The Official Ex-RuST SCL "Journey to Hell" Group Thread

I am very much in agreement about the Javazon, the Trapsin, and, to a lesser extent, the wind druid. However, I am very attached to the singer barb idea, and I don't want to give it up. I think he will be a good tank on his own. Lots of vitality, shout, bo, and decent armour would do fine. And, assuming i get my 2 Spirit crystal swords (I think it will probably happen), thats even more vit, no shield means even MORE vit, and HUGE fhr. Plus warcry stuns for around 4.8 seconds at lvl20 in a radius. I don't think tanking will be a problem at all.

If we also have a cleric..... no problems whatsoever.

On a side note :
- freezing arrow gives the same freeze length at lvl1 so need not be maxed
- the experience penalties don't kick in until you are 5 levels off the monster in any direction
 
Allo all! Sorry for ignoring the post. Since Sokar wants to be a Necro, I'll be the sage (my name for the cleric, lol). Any suggestions on what offensive skill I should have or should it be pure defense? Also, I think a party of 8 should have 2 tanks, no? Lemmee know...
 
Sokar: Heya, glad to see you. Some good points there. Random, non-ordered responses:

--No one had suggested playing a cold sorc, so I think we're okay there. I think someone else mentioned it would be boring if a cold sorc did all the killing. The only sorc committed to so far is my enchantress.

--AlphaOmega4 had requested the javazon, but we haven't heard confirmation back from him that he can play at the same time as everyone else, so we'll see.

--tlaloc24 had agreed to the wind druid on Be-Were's suggestion, which left Be-Were with the trapasin (also his suggestion) as last available character. If tlaloc, Be-Were, and the rest of the group think wind druid + trapasin would be too powerful, tlaloc could go back to his initially proposed dragon talon assassin, and Be-Were could play an avenger. Again, though, no word back yet from Be-Were. To a certain extent, player preference should be paramount.

--If we do lose AlphaOmega4 over scheduling issues, I'm sure Cheetah would play a zon (not sure what build) and Sokar could play the necro.

--Our preferred time (10 to midnight PST) would be 1700-1900 AEST, Sokar. Does that fit?

freakin: Hey! Thanks for checking in. Sage (or cleric) it is for you, then. There were a few good cleric guides in the Paladin forum in July/August, so you might run a search for them for offensive suggestions. I've never tried the build, so I'm no good to ask.
EDIT: I found that cleric guide (The MadOnion's Cleric). Pretty cool build!

All: Okay, I'll e-mail AlphaOmega4 to see if the times are going to work for him. I'll e-mail Be-Were and Cheetah to sort out their builds. Also, tlaloc, Be-Were, and Cheetah should let us know if any of the above 3-4 post discussion impacts their choice of builds. Coming together...
 
Details for a cleric are different than the medic I've made twice (once to L42 in LS1 and to L93 in NL). Pure medics used to be max prayer/cleansing/meditation/sanctuary/holy bolt while pure clerics max prayer/holy bolt/blessed hammer/fist of the heavens/holy shock (L96 complete). Obviously, the point being to max the effect of holy bolt and fist of the heavens while depending on others to use conviction (mercs can now do that with the right runes) and other auras, but medics are purely defensive - usually supporting a summoner as I did since they're hard to level alone.

Now, is this starting tonight or are we waiting until Friday? I think the hardest thing for me is deciding a name as many names have been taken and the filter prevents using certain words. I hate just throwing random names on characters, I want it to fit and be worth personization quests.
 
Ax: Definitely not starting tonight. We could start tomorrow night (Thursday) if we sort out members and characters and everyone is available. We could certainly start Friday night. I saw that alphaomega4 was online and reading the thread but hasn't posted or e-mailed back, so I don't know if he's in or out. :( Also no confirmation of builds from Cheetah or Be-Were yet. I'm working on it...
 
wathombe said:
--tlaloc24 had agreed to the wind druid on Be-Were's suggestion, which left Be-Were with the trapasin (also his suggestion) as last available character. If tlaloc, Be-Were, and the rest of the group think wind druid + trapasin would be too powerful, tlaloc could go back to his initially proposed dragon talon assassin, and Be-Were could play an avenger. Again, though, no word back yet from Be-Were. To a certain extent, player preference should be paramount.

All: Okay, I'll e-mail AlphaOmega4 to see if the times are going to work for him. I'll e-mail Be-Were and Cheetah to sort out their builds. Also, tlaloc, Be-Were, and Cheetah should let us know if any of the above 3-4 post discussion impacts their choice of builds. Coming together...
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Hmmm... I understand what Sokar is saying. The bottom line is, I will do what the team asks of me. I can play a martial arts (dragon talon) assassin, no problem, or I could revert to the druid idea (shockbear or otherwise, just not windy). I have been in games where one character does all the killing and you know what? It is boring.

So I'll roll with what the team decides, I can do either or. I'll throw the windy out the window. ( :lol: I really wish that I hadn't researched cool sounding wind names :lol: )
 
Ok, there has been many replies, it took me a long time to catch up (lots of in-depth build info, had to read it carefully).......

the time will be fine for me except tomorrow night (thursday) which is fine with me if i miss the start, just tell me what lvl you reached and how far you got and i will catch up on friday evening b4 we start

i was kinda looking forward to playing the javazon, main reason for this: i have STARTED no less than 5 javazons but the highest level ever achieved was 22, i could do this other build but i wouldnt gaurantee that i would be very good with her for a long while (hopefully not after we finish) if others wish me not to play the javazon, just give me any other type of build, a zealot would be good with me, providing another melee/tank (and could take over one or two of the resistance auras which would take some of the pressure from the other paly, i would say concentration would be the party friendly aura to go with most of the time (+500%dmg is a lot) but if the only other melee besides the zealot would be the necros skeles then maybe fanta would work better

give me feedback


edit: wathombe, thanks for trying to get ahold of me through email and not forgetting me, i was busy last night with computer problems (stupid company sent worthless motherboard instead of good one)
 
tlaloc and Alpha: Thanks for weighing in. Alpha, if your heart's in a javazon, that's what you should stick with. If it's a new build for you, maybe you won't be instant killing everything on the screen like certain other professional javazons I could name (*cough* Guijan *cough*). tlaloc, if you go with an MA assassin, that's another melee character, so that's good (and I know you like them). I think the shock bear might be too close to Ax's summoning druid (I could be wrong, though).

Of course, now we have nine players. Sokar, let us know if 1700-1900 AEST will work for you. Ax and Be-Were, let us know if playing on the nearest Asia server would be feasible for you.

Roster looks like this:
  • wathombe: bow enchantress
  • alphaomega4: javazon
  • dnmorton: singer barb
  • freakinrican: cleric
  • tlaloc24: MA assassin (maybe)
  • Ax2Grind: summoning druid (Asia server possible?)
  • Cheetah: necro or 2nd of some class
  • Be-Were: necro or 2nd of some class (Asia server possible?)
  • Sokar: necro (time work for you?)

First game: It looks like our first game can be Friday night, 10 PM PST (1 AM Saturday morning EST, 1700 Saturday AEST). Let's try to confirm everybody's build, pick a server, and sort out who's playing before then. I'm headed home, will try to check in later. Thanks, everybody.

EDIT: alpha: No problem, was glad I had your e-mail. I just realized, your in EST, too, right? Is an Asia server feasible for you? Let us know.

Later, all. Hope I'm not being too crazy-making trying to organize this. It should be a lot of fun.
 
multiple comments...

I can play whatever build/char party wants, i got some really oddball ones that work well for parties that not many ppl have even heard of :-)

I think us 8 ppl should just share 1 big accnt on whatever realm, that way its easy to check everyones lvl and catch up if need be

The point of getting certain powerful characters is that think about hell ancients in an 8 person game... I have a lvl 80 necro and 88 sorc that have AMAZING gear and builds for massive dmg, and it still takes me like 4-5 min to kill them, in 2-3 person game, imagine in an 8 person game with all the players only at mid lvl dmg... Then again this idea is more aimed at hardcore than softcore because dying wouldn;t have to be avoided on softcore... Again another point in 8 ppl games its not very feasable without certain ringers to do certain areas imo
As a statistical point, if we all are hybrid/pure party builds our average dmg will be in the 2000-2500 range (~1000 to 1500 of which is fire from enchant) and after you facter in hell resistances then an avenger pally thats about on average -50% all resists from enemies, (looks promising) then you factor in the 8 person +(100*players))% life so on average a fallen in hell has roughly 4000*8=32000 hp, it gets alot harder when you think the average person is doing about 4000 dmg, so it would take the whole team 1 stike each to kill 1 fallen in hell 8 player game.... not to promising

another note, out of the builds i proposed the weakest is the barbarian, and he would (with beserk at lvl 1 be doing about 4k pure magic or concentrate at 20 5k physical dmg, then add the chant, and anyother dmg buffs from party/merc etc) my propositions werent aimed at superpowering 1 char, it was aimed at powering all chars with abilities that help the rest of the party...

This post isnt trying to be angry or argumentative, its just 4-5 years of experience trying to make this as feasable for us as possible :-)

Btw Wathombe, you can count on finding any exceptional uniques, im sure we will want to do a little mfing on the side at the start of each day, just so were not in hell with cracked sashes and superior short swords :-)

im sure i have more comments just not thinking of them at the moment...
 
Yep, I thought today was Thursday. Sometimes you lose track of days when you're unemployed. If you can get eight without me then let someone else on west play. I don't want to take anyone's spot.
 
I'm gonna go with the pure medic build. I'mma wing it, and if I can do a good enough job with it, maybe even write a guide on it (yeah, right). Also, I want to practice this char enough so that I'll be a wanted char in Guild Wars. Friday sounds good to me, Saturday is a lil' iffy, but I'll let ya know ahead of time.
 
wow big plans! it sounds like fun. since i haven't played d2 in a while, i wanna join this. (have a reason for me to keep playing) since it will start friday, it's great because all of my classes will not have any work to be done over the 2 week break. but besides that, i will most likely be able to play any time on the weekend and maybe weekdays from 5-whatever PST. just give me a message on aim (AVXecution) and come get me! i see that there are 8 players signed up but ill stop by to see what's up first

Edit: i will be willing to play any build for any character that's available, and not used by another player. i like keeping it old school and be able to kill so i might choose orb+something if sorc, maybe frenzy/berserk barb, bone necro, werewolf druid, javelin amazon, trap assassin, or a hammer pally
 
Alright, Wathombe, you'll need west account names, a private channel for this (your best bet is to create an entirely new account with a name that's good for a channel), times for two groups (5-9PST and 9-1PST, -5 for AEST and +3 for EST) and keep track of the builds to divide equal abilities and desired future gear between each so they both have a chance of getting to A5H as easily and soon as possible.

Keep in mind if only nine or ten people join I'll bow out and wait for one to form on east, but I'm still in it if we get 12-16 consistant players.

USWest Ladder Season Two: *Ax2Grind
USEast Ladder Season Two: *New2TheGame0-9 (mainly 4)
USEast Non-ladder: *Ax2Grind
Y!M/Yahoo Email: ax2gr1nd/yahoo.com (using the '/' instead of '@' for obvious reasons)

Currently can play any time as long as I'm awake and unemployed.

Side note: anyone use ASE (All-Seeing eye game browser)? Yahoo just got involved with that, which means ICQ integration was lost and - quite possibly - Y!M integration is on the way. It'd be nice if every time I launched Diablo2 people would know I'm playing, even if it doesn't offer literal support for it.
 
Cherokee said:
I'm very very interested, but the time frame doesn't work for me at all. I'm only available consistently between 9pm and 11pm eastern. Maybe I need to try to organize a second group on USEast?

I'd be interested in doing an Avenger, Enchantress, Meteorb, Blizz, or Light sorc. I'd love to play with this group, but there's just no way I can be up after midnight more than once a week.
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Cher0kee: 9-11 eastern is great for me. Put me down for Necro(probably a general build unless we need a specific like 'curser', 'boner', 'summoner'.)
 
I think we stand a fair chance of putting together 6-8 consistent players on east, but I'm not able to start until the week after Christmas (leaving tomorrow for vacation). Ax2Grind, wanna try to gather a few more players from the RUST thread or others you've played with before? I can probably get 1-2 others interested. Sounds like we have 3 so far (Ax, Ck, Rem).

A lot of the other ideas floated in here make sense to me... I'd be happy to play a Tri-Elementalist or Enchantress.
 
Wow! Embarrassment of riches! We now have a potential ten players for the 10 to midnight PST slot and at least three, if not five, for the 9 PM to 11 PM EST slot.

Andy: You do realize that we will be playing softcore, correct? Are you okay with that?

Sokar: When you get up, let us know if Tuesday through Friday, 1700-1900 AEST will work for you.

Ax, Be-Were, and AO4: I think all three of you live in EST (or at least further east than PST). Including Sokar, Andy, and the three of you, we now have ten people interested in the 10 to midnight PST (1 AM to 3 AM EST) time slot. If Sokar joins, we will probably be using an Asia server. As long as ping is not a problem, geography is not really an issue, so if this is still the best timeslot for the three of you, we'll work it out. However, it looks like there will be a group on East playing at 9 PM to 11 PM EST. Let us know which time slot is going to work better for the three of you.

West or Asia roster: Here's the current pool of potential West or Asia players (10 to midnight PST) with builds:
  • wathombe: bow enchantress
  • alphaomega4: javazon
  • dnmorton: singer barb
  • freakinrican: medic
  • tlaloc24: MA assassin (maybe)
  • Ax2Grind: summoning druid
  • Cheetah: anything but druid or assassin
  • Be-Were: anything
  • Sokar: necro

East roster: Here's the current East players (9 PM to 11 PM EST) confirmed as interested:
  • Cherokee: enchantress or tri-elementalist
  • Remlin: necro
  • Ax2Grind: ????
Keep in mind that Be-Were and AO4 may prefer this timeslot and/or play both.

We are only four players short of having two full groups. Not bad!

Be-Were, part 2: All duly noted. If we find ourselves underpowered, it'll just be more of a challenge. ;) I don't know if jeyeltee's group this summer played all the way through hell. They certainly sailed through norm and nightmare, though. I think they had a trapasin, a fanatazealot, a summoner, a frenzy barb, and I'm not sure what else.

All: I've got a webpage roughed out, but I want to wait until we have the groups and builds confirmed before posting it. Stay tuned...
 
I definately want to play with all you westies : )
The time will not be a problem at all for me as long as i dont get up at like 6:00 one morning and try to go all the way until 3:00 the next morning (may need to start drinking coffee) but why in the hell would i get up at 6:00?

I also wouldnt mind playing in the East JtH also:
1. as long as i am not going to take another persons slot,
2. it starts the week after christmas (i will want to focus on my west one, 7 hours of d2 a day is kinda much (well, no its not :xsmile4: ))
3. you want me to
 
We definitely want you AO4 -- You aren't taking anyone else's slot (I think we'll only have 6-8 total), and it will definitely start a couple of days after Christmas. I'm travelling home on the 26th, so any day after that works for me. You guys tell me what day you like best, Dec 27 or later.

On a side note, if we only get 4 or 5, then we may want to alter the classes slightly.... go with the higher power builds instead of worrying about being so well balanced. Just a thought.
 
yea i understand that its sc. (would really suck if we were hc if 1 person would die along the way) i'm willing to play on any realm. ive played before on asia server and i play fine. works well too because a majority of those channels are completely empty so we cant trade even if we're tempted to. but yeah, any realm is fine

Edit: also, we should all make characters with the RuST tag in it. maybe RuST_namehere etc. and i got a question. we can only play as a group? meaning only have 5 or more ppl playing at one time? or can we play solo, not questing, but just mfing.
 
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