Theoretical godly rare

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Theoretical godly rare

Okay, after looking at the Arreat Summit's magic affixes pages, it occurs to me that it might be possible to have a rare weapon generate with some insane mods. I understand rares can have up to 3 prefixes and 3 suffixes? If so, check out this possibility on a weapon:

Prefixes: Cruel, Master's, and Grinding
Suffixes: Quickness, Slaughter, and Transcendence

You'd need an ilvl 76 or higher weapon, but the theoretical maximum total would be:
450% Enhanced Damage
+20 to Min Damage
+20 to Max Damage
+.75/clvl to Max Damage (.75-74.25)
+250 to AR

:surprise:

Or Grinding (+.75/clvl to Max Damage) could be replaced with Elysian (+300 AR and +200% ED vs. Demons) or Hallowed (325 AR and +275% ED vs. Undead).

Not bad for a weapon usable at clvl 57, eh?
 
If you have the WF with you then maybe in a million years you could land such a rare. But if you do what on earth would you do with it. The sad part is if you ever found such a rare it would be on a normal dagger you know the ones with 1-3 normal damage before mods.

What build would you use it on?
 
Me, I'd rather have Cruel, Grandmaster's, Fool's of Quickness, Slaughter, Transcendence. If perfect, it'd be...

450% ED
300 AR
20 min dam
20 max dam
40% IAS
16.5 AR/clvl
.5 max dam/clvl

Imagine that on an ethereal Dimensional Blade. Upgrading it makes it indestructable, and socket it with a 40/15 (Hey, as long as we're dreaming, right?)

Damage would then be 294-330, +.5 max damage/clvl. Is that sick or is that sick?

Edit: At lvl 57, you'd have 326 average damage. :surprise: Can you imagine that on an Avenger? Sheesh... That'd put even a crafted 510 ED blood 'zerker to shame...
 
Uzziah said:
If you have the WF with you then maybe in a million years you could land such a rare. But if you do what on earth would you do with it. The sad part is if you ever found such a rare it would be on a normal dagger you know the ones with 1-3 normal damage before mods.

What build would you use it on?
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Although you could upgrade the dagger to a bone knife for a small damage boost?
 
Can someone calculate the odds of finding such a gem of an item? Do you think you'd find a zod before you found that rare?
 
The specific weapon I mentioned? You're liable to sprout wings and fly before you ever find one of those. I mean, honestly. The odds of an eth dimensional blade are low enough. Never mind that specific combination of (perfect!) mods. You know how they tell you never to expect to get high-end runes? Really, we shouldn't even be thinking about these weapons.

I do believe there are Cruel Grandmaster's weapons floating around on Bnet, though. Maybe even with other useful affixes like leech and stuff. <shrugs>
 
I dunno why people always say it's grandmasters, but it's really master's that can spawn on rare. grandmasters give +251-300 to Attack Rating, Damage: +151-200% and can spawn on blue item only, it's the masters +151-250 to Attack Rating, Damage: +101-150% and is the highest can spawn on rare.

Also you can't have two +damage only mod on the same weapon (i.e. cruel and grinding), same goes for +damage/ar mod (i.e. masters and fool's).
 
masters + fool's can't spawn together

your best bet would be
minion slayer
weapon
preffixes
cruel : 300% ED
master : 150% ED, 250 AR(or fools: 0.5 PCL Max Dmg, 16.5 PCL To AR)
artisan: 2 sockets
suffixes
of Slaughter: 20 max dmg (edit: I'd rather place " of amplify damage" here)
of Quickness: 40% IAS
[insert your desired suffix here] = of restoration if ethereal
 
tl998 said:
Can someone calculate the odds of finding such a gem of an item? Do you think you'd find a zod before you found that rare?
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You could probably CUBE a zod from el's before you found it.
 
I found a calculator and it ends with something like 284-321 just for the 450% ED, you can add a lot more damage from the sockets/20 max damage mod
 
tl998 said:
cruel : 300% ED
master : 150% ED, 250 AR(or fools: 0.5 PCL Max Dmg, 16.5 PCL To AR)
artisan: 2 sockets
suffixes
of Slaughter: +20 Max
of Transcendence +20 Min
of Quickness: 40% IAS

Someone crunch that and see how much damage that would od in an upgraded eth Deminenal blade? ;)
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Can't guarantee perfection, but...

Phase Blade: 31-35
Ethereal (Base * 1.5): 46-52
Cruel, Masters, 2 40%/15IAS jewels (Ethereal * 6.3): 289-327
+20 on both ends: 309-347

End result:
Min Damage: 309
Max Damage: 347
Increased AS: +70%

:drool:
 
Ethereal rare War Pike

Preffixes

Cruel +201-300% Damage Weapons
Master's +151-250 to Attack Rating, Damage: +101-150%
Mechanic's Add 1-2 Sockets (I want 2 Sockets for Shael + Shael)

Suffixes

Quickness 40% Attack Speed Increase
Vampire 7-9% Mana Stolen Per Hit
Lamprey 7-9% Life Stolen Per Hit
OR
Slaughter +15-20 to Maximum Damage

OR

Ethereal Ghost Spear or Great Poleaxe Or Giant Thresher

Cruel +201-300% Damage Weapons
Master's +151-250 to Attack Rating, Damage: +101-150%
Fool's + (16.5 Per Character Level) 16.5-1633.5 To Attack Rating / + (0.5 Per Character Level) 0.5-49.5 To Maximum Damage (Based On Character Level)

Suffixes

Quickness 40% Attack Speed Increase
Vampire 7-9% Mana Stolen Per Hit
Lamprey 7-9% Life Stolen Per Hit
OR
Slaughter +15-20 to Maximum Damage

Then use the socket quest and put a shael in the Ghost Spear/Great Poleaxe or a 15 IAS + ED% in the Giant Thresher to get the last WW Breakpoint

My WW barb dream all days with one of this weapons :D
 
Lucky_Seven said:
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My WW barb dream all days with one of this weapons :D
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your barb dreams something impossible....
the war pike will break in a few hits (ethereal, no self-repairing/zod)

the great poleaxe/ghost spear/giant thresher simply dont exist (masters + fools)
and they will break in a few whirls anyway....
check a few post avobe for the max possible damage

IMO you are wasting leech for suffixes
 
I think the highest %ED I've seen on a rare was 309%--I dread to think just how rare (if you'll pardon the pun) a 450% weapon would be. To get all those other godly mods as well...
 
its not impossible, like a week ago i was on my hardcore javazon killing some pindle, shenk and eldritch, and i found a thresher with either 20 or 30 ias, and like 268% ed, and a rare longsword with 380% ed, +17 max dmg and 40 ias, i shat myself and then stopped mfing, in fear of the D2 gods getting retribution for their kindness with the death of my zon.
 
I have several "cruel of quickness" rares, about 8 or so. I have some in a few weapon types, like axes, swords, polearms/ spears, and throwing weapons. I got most (if not all) of them during my 1.10s beta MF runs.
 
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