Switching to HC Ladder till ladder reset

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I seriously doubt it's the loot they're after. They are armed with top-notch lld stuff as it is (at least the more professional ones are). It's more the thrill of the chase and the kill, as I see it - and of course the risk of actually loosing a char (after all being level 14 and hostiling several other level 14s involves a risk regardless of equipment).
There is also a breed of PKPKs, who chase the PKs :scratchchin:. Or play helpless victims only to manifest a higher justice upon the poor PK upon their encounter.
All is good fun and true to the HC universe. The sad thing is TPPKs and chicken hacks, but hopefully a 1.13 patch will fix those.

TJ,

I think I witnessed that last night. I was in a game I created, random key stroke game, in the sewers in act 2. Someone joins the game, then another person about 20 secs after, the first person who joined the game hostiled me as soon as he entered the game. Second person types "You die?", I respond "nope". Him and the first guy exchange pleasant comments :whistling: and the second guy tells me to stay where I'm at if I want to live...then a few seconds later I see the slain message, well I create a TP and go to town. I look at the player screen and see the second person who then types "gottem lol", "dude tried to pk me earlier".

He was a lvl 30 sorc, not sure what the first guy was. I asked him what all that was about, and he just typed "never try to PK me". I said no prob and didn't plan on it, just wanted to see how far I lvl before ladder reset. He types, "the little kitty's body is in the moor if you want any of it" and leaves the game. ("kitty" was not used to described the fallen - let's just say its similar to wussy).

The only thing worth looting from the dead guy was a socketed helm with two perf skulls in it - I can use it for my Trapsin.

Anyhow, nothing too exciting last night overall. :newhere:

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I'm sad to report my level 76 necro fell prey to the most dangerous monster on Battlenet... LAG.

I have only myself to blame.

I have played through the lag in the past with this character and thought nothing of doing it again. Then I started to think it was taking a little longer, than usual, so I exited. Sadly, when I got to my character screen, there was that hideous cloaked figure masquerading as my necro.

Oh well. Honestly I was kinda of getting bored of him any way. Time to start again.
 
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I really don't like hardcore. It's all private games. Hope 1.13 has a PvP checkbox or something, then I might play HC again with more public games.
 
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I've decided to join in on this as well whilst waiting for the ladder reset. I made my first ever HC character 2 days ago, Assassin (Traps), I've yet to play a public game yet, I'm just playing solo at the moment. Just got to lvl 14, and going for Act 1 Quest 5 (Smith).. I have a terrible feeling I'll end up getting brutally murdered by Andariel though... note to self.. Poisen Resists are a must... :D
 
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i've been playing HC a lot recently. i'd started my character as a challenge to my friend who has given up D2 mainly because "you cant play in hell without godly gear." i have played HC many times on SP and one a few seasons back when it got really boring on L so ive had some decent experiences, but the sin i'm currently making is the one i've gotten the furthest with as yet. she's just starting act 5 NM and is level 53 (i think). she's plowing through pretty well. reguardless of reset, i'm going to continue with her till the end. i'm just now trying to complete a few ladder only r/w before reset.


that is freaking outstanding! where did that pic come from?



 
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Hi guys!

I once wrote a guide for a first character for HC, it is pretty fun and safe! http://www.purediablo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=629402 Basically it's an ultra safe necro capable of doing everything on its own.

I have never died with such character, even though I haven't been so lucky with other HC characters :) I ended up deleting my lvl 88 necro because it got so lonely.

Couple of my more party oriented characters were killed off by TPPK even with nice gear in their 70s. So don't ever play in a party you don't know. Ever. Never ever. In europe realm at least there is nobody playing in open games unless they are trying to kill you. I know some PK-clans are moving to US realms because they've run out of victims in Europe. They have the most ridiculous hacks and you can't prevent them killing you even if you're cautious.

But yeah, HC is the thing, if only there wasn't TPPK and hacks..
 
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Hi guys!

I once wrote a guide for a first character for HC, it is pretty fun and safe! http://www.purediablo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=629402 Basically it's an ultra safe necro capable of doing everything on its own.

I have never died with such character, even though I haven't been so lucky with other HC characters :) I ended up deleting my lvl 88 necro because it got so lonely.

Couple of my more party oriented characters were killed off by TPPK even with nice gear in their 70s. So don't ever play in a party you don't know. Ever. Never ever. In europe realm at least there is nobody playing in open games unless they are trying to kill you. I know some PK-clans are moving to US realms because they've run out of victims in Europe. They have the most ridiculous hacks and you can't prevent them killing you even if you're cautious.

But yeah, HC is the thing, if only there wasn't TPPK and hacks..

I just lost my sorc lvl 74 3 days ago, frozen orb/energy shield with very great stuff by a %$/%/%/ TPPKER (fireball sorc). Rushed me a1-a3 in hell and when we were fighting our way in chaos sanc, he shot a couple of fireballs towards me and instantly after that I was dead. I was alone in the game with him so I lost all my best gear (shako, spirit weapon, viper, tgodz, lidless, a great eth fortitude for my merc, sigh) and was so pissed off that I uninstalled the game. Will probably never play d2 again unless blizzard comes up with something in 1.13 to counter those a//"holes. The lesson is to never trust anyone in HC, anyone.


 
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I was alone in the game with him so I lost all my best gear (shako, spirit weapon, viper, tgodz, lidless, a great eth fortitude for my merc, sigh) and was so pissed off that I uninstalled the game. Will probably never play d2 again unless blizzard comes up with something in 1.13 to counter those a//"holes. The lesson is to never trust anyone in HC, anyone.

Ok.. A little too serious for my gaming pleasure. Tough loss though, my Assasin is now lvl 20 and creeping through the game.

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2nd sorc I lost since I restarted to play. First time, I died stupidly while telebaaling in nm with crappy gear in a group of witches/minotaurs (OUCH) so I can accept my own failure. But now, after several hours of gameplay to boost this char, I get instantly killed by someone I HAD to trust because I have no friends in this game to rush me in such difficult areas. I just hope, for the sake of the hardcore, that Blizzard will put next season a flagging-combat system. If you want to pvp, you have to flag yourself before engaging combat, same thing for your opponent.
 
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I ve started a summoner necro now lvl 43 ( hurray for chanted skellies). Ive beaten normal mode and now i see that nm hc is pretty dead, with 2 or 3 games in the list, i feel chant games are a thing of the past.

Id like to get a few more names on my friend list so i wont have to lvl in solo games in nm. Im all for helping other since theres still plenty of awesome gear that can drop in norm, like a leet wormskull or a 4os sword /polearm. im pretty much running around naked right now. hehe

im looking foward to meet you guys online.

*jetcore
 
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I ve started a summoner necro now lvl 43 ( hurray for chanted skellies). Ive beaten normal mode and now i see that nm hc is pretty dead, with 2 or 3 games in the list, i feel chant games are a thing of the past.

Id like to get a few more names on my friend list so i wont have to lvl in solo games in nm. Im all for helping other since theres still plenty of awesome gear that can drop in norm, like a leet wormskull or a 4os sword /polearm. im pretty much running around naked right now. hehe

im looking foward to meet you guys online.

*jetcore

FYI - I've played with this guy a few times. He's a good guy. I got him on my /f L.

I'll be on sometime today, not sure when. I have a couple of errands and such I have to do first. I'd like to level my Assasin up faster, but playing HC, you have to be very patient :whistling:.

Also, yesterday I was in the Spider Cavern and was ambushed by a very potent poison Spider. I thought I was a goner, I literally did not have any life left and somehow managed to esc from the game. That was as close to dying with my assasin ever while playing HC.

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A WoW friend turned me back on to Diablo after many many years... (look at my join date) Before I stopped playing (for FFXI iirc) I had levelled a blizz/meteor sorc to 99. Who knows what patch that was. Anyway, I'm up for the challenge of HC. With a new patch on the horizon, playing SC just doesn't seem all that interesting. I'm going to start working on a bone necro and maybe I'll hook up with some of you sometime.
 
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Well... I've just logged off for the night, My Assa is Lvl 18 now, and I'm on Act 2 Quest 2 going for the cube. I logged off after I almost fell prey to the dreaded lag beast in the Dry Hills...

"I'll just get this WP and then quit for the night...." :D
 
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You don't HAVE to trust to anyone. You don't rush in HC. You play (mostly) solo. You don't go to levels you can't manage yourself. Everyone wanting to rush you wants to teach you this lesson - by killing the "noobs" "needing" rush. BTW, there are more RIP's in NM than in Hell. The usual reason is because a sorc tries to tele with crap equipment and dies. If you want to live, walk those baalruns in a party you have 100% trust in :)

That is why the builds are very different from SC. Much safer, more capable of taking care of themselves alone. People concentrate on the vitality, but at the same there are no melee characters (iron maiden, generally riskier) and most builds use max block (though some go pure vita). I really like my HC build (I posted a link to it in a previous post) in terms that it's so independent and safe. As I said, I have never died with one.

But yeah, the player base is diminishing in HC, leaving only hackers to realms (especially in late ladder) so it's very lonely and not so fun after a while. I really hope 1.13 makes HC playable again (PK timer, checkbox and iron maiden fix).
 
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That is why the builds are very different from SC. Much safer, more capable of taking care of themselves alone. People concentrate on the vitality, but at the same there are no melee characters (iron maiden, generally riskier) and most builds use max block (though some go pure vita). I really like my HC build (I posted a link to it in a previous post) in terms that it's so independent and safe. As I said, I have never died with one.

Good point mouse - Things I've learned so far playing HC (I'm only Lv21 and still have so much to learn):

1. Never trust another player in the same game.
2. You can never have enough pots.
3. Charsi's Imbue quest does come in handy.
4. Good defense comes in handy.
5. Resists come in handy.
6. Act 1 bow merc - Equip her and use her.
7. Running wildly through places you thought were safe after you thought you had killed everything - not a good idea.

I'm sure there's more. I consider myself a HC newb, so help me out if you'd like.

:coffee:

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I'm sure there's more. I consider myself a HC newb, so help me out if you'd like.

Well, the basics are in no particular order:

1) Don't trust anyone, never play in games where there are high level characters. Some of them help, but usually they rush you a couple of acts to gain your trust and then kill you off. So play only with people around your level. If you want to be completely safe, play only with people you know. Try to chat with your team - PK's usually don't chit chat.

2) Avoid public runs (especially baalruns). Most of them have PK'ers running them / joining to games. They may do a couple of runs to gain your trust and then kill you off. Try to make private runs with friends you've gain from questing together or simply do them alone.

3) You can't be too suspicious. If you have any doubt, leave the game immediatly. The hacks are very powerful (basically they click your name and the script autotargets you and you're dead within a second), they can kill you in an instant (less than second to couple seconds depending on the hack). Your stats/gear/resists won't matter. (got PK'ed with my lvl 75 pure vita sorc who had max resists - it was a cold sorc with max cold mastery and ice blast = insane damage countering all resists). Also immediately leave game ALWAYS if you encounter ANY lag. It doesn't matter if you lose your quest - it's better than losing your character. If you encounter some boss pack you can't deal with, leave the game if you can't safely pass them by. Don't noob-die in the maggot lair, just leave the game and join again.

3.5) And really, watch out the PK'ers. If you give them a chance, they will kill you without any regret. There will be a giant ASCII middle finger on your screen while you are trying to figure out what just happened. They will enjoy your misery. The more you whine, the more they laugh. You will be left with a profound sense of humiliation. It is very hurtful. This is precisely why they do it. Don't give 'em a chance. It doesn't matter who you are, how fair you are to other players - they will kill you and kill you again if they can. You are not special, you are just one of the hundreds they've killed. In their eyes you deserved it, because you were stupid enough to let it happen.

4) Always have rejuv potions available. If you don't, cube them or collect them in easier areas.

5) Always max your resists. Every point of life you get is a point further away from death. So go heavy on life and resists, priorize them above damage always. After the first acts, your lightning resist shouldn't ever be below 60%. Ancient's pledge runeword is cheap and will give you plenty of resists.

6) Never tele with your sorc if you don't have very powerful gear and fast max block. The ultimate noob thing to do is to try and tele with crappy equipment in nm and die. Lots and lots of sorcs have died this way. The boss packs will kill you.

7) If you go melee (which nobody does) don't attack anything in areas where you can be cast by iron maiden (especially chaos santuary).

8) Don't advance ahead of your level. If your not comfortable in one area, repeat one before it. Good rule of thumb is to run baal in normal until you are level 45+ and run baal in nm until you are lvl 75+. You can go earlier (42/72) if you have good enough gear. However, don't go at all if you don't have decent gear - run bosses in private games until you are equipped and leveled for the next difficulty.

9) Always go to town if you need to answer the phone/scratch yourself/talk to somebody/whatever. Basically, never take your hands off of your keyboard and mouse when you play. Don't play too tired or too drunk :) (this is optional :))

10) Always drink a potion even if you have lost 5% of life. Always try to have 100% life - don't save potions, use them. Use rejuv if you're below 75% / 50%.

11) Be very, very careful about fire explosive bosses in nm. They aren't properly nerfed. Lots and lots of people die in nm ancients because of the fire explosion upon death. So always check bosses in case if they have fire explosion. If they do, try to leave them alone. If you can't, really be far away from them when they die.

12) Don't use builds who rely on other players. You can't say that "you needed rush / help" whatever and because of that you got killed when you trusted someone. Well, you can say whatever you want, but you're still dead.That's just what you get if you don't make a character capable of soloing the game. And starting over won't change the fact that you're going to get yourself killed again if you make a SC build in HC. It's not a bad idea to make nm andy/meph runner who won't ever enter to Hell difficulty. The first HC char could just get you wealth for the second character, who will be powerful enough to solo Hell.

13) Don't take portals you don't know are safe. Lots and lots of people die in cow levels because of deliberately unsafe portals. People do this, it's the easiest way of killing a character - just leave unsafe portal in cow level / rush area and wait for people to come. They will even have other players in a different part of the area who will tell you the portal is safe. Basically always to try enter an area through WP (though sometimes they have also been trapped) when first entering a game. Wait for someone to take a TP first.

14) Don't EVER do Nithlalak quest. His corpse explosion will kill you and there are some very deadly vipers in the area with bugged poison clouds. Only dedicated nithla runners kill him in HC. Keys found from him are pricey. Typing "wanna do the nithla quest" in HC equals to "I'm a complete noob, please trap a tp for me or kill me otherwise, I don't know how to take care of myself" :)

Have fun ;) Someone once said: "the more it hurts to die, the more you want to stay alive. That's the reason to be hardcore". :) And don't take it too seriously, sometimes you die even after all the precautions. It's just part of the experience :) I enjoy HC because I know it's all me - I have to be independent. If you don't have the patience / you like to rely on other people rushing you, I suggest SC :)
 
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