Question about Crafts/Rerolls/Gambling!

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Question about Crafts/Rerolls/Gambling!

Hello, today I started to try some rerolls/gambling. I am new to that and read some guides.

Following this guide: http://www.purediablo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=403178, I tried to get some +7MF Small Charms.
Well, I had a charm lvl 58 or so (guide said), rerolled it and got a lvl 56 or so. After that, I rerolled again and got the worse small charm possible, level 1. So, I rerolled the lvl 1 (SC of Fire) and found a lvl 46 again.

Question 1: Wasnt it suppose to be -5/+4 from the lastest level charm?

Question 2: Gambling amulets, which level should I be to find the +Skills good ones? After gambling some ****, I used the 3 Amulet for 1 Ring cube recipe and all I got was low level rings. Wasnt it suppose to be a higher lvl?

Question 3: I read in a guide that smiters must have some crafted gear, the recipe was a gloves, 1 P Diam and a Jewel. Does my level means anything when I make the craft?

Thanks.
 
Re: Question about Crafts/Rerolls/Gambling!

1) required level or affix level has nothing to do with item lvl, ilvl doesn't change with 3Pgems +magic item reroll recipe - that means that with high ilvl item - you can roll the low affix and then high lvl affix again.

2) IIRC +2 skill amulets have to be ilvl 90, so to ensure ilvl 90 while gambling, you have to be clvl 95

3) Yes, character level determines number of possible added affixes and alsi outpu ilvl of the craft

More on Warrior's Item Generation Tutorial
 
Re: Question about Crafts/Rerolls/Gambling!

Wait for replies, the forums aren't always full of activity =P

1. The required level has nothing to do with the item level. Since ilvl isn't displayed, the only (legitimate) way to know the item level is to know the level of the thing that dropped it. With 3 pgem rerolling, your charm is still the same level as when it dropped.

2. I THINK the ideal level for +2 skill amulets is 92 or something like that. Amulets with +3 tree are available much earlier, though. As for the 3 rings -> amulet and 3 amulets -> ring recipes, again, the required level is independent of the item level.

3. Your level affects the possible affixes and the number of affixes. Just keep in mind that crafted items tend to have stupidly high level requirements (i.e. if you're making them with the character that needs them, don't plan on using them right away).
 
Re: Question about Crafts/Rerolls/Gambling!

Q1: If you use 3 pgems + magic item recipe to reroll, the ilvl doesn't change. I think your "lvl 58" and "lvl 1" means required level to use, right? even a charm from baal (highest ilvl in the game) can have affix which doesn't require any lvl. Pure luck and I think that is explained in the guide you linked.

Q2: This is where that -5/+4 works. If you want +2 skill amulets, you have to be at lvl95 to have a chance to get +2 skills amulet for every gambled amulet. So, you need at least ilvl90, to have a chance of getting affix with +2 skills.

Q3: Yes, your character lvl matters when crafting. IIRC, crafted item's ilvl is calculated like this: (character lvl + magic items ilvl) / 2 So, with lvl 93 character and with lvl91 amulet, the crafted item's ilvl is 92 (able to get +2 skills affix).

edit. darn, I'm slow. Ok, I'm working also, so that slows me down (even more :rolleyes:)
 
Re: Question about Crafts/Rerolls/Gambling!

Neksja said:
Q3: Yes, your character lvl matters when crafting. IIRC, crafted item's ilvl is calculated like this: (character lvl + magic items ilvl) / 2 So, with lvl 93 character and with lvl91 amulet, the crafted item's ilvl is 92 (able to get +2 skills affix).
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That example would actually result in an Ilvl of 91, because the Clvl is halved then truncated, and the Ilvl is halved then truncated, and then the two are added up.



 
Re: Question about Crafts/Rerolls/Gambling!

Sorry to do a bit of digging....but can I assume the gambling and rerolling part is exactly applicable to classic as well? I'm thinking of using those gambled amulets from friends to get those +2 skills amulets for my chars
 
Re: Question about Crafts/Rerolls/Gambling!

IIRC u cant get +2 skills ammy in classic this way. the 3pgems rerolling is a LOD recipe i think. thats why the +2skills ammy are so valuble.
 
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