Roles of Madness. Mafia Thread

[Kestegs]

Re: Roles of Madness. Mafia Thread

With all sincerity I say I’m not cold blooded, but Kestegs would you want to lynch a new guy if you thought he was a mafia?

Yes, I would want to lynch a new guy if I really thought he was mafia. I sympathize with new players though, as I was the victim of a D1 lynch in my first game (I was town).

 

[Noodle]

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OT: My iPod just broke. You would not be able to credit just how pissed off I am about this. Prison-time pissed-off begins to approach it. Laters. :rant:

On a scale of 0 to Mel Gibson, would you say you're approaching Chris Brown?

I agree with you about the day one lynch / no lynch talk. It's well established here that lynching each day is necessary for the town to move forward, even if a townie turns out to be the unfortunate target. Suggesting otherwise or questioning this seems suspicious to me.

 

[Goryani]

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@Gory / Gwaihir: Why do you think that dreams effect both day and night? Are you interpreting RE differently to me?

I think the Dreaming God has dreams which affect days and also has dreams which affect nights. Therefore, I think the Dreaming God can affect both days and nights. Do you think otherwise?

Prostate joke?!?!? Now that's below the belt

Depends how big it is.

What effect do you think it will have??

I think the dream as hinted by the D1 story didn't whiff. I think it will affect actions tonight.

Fine.

Let's put that discussion to rest. It doesn't help us catching scum

:banghead:

I agree with you about the day one lynch / no lynch talk. It's well established here that lynching each day is necessary for the town to move forward, even if a townie turns out to be the unfortunate target. Suggesting otherwise or questioning this seems suspicious to me.

How come you never vote on D1 then?

Unvote: Jcakes
Vote: Noodle

 

[korialstraz]

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Why are you certain that Skjolde thought that a defense was a) needed and b) in the town's best interests?

Those are your words, not mine. Also way to way to go taking my quote out of context. Anyway I will answer your question, since the two previous answers apparently weren't enough.

Because in my eyes it wasn't a defence. If this had been my first game, and I knew a player wasn't online through other means, I would've posted it had people started questioning that player. In fact I might still have, just because in that regard I have a hard time learning my lesson. And the reason for that is I feel it very unfair for a player to be targeted over a silly reason. Even more so if said player had already stated he/she would be offline.

This isn't even a speculation of game strategy to me, and I can feel almost becoming upset about it, although I try to not let it show too much.

I'm not certain he thought a defence was needed nor if it was in the towns best interest or not. He merely posted facts, facts he gained by having me on his friends list in 3 different places outside this forum to check my online status with.


Time to re-read the thread again.

 

[Valhauros]

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Hey, I'm alive, pretty cool, huh?

So, fundamentally, I'd say the spammers are 500% more likely to be mafia; we should start with them because everyone knows scum always benefit from hiding information with oceans of spam and confusion. Therefore, I'll be always willing to vote for any of these on principle: Skjolde, Kestegs, Jcakes and Autti. On the other hand, I won't vote for Glib unless there is substantial proof, because otherwise a lot of mocking potential would be lost.

Regarding the dream, I think that the story gave it away very clearly, so I find weird that some would try to dismiss it and I find weirder that there is some much speculation, with so little information to go through; to me, it seems a clear attempt to divert attention. Regarding Glibby, using a different font and taking things out of context to make the player seem more scummy, a tactic he used before as mafia, makes me believe he might have the same alignment as the previous game.

Jcakes apparent take on the dream mechanic, his suggestion of not having a lynch on D1, and his subsequent relative silence, despite being a spammer lvl70, took him to the top of my list, but Autti's performance won the race (faked noob behavior, pasting terms). I will change my vote if a more suitable train is taking off, though.

Vote: Autti.

Goryani's "That may be an extreme example, but it isn't an isolated incident":
I disagree; If I hadn't been the serial killer the previous game, I'd still have supported not to have a lynch, due to the random nature of the game.

Glibbucket's "Ask those of us who died screaming, murdered in our beds at the hands of a cruel heartless lying sack of crap named Valhauros! No offense":
None taken, Glib.

 

[Noodle]

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How come you never vote on D1 then?

Because it's rarely necessary. If someone is a vote away from a lynch and time is dwindling, I'll cast my vote. That generally isn't the case, and I'm certainly not going to vote for someone who has been lynched or locked - that's a classic mafia move.

 

[Ankeli1]

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Ankeli is making some sense to me, man I hate to say that. Have you had your scumdar worked on or is still in the shop?

Oh it's back, better than ever. Let's give it a run!

 

[Solar Ice]

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I like your style. It's obviously not your first game ever though, have you played much before? IRL or online?

Thanks for the compliment, assuming that a compliment is all that it was. However this is my very first game, either online or Irl. I have been trying to read as much as I can about Forum Mafia games and as well make my own thoughts and conclusions. Forum Mafia games are truly games of skill. I do wish that I had started playing years ago.

Fine.


Let's put that discussion to rest. It doesn't help us catching scum

And yet another freudian slip from you, perhaps? Is catching the townies the way to go then? I get really bad vibes from reading your posts, and you seem to tighten your own noose with just about every second post that you make.

With that said, my comment on having the red flag ready was coined at Solar Ice, and the dots at the end was my way of pressuring Solar for answers, because he basically singled out Skjolde out of the people that were discussing the current dream from the story. I was wondering why he targeted Skjolde specifically.


I still find it interesting that as far as I've noticed, he has yet to reply.

I have yet to reply beacuse of two things.


1. I did not know that you were directing the red flag comment of yours at me specifically, so I did not post more yesterday. Now I know that is was directed at me, I will answer that between Skjoldes quick defence of other people, possible freudian slips, his cop remark (which is mainly why I voted for him in the first place), constant probings and specific, detailed posts about dreams (that seem to indicate that he knows more than he is letting on). Add this up and in my opinion i see no reason for me not to vote for him and that he is fully deserving of my vote.




2 Real life. As I mentioned in my first post in this thread, My Day starts at 4 PM GMT+2. I can read posts at work on my phone, but for the moment I cannot post. You would have gotten your answer yesterday if you had asked me the question you wanted to ask, instead of being ambiguous.

So its a good thing you didn't actually make the major slip up then? Would hate to reveal that you are mafia?

Thought the same as soon as I read that interestingly worded statement.

The dream mechanics talk: I can understand wanting to discuss it, it's an unknown and not understood mechanic. On the other hand, RE gave us a lot of information and has clarified it well enough for me for today, I expect we will have more information on it by this point tomorrow, so It seems like further discussion on it is a waste and is just distracting further useful discussion.

Another red flag, specifically the bolded part.


I did not see RE posting anywhere today about further clarification on dreams. What exactly do you know that that everyone else (except possibly the scum) don't about the workings of these dreams? Did RE privately clarify to you of your role in these dreams or what abilities these dreams have?

 

[Solar Ice]

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{quote=solar ice]My Day starts at 4 PM GMT+2.

Mistype, that should read 6 Pm Gmt+2. Anyhow that will of course change whenever I get days off, or if it is a Sunday. (2 PM GMT+2 in that case

 

[Kestegs]

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Another red flag, specifically the bolded part.


I did not see RE posting anywhere today about further clarification on dreams. What exactly do you know that that everyone else (except possibly the scum) don't about the workings of these dreams? Did RE privately clarify to you of your role in these dreams or what abilities these dreams have?

here:

Dreams effect only the next day step or the next night from when they are 'cast' depending what it is. Each night a new dream is cast, which in turn effects only the next relevent step and so on. There will never be 2 dreams in effect at once.

The story can hint at the dreams effect but may not necessarly do so. Most story will just be flavor.

That is what I was referencing.


Val: Of course you want to start with the spammers, that's the opposite of you. And I have a reasonable amount of posts, as do some of your other "spammers". Not that you actually checked your facts when you made that list

 

[Bad Ash]

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well at the moment we have nothing other than word, and i operate most analysis on KISS or Occam's razor.

im working the other way, because currently it is more likely that everyone is town than mafia, i will have a look at the discrepancies and probably most importantly who the mafia decide to kill, i.e players targeting them.

now obviously this is a different tactic to everyone else, but hey its my first game and ill see where it gets me, not very far i presume.

currently i can't see any credible information of mafia, it appears to me a bunch of paranoid townies to eager to lynch anyone, such actions will only drown true information in a pool of counter accusations.

Not sure myself either.



The first one is somewhat answered by RE as stated, and as for the second... I'd guess in the region of 14 or so to cover for the game. Now, were you asking the first question because a) you didn't noticed RE posting or b) you wanted to see who didn't read that post by RE? I'm hoping A, as I don't see the benefit in trying to prod of things that are clearly stated somewhere in the thread. If a mistake is made about such a thing it's generally due to being sloppy / tired whilst reading and missing the post / sentence in question. I know, I do that a lot myself.

Just interested in the reasoning behind the question.



An honest mistake with proper capitalization on the 'I', or a thought that went too far and made it on paper?



I like your style. It's obviously not your first game ever though, have you played much before? IRL or online?



I don't get the amount of associations, intentional or un-, that've been going on in the game thus far. Also, not a thin vote at all IMO.



This... is too much information about a topic that no one but the ones owning it should know. Just saying.



Please do. While you're at it, try to reduce the amount of one liners you're dropping. They run out of content pretty fast. I'd like to get a read on you. Or maybe you could do that meta-read and drop a nice one liner on it?



Oh hi there, did you come from under the bridge? Very Noodle of you to just pop in with a short post. Not sure if gusta.



1. Go fish? And why assume no masons?
2. I'm not even sure who you're referring to, but I wouldn't be so sure of anyone's alignment unless I had an investigative role and had investigated them. Even then I'd be on my toes.



The way the world should roll. :wink:



Unvote: FoE
Vote: Autti

Unvote: korialstraz
Vote: Autti

I agree with Ankeli here. That is the post of all posts for no no's in a mafia game (especially day 1). Could he just be new? Yes, but I think its worth looking into. I would also be willing to revote korial or skjolde.

Lots of scum tells from people regarding the dreams. Do we act on this or do we just let it slide is the big question. korial and kestegs have both stated knowing more than most with no real reason as to why.

As for Noodle: better dead than alive usually. The game start time hasn't been good for me posting a lot and will most likely be that way for most of the game. I am around now though until I go to bed so huzzah.

as for the post restriction, it is day 1. I noticed a trend in korials posts and DID notice one where he did not use a smiley. Prodded him to see what we would get, got some info with Skjolde defending him and kestegs saying they cant explain it, but not enough to go off of IMO.

 

[Solar Ice]

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here:

That is what I was referencing.

Yeah, it crossed my mind that you were perhaps reffering to that however that post was made by RE yesterday not today. (post #57) and your post #188

 

[Noodle]

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That's better. Everything always seems a bit off without Bad Ash taking random pot shots at me for no apparent reason. Back to normal!

 

[Kestegs]

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Unvote: korialstraz
Vote: Autti

I agree with Ankeli here. That is the post of all posts for no no's in a mafia game (especially day 1). Could he just be new? Yes, but I think its worth looking into. I would also be willing to revote korial or skjolde.

Lots of scum tells from people regarding the dreams. Do we act on this or do we just let it slide is the big question. korial and kestegs have both stated knowing more than most with no real reason as to why.

As for Noodle: better dead than alive usually. The game start time hasn't been good for me posting a lot and will most likely be that way for most of the game. I am around now though until I go to bed so huzzah.

as for the post restriction, it is day 1. I noticed a trend in korials posts and DID notice one where he did not use a smiley. Prodded him to see what we would get, got some info with Skjolde defending him and kestegs saying they cant explain it, but not enough to go off of IMO.

I never said they can't explain it, I merely asked for clarification on typical post restriction game mechanics.

Yeah, it crossed my mind that you were perhaps reffering to that however that post was made by RE yesterday not today. (post #57) and your post #188

For future reference, "day" often means the entire 48 hour day phase, which is how I meant it. Easy misconception though. Also with different time zones using the term "day" in another way can be confusing.


I'm still sticking with SK as my goto guy.

Unvote: fredofEric
Vote:Skjode

I will switch to Autti or Flubb or korial though if needed, I'll be around for another 8 hours or so before I'm out for the day phase. Nobody else is giving me strong enough signals to put a vote on at this point.

 

[korialstraz]

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Lots of scum tells from people regarding the dreams. Do we act on this or do we just let it slide is the big question. korial and kestegs have both stated knowing more than most with no real reason as to why.

Do you have any specific examples?

as for the post restriction, it is day 1. I noticed a trend in korials posts and DID notice one where he did not use a smiley. Prodded him to see what we would get, got some info with Skjolde defending him and kestegs saying they cant explain it, but not enough to go off of IMO.

All I can say is 1) you missed a post where I didn't use a smiley and 2) I normally post using a lot of smileys. Gotten into my mafia game mode now though.


*goes back to re-reading thread*

 

[Bad Ash]

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Do you have any specific examples?



All I can say is 1) you missed a post where I didn't use a smiley and 2) I normally post using a lot of smileys. Gotten into my mafia game mode now though.


*goes back to re-reading thread*

The examples are there in spades for those reading. having to catch up on 10 pages of posts for the second time in this game and I am not going to go back and pick on peoples posts again when others have pointed them out already.

Also, why so adamant about me missing a post you didnt use a smiley in?:scratchchin:

 

[Solar Ice]

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I never said they can't explain it, I merely asked for clarification on typical post restriction game mechanics.


For future reference, "day" often means the entire 48 hour day phase, which is how I meant it. Easy misconception though. Also with different time zones using the term "day" in another way can be confusing.

I understand. Yeah I was probably too quick on the draw there, though I did take the time zones into account before making the post.

 

[korialstraz]

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I have yet to reply beacuse of two things.


1. I did not know that you were directing the red flag comment of yours at me specifically, so I did not post more yesterday. Now I know that is was directed at me, I will answer that between Skjoldes quick defence of other people, possible freudian slips, his cop remark (which is mainly why I voted for him in the first place), constant probings and specific, detailed posts about dreams (that seem to indicate that he knows more than he is letting on). Add this up and in my opinion i see no reason for me not to vote for him and that he is fully deserving of my vote.

Fair enough. Apparently you weren't the only one confused about that post, and I apologize for that.

And for your explenation on Skjolde, guess it makes sense. Maybe I need to tone down my "he's a new player" filter more. I'm not quite ready for vote for him yet though, unless it is needed for a lynch.

2 Real life. As I mentioned in my first post in this thread, My Day starts at 4 PM GMT+2. I can read posts at work on my phone, but for the moment I cannot post. You would have gotten your answer yesterday if you had asked me the question you wanted to ask, instead of being ambiguous.

Good enough answer for me, I'm not about to pressure you over real life stuff. And as well for my post not being as clear as I thought it was.

The examples are there in spades for those reading. having to catch up on 10 pages of posts for the second time in this game and I am not going to go back and pick on peoples posts again when others have pointed them out already.

Also, why so adamant about me missing a post you didnt use a smiley in?:scratchchin:

Ok then.

Because I've explained this previously, and it isn't just the two post thing either. I was away doing real life stuff, which I had also explained before leaving, so if you want to pressure me for that then go ahead.

 

[Kestegs]

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And for your explenation on Skjolde, guess it makes sense. Maybe I need to tone down my "he's a new player" filter more. I'm not quite ready for vote for him yet though, unless it is needed for a lynch.

Who are your top choices for today then? As far as I can tell you've not voted yet today.

 

[korialstraz]

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Alright some thoughts from me so far on players in this game. Didn't make it further than about page 4 (40 posts per page), and not sure how thoroughly I can manage to get myself to read the remaining posts. It takes a lot of time for me.


Sathoris: Page 2, saying he had a list of quotes with nasty replies, but didn't bother to even bring up a single one, and then refuses to answer it when questioned about which replies he had in mind. Page 3 unvoting Asrrin and voting Goryani. Wanting to force a discussion around a Gory lynch with his post #103, or just wanting people to discuss in general? A bit scummy vibe, but I know Sathoris has a weird style as well. Not quite sure what to make of it.

Bad Ash: For asking the weird question about a post restriction, and for sticking with it. Gives me a bit of a bad vibe, but not enough for a vote atm.

coju: Very little activity up until page 4 (where I didn't get to read further). Just busy, or riding low under the radar? Guess I'll wait and see when he posts again.

Had a note about little activity on Laarz, but IIRC he has posted a bit since I took that note.


As for who has been consistent/made sense/posted good stuff, both Pyro and Solar Ice (not including the missunderstanding going on) Asrrin made some good posts too, and Ankeli seems his usual self.


As for who I would vote for. Atm it stands between Autti and Skjolde. I might have had my "new player" filter set a bit too high, and with that lowered, those would get my vote. But since I can be around at the end of the day, I will take some more time to consider the options, and read page 5 and 6 more thoroughly.


Alright I'll be off for a bit playing. Will check back a little later.