Ravenwood Retreat Mafia Game.

[Bad Ash]

Re: Ravenwood Retreat Mafia Game.

A. I am by no means a walking dictionary nor am I the most edumacated person here on these forums

B. No, if I had been around I most likely would have voted for TC based on no lynch vs a lynch. I am on the lynch side of that equation because it gives us information. The non-vote on TC was due to work as was the Asrrin vs. Sathoris situation. Tis what it is.

 

[CoolguyBad]

Re: Ravenwood Retreat Mafia Game.

Cal, I'm still suspicious of you. I'm pretty sure you have a watcher role either way, but can you tell me who I targeted last night? (Just to be sure) The fact that you aggressively came out during the last day phase to lead a lynch again Sathoris (who ended up being mafia) relieved MUCH of my suspicion of you, but I'm not 100% there yet.

Krazey, you are 100% pro town in my eyes.

Zarniwoop...in the beginning, Marahumm said that last game (I think he said game?), Zarniwoop swore (I think he swore?) that he would not lie about being mafia. And then during the game, Zarniwoop also promised that if he was not a vanilla townie, he would NEVER post on these forums again. As dirty as this move is, I believe him. Zarn, please never post anything like that again, I don't understand why you would even say that to begin with, it just ruins the game (IMO). And if you ARE lying...then...-.- I would lose a lot of respect for you.

That leaves BA. I will almost more than likely vote for BA based on this process of elimination. It's interesting that BA came out guns blazing and aggressively targeted Cal though. Desperate scum strategy?

 

[Caluin Graye]

Re: Ravenwood Retreat Mafia Game.

Cal, I'm still suspicious of you. I'm pretty sure you have a watcher role either way, but can you tell me who I targeted last night? (Just to be sure) The fact that you aggressively came out during the last day phase to lead a lynch again Sathoris (who ended up being mafia) relieved MUCH of my suspicion of you, but I'm not 100% there yet.

My ability doesn't show who you targeted. That's a tracker.

I'm a watcher. I pick someone, and then I see who targeted them. That means I have to guess ahead of time, so it's not a perfect ability. Since you didn't target yourself last night, I don't know who you tried to protect.

 

[Bad Ash]

Re: Ravenwood Retreat Mafia Game.

Well not to nitpick haird but a watcher fits in more with a kidnapper than a tracker does :-x.

anywho:

Thats another reason I think Zarni is telling the truth is he has used that tactic before and was telling the truth. He has put his reputation on the line before and it worked.

The only one person who can fully be realized as pro-town is CbG.

I know you to think KI is 100% pro-town CbG but you shouldnt. KI in my eyes is #2 in terms of most likely to be pro-town.

is KI most likely to be pro-town? Yes. 100%? No.

Again, 2 kills happened last night and theres only 5 people left in the game. Process of elimination isn't relevant when everyone has claimed roles except zarni who has sworn on his mafia game that he is vanilla townie which has proven to be true in the past.

If theres 2 anti-town left and everyones claimed, there is no process of elimination.

IMO Cal has not lied about anything. His role is what it is, but he has also the power to kill. I have presented facts that I believe are strong implications against him, and the votes on me are going on..?

 

[Bad Ash]

Re: Ravenwood Retreat Mafia Game.

Bottom line is you can not have tunnel vision this late in a game. If you guys want to look at the last game it is easy to lose as a town if you arent aware of your situation. That cost me last game and I am hoping it wont cost me this game. You need your head on a swivel. I completely trust 1 person in this game at this point and its CbG. This isn't going to buy me votes and I am not looking to, I am hoping you all will be a little more cautious of eachother and not drop the "100%" bomb

 

[Kraz3yIvan]

Re: Ravenwood Retreat Mafia Game.

For the record I'm quite happy with my vote today - Bad Ash fits the bill quite a bit more than CG at this point, but as all these things are its touch and go really we can afford no real slip ups being close to game end.

Mull it over CgB for sure the vote today but for what its worth I think CG has enough "credit" in the bank for todays vote.

 

[Kraz3yIvan]

Re: Ravenwood Retreat Mafia Game.

Bottom line is you can not have tunnel vision this late in a game. If you guys want to look at the last game it is easy to lose as a town if you arent aware of your situation. That cost me last game and I am hoping it wont cost me this game. You need your head on a swivel. I completely trust 1 person in this game at this point and its CbG. This isn't going to buy me votes and I am not looking to, I am hoping you all will be a little more cautious of eachother and not drop the "100%" bomb

So just to confirm you completely trust the person who holds your lynching vote (not locking vote) strange one that Bad Ash! :nod:

And yes its exactly to buy you votes - you would not mention it other wise.

 

[Caluin Graye]

Re: Ravenwood Retreat Mafia Game.

If theres 2 anti-town left and everyones claimed, there is no process of elimination.

Can you show me where you claimed your role? No, not what you can do, I mean the actual name of the role. Everyone else has done so, but I can't find where you did.

Why is that?

 

[Bad Ash]

Re: Ravenwood Retreat Mafia Game.

Who do you trust the most in this game? The answer is very obvious its CbG. He's the only choice. It was like saying the sky is blue. I was being genuine in what I said, everyone else should not be 100% trusted and I put myself in that group. Go look at the last game, I thought it was in the bag and the cult won. I am giving advice to the one person I trust in this game to someone who is also the greenest.

Not sure why my lynch is a "slam dunk" when I am yet to see anything incriminating other than two opposite end of the spectrum work non-lynch votes.

If cal isn't Anti-town I would be utterly and entirely shocked and showed a wall of reasoning for why I believe that to be true

 

[Bad Ash]

Re: Ravenwood Retreat Mafia Game.

Can you show me where you claimed your role? No, not what you can do, I mean the actual name of the role. Everyone else has done so, but I can't find where you did.

Why is that?

I said it before

"roleblocker" went digging several times today to show why you are more than you say you are. If you want info on me you can go look it up for yourself, its there

 

[Kraz3yIvan]

Re: Ravenwood Retreat Mafia Game.

Can you show me where you claimed your role? No, not what you can do, I mean the actual name of the role. Everyone else has done so, but I can't find where you did.

Why is that?

Cos it probably starts with something like Mafia hitman etc etc :thumbup:

 

[Kraz3yIvan]

Re: Ravenwood Retreat Mafia Game.

If cal isn't Anti-town I would be utterly and entirely shocked and showed a wall of reasoning for why I believe that to be true

One slight snag with that "wall of reasoning" is some of it went back early game - hell everyone then was suspicious of everyone else. We know a lot more now than then - your non vote on Sathoris is the main sticking point with me - I've read your explanations but I think you were just trying to ride of the storm and got caught.

 

[Caluin Graye]

Re: Ravenwood Retreat Mafia Game.

I said it before

"roleblocker" went digging several times today to show why you are more than you say you are. If you want info on me you can go look it up for yourself, its there

I did dig for it. I couldn't find it, because it doesn't exist. You know this, and you're trying to deflect the question.

Perhaps I didn't make myself clear enough. For instance, I'm a watcher, but I'm named as the Reporter. I have stated this in the past, a couple of times.

Ivan has declared himself Scientist.
CgB declared Doctor.
Zarni declared City-slicker.

What have you declared? Nothing.

 

[Bad Ash]

Re: Ravenwood Retreat Mafia Game.

you're right. the people asking me my night actions the last couple of night phases is them just being crazy cause I never said anything about it.

And by that logic KI you can dis-regard the first 60 pages of this entire thread. When someone is acting on their own it leaves their entire gameplay to call out anyone and everyone plain and simple. Saying "everyone is suspicious of everone" is true, but I guarunteeeeeee you there is information there. Always is. SK is harder, and I caught Caluin. There arent very many "coincidences" in mafia games

 

[Kraz3yIvan]

Re: Ravenwood Retreat Mafia Game.

you're right. the people asking me my night actions the last couple of night phases is them just being crazy cause I never said anything about it.

And by that logic KI you can dis-regard the first 60 pages of this entire thread. When someone is acting on their own it leaves their entire gameplay to call out anyone and everyone plain and simple. Saying "everyone is suspicious of everone" is true, but I guarunteeeeeee you there is information there. Always is. SK is harder, and I caught Caluin. There arent very many "coincidences" in mafia games

I was certainly not stating you should ignore the first 60 pages but you have to weigh the various parts of the whole game differently. Information you glean from the start or near the start is certainly useful yes but at the business end of the market where we are now certainly in my eyes has been revealing and carries more weight than what was said early doors - I believe actions speak louder than said words

 

[Bad Ash]

Re: Ravenwood Retreat Mafia Game.

You got anything besides the non-lynch? Cause I have stated why that didn't happen (which you clearly dont believe) and am about to pull a Zarni regarding it haha. I would again like to hear something reasonable besides that because I was at work with no computer. Go ahead and look back at the last couple of games, exact same time issues with each one around the exact same times. Not really buying a no lynch issue when it was completely split 10 minutes before the day ended.

 

[Caluin Graye]

Re: Ravenwood Retreat Mafia Game.

Raise your hand if you think Asrrin is not mafia. Anyone? No? Didn't think so.

So, with everyone here knowing that Asrrin is mafia, even Ash, why would we want to lynch the serial killer today? We can presume that it would free Asrrin, making the score 3-2 before night phase, meaning mafia is only a successful night kill away from winning.

If we lynch mafia, then we're 3-0-1. Much better odds for the town.

Ash isn't trying to get me lynched on the basis that I'm mafia; he's trying on the basis that I'm serial killer. He's intentionally trying to sabotage the town.

Also, note how Ash has avoided answering two of my questions now.

 

[zarniwoop]

Re: Ravenwood Retreat Mafia Game.

Bottom line - it's either BA or CGB (or both). That's my suspicion at this time and has been for days. I've been set for days on Sathoris, Asrrin, and Ash. Asrrin may have been kidnapped by one of the remaining, but he's still dirty.

I'm going to hold off on voting for a bit. I want to see this play out before I make my vote.

 

[Bad Ash]

Re: Ravenwood Retreat Mafia Game.

Raise your hand if you think Asrrin is not mafia. Anyone? No? Didn't think so.

So, with everyone here knowing that Asrrin is mafia, even Ash, why would we want to lynch the serial killer today? We can presume that it would free Asrrin, making the score 3-2 before night phase, meaning mafia is only a successful night kill away from winning.

If we lynch mafia, then we're 3-0-1. Much better odds for the town.

Ash isn't trying to get me lynched on the basis that I'm mafia; he's trying on the basis that I'm serial killer. He's intentionally trying to sabotage the town.

Also, note how Ash has avoided answering two of my questions now.

This is propoganda. I am trying to avoid the lynch of a townie which would end the chance of the town winning the game. Explain how that isnt true?

Which two? I said what role I was and I claimed it days ago. People have been asking me about my blocking night actions the last couple of days. Again, go do your own dirty work, I am not going to waste my time to prove something from someone who is trying to hang me.

As for the Asrrin thing, I dont know. Either you can use your ability and kill at the same time, or krazeyivan is in a group with you.

Caluin, you said I was the serial killer did you not? So YOU are trying to get the serial killer lynched are you not?

Riddle me this: Asrrin was anti-town. we are all extremely certain of this. You said I am responsible for killing Asrrin. This would make me the serial killer would it not?

keep talking, it gets more and more enlightening.

 

[Bad Ash]

Re: Ravenwood Retreat Mafia Game.

Yeah, that's cute Ash. You just wanted to make sure I didn't spot you or your mafia buddy Asrrin making the hit. However, I have a more likely scenario.

Asrrin was last night's hitman. He's been holding a grudge against Ankeli for some time now.

Whomever the kidnapper is (It's pretty much down to either Ash or Zarniwoop), then targeted Asrrin. Since all night abilities go off, Asrrin gets snatched on his way back to his room after making the kill on Ankeli.

I believe Ivan is town. I believe CgB is town. I know I'm town. That leaves just Zarniwoop and Ash. One is the SK, the other the final mafia member. The proper course is to lynch the mafia scum, let the kidnapper polish off Asrrin, then end the game by lynching the SK.

The only question before us is which is which? Only one way to find out, and I'm leaning towards Bad Ash as mafia due to his sketchy voting history.

Vote: Bad Ash

ThunderCat. That means I watched TC two nights in a row, the second being when Sathoris killed him.



I didn't say you killed Ankeli. I said Asrrin did.

The SK kidnapped Asrrin because that's the only chance he has at winning. Had he kidnapped town, mafia would have won, guaranteed.

Now read his latest post.

YA KIDDIN ME?