PvP Wolf Help

McClay

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PvP Wolf Help

well, ive looked up alot of info and guides and i cant get a strait strategy down. how does thsi sound ?? whats sounds good, what sounds bad? what can improve?

Skills
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Rabies-20
Fury-20
Lycon-20
sage hoto-20
Psn Creeper-20
raven-1
direwolf-1
wherwolf-1
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Gear
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Armor:Ap Bramble
Helm:+4 ss +2 feral rage Cerebus
Rings/Ammy:Angelic
Belt:Dungoes
Boots:Gores
Gloves:Trang
Sheild:Storm Sheild(shael)
Wepon:Griefz or ebotdz
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Please, this good or bad, or ok, can anything be better???
---Also, would psn facet in helm and 1 pt to cyclone armor be good?
 
well, ive looked up alot of info and guides and i cant get a strait strategy down. how does thsi sound ?? whats sounds good, what sounds bad? what can improve?

Skills
--------
Rabies-20
Fury-20
Lycon-20
sage hoto-20
Psn Creeper-20
raven-1
direwolf-1
wherwolf-1
-------------
Gear
-----------
Armor:Ap Bramble
Helm:+4 ss +2 feral rage Cerebus
Rings/Ammy:Angelic
Belt:Dungoes
Boots:Gores
Gloves:Trang
Sheild:Storm Sheild(shael)
Wepon:Griefz or ebotdz
---------------------------------------
Please, this good or bad, or ok, can anything be better???
---Also, would psn facet in helm and 1 pt to cyclone armor be good?

First of all, Oak is better then Hotw since you are already going to pack enough Ar to hit anything but the most rigged exile Pali. 1 Point in Hotw will prolly be enough to even hit exile users.

Secondly, Imop, Jalals is better then Cerebus bite. Jalals gives 4+ shapeshift, while boosting 2+ in your summon tree still. It gives res, fhr, str and a sugnificant ar boost.

Cerebus gives open wounds, which you wont really use, less plus skills since you wont use ferral rage too often in pvp, and Life leach which you also wont use much in pvp. The only advantage of Cerebus over Jalals is the slight increase in defense, and the big boost to Ar. Imop, the pros of Jalals far outweigh the pros of Cerebus.

Put in a raven frost for the cannot be frozen and ar. You shouldnt lose much Ar (which you will already have tons of) for the great benefit of cbf.

Now that I think about it, only keep angelics for BvB and Smite/Zealer duels. Otherwise the huge boost to Ar is way overkill. Soj+Rfrost+Maras would be a much better choice for the majority of duels. If you need cheaper jewlery, Rfrost+Rfrost+3+shapeshift amulet would work.

Grief would give you the best choice for close combat duels with zealers/BvC/kickers/javazons. Another offbeat choice I have used is Doom Zerker. The holy freeze is considered bm, but in public games it makes rabies attacks a lot easier.

A nice long range 2hander on switch might be nice for you vs casters and hammerdins. Eth Tombraver being the goto, but Eth Bonehew being a nice cheaper option. If this does not apeal to you, a cta+spirit on switch would be pretty effective.

Make sure you reach a comfortable balence in fast hit recovery/fast run walk breakpoints. Have max res and max ias. If you can do all of these things without using the socket in your helm, use it on a poison facet.

The strategy is, fury against zeal, jab, casters, hammers. Use Rabies against Barbs, summoners, casters with minions(on the minions, which spreads to the caster), smiters. Then RUN. Finish them with Fury.

This build is extreemly fun. Have a good time killing all the other classes that underestimate shapeshifters. :)



 
mpbu mpsu said:
grief is crap , use ebotdz + phoenix or eth tomb reaver zod + jewels ,

and watch out for the smiters ;)


Heres a couple pros and cons of those two weapons.

Grief phase blade : High max and minimum damage : con ~Low range of 2

Ebotd Berzerk axe : Range 3 and slightly higher max damage then grief pb ,weapon of choice vs barbarians : con~ Inconsistant average damage compared to grief.

Both are very good weapons in there own retrospective but to say grief sucks is utter blasphemy. You would be doin 6k - 6 k fury with grief phase blade compared to ebotdz's 3k -7k fury damage. Keep in mind that grief has deadly strike wich makes that minimum damage insane.

Now as for the phoenix monarch.

Phoenix : Small damage increase from the enhanced damage: CONS~ Chance to cast firestorm interupts your fury , more dex needed for max block then stormshield , No damage reduction.

Stormshield : 35% damage reduction , higher block and block rate then Phoenix requiring less dex for max block and an open socket for the rune jewel of your choice. Cons~ none unless you dont like the strength req.

If its more damage you want for vs casters and smiters then just swap the shield into stash and use a ebotd great poleaxe or eth tomb reaver with zod + 2x 40/15 ias jewels if you can aquire it.
 
My wolf uses ebotd Z...I love the extra stats it gives, but it makes gear switches harder. Especially if I try and use my tomb reaver...I have to make up 30 str.

I was thinking of a rebuild where he uses greif pb and SS. Keep str at 156, so I can use reaver on switch.

I hate to be just another greif user though. I like the ebotz just because it is different. In your opinion, Kiba, which is better? If I have to add 30 str in stat points(to make up for the loss on switch) is ebotz really worth it?
 
Josiphos said:
My wolf uses ebotd Z...I love the extra stats it gives, but it makes gear switches harder. Especially if I try and use my tomb reaver...I have to make up 30 str.

I was thinking of a rebuild where he uses greif pb and SS. Keep str at 156, so I can use reaver on switch.

I hate to be just another greif user though. I like the ebotz just because it is different. In your opinion, Kiba, which is better? If I have to add 30 str in stat points(to make up for the loss on switch) is ebotz really worth it?

Im gonna guess that your base strength is low and around 50 -70?

I do see a problem when building around ebotdz for the +30attributes since it does limit your gear choice like you said.

Ebotdz is a good weapon but its not worth it imho building around the +30 attributes since then it limites you to just that weapon , you wouldnt be able to put on greif phase blade or any other one hand weapon since you would lose the 30 strength needed for stormshield. Even if you did use strength charms for stormshield you would have less block from the lost +30 dex.

Depending on how good your annihilus and torch are i would use around 90 -100 base strength to be flexible on your gear options. Kiba currently has 91 Base strength with a 18stat anni / 19stat torch.

Another mistake i see some werewolf players do is they will put points in dex with two 20 dex raven frosts on. So when they are around level 80 and want to swap the rings with angelics to duel a zealer for example they find out they lost a lot of dex from raven for max block.

Awooo~*
 
what bout this setup.

SS + ebotdz then ebotd tm on the switch.

Is ebotd tm as good as eth tomb with jewels?

-(can some1 post eth tomb screen shot)-
 
McClay said:
what bout this setup.

SS + ebotdz then ebotd tm on the switch.

Is ebotd tm as good as eth tomb with jewels?

-(can some1 post eth tomb screen shot)-

Stormshield + ebotdz would be good but the thundermaul would be far to slow and only has a range of 2.

You would be better off gettin this weapon for a two hander.
Ebotd Great Poleaxe

Faster attack speed and range 5. If you can't get your paws on a eth tomb reaver i would get a ebotd great poleaxe.

Heres a sceenshot of a tomb reaver.
http://img483.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot003rq5.jpg

If you get one with 270 - 280% ed you the weapon should be up in the 1000 max damage range with 2x 40ed/15 ias jewels. My tomb is 276% base enhanced damage and was around 840 max damage with out the jewels.
 
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