Day 2 in Redux (as seen by the most frequent poster)
@Rashiminos: in your' reasoning for voting for me today, there are a few flaws. First of all, as you might have understood if you'd carefully read what I wrote, I am afraid of lynching the village idiot. Secondly, my main point of not wanting to lynch someone when not having a clue was that the most likely candidate for lynching is a townie. Unless you have solid suspicion towards someone there is little point in lynching that person. If you find it so vital to lynch at every moment possible, then why didn't you vote for RevenantsKnight yesterday when he was already the leading candidate for lynching? I know most votes for him were only received after your last post yesterday, but at the time of your last post he was already the leading candidate. Instead you jumped on the bandwagon to try and get enough votes for Jaago, why? On another note, why are xduckster and water_moon obvious townies in your opinion?
If the idiot wants to be lynched, they're not going to act like an idiot. They're going to set themselves up, and then set up a contrived defense that will conveniently fall apart when it comes down to the last one or two votes, should people be reading attentively. As for people pretending to be idiots, it's one possibility that a mafia is doing so, but you've got to connect it to other suspicious activities.
Rash, you seem good on day one, but you mess up hopping along someone. Please explain your votes more before making them (that goes for the opening vote today too).. If I were you I would've waited for Nikon's reply to Moar before doing anything.
Sometimes my votes can't be supported by all my reasons, some because they are inadmissible, and others I don't want the mafia to pick up on. In the latter case a review of the thread might serve well enough.
It is certianly possible that:
a. the mafia took out one of their own, esp since he would be suspicious sooner or later. (the mafia belives they are smarter than us)
b. Skoolbus could have reassigned unfilled rolls to other players and given the replacements townie rolls. ('bus belives he's smarter than us or knows that we know he's smart and are smart ourselves)
c. the mafia belives that the replacements had rolls but drixx was not a mafia therefor he was a better target. (mafia smarter than skoolbus)
d. the vigilate was in fact the one to act out, in which case the mafia are beign too smart for their own good.
e. It's still disorganized crime and the hit was random. (Mafia knows we're smart, and is hoping we will outsmart ourselves.)
f. The Dr was active and lucky, hence only 1 kill. (when all the other possible solutions have been exausted, what ever remains, however unlikly must be the case)
Several of these scenarios are either illegal or not well thought out.
A) mafia cannot target themselves
B) It's important to replace all roles, inactive townies are bad for the game as well.
C) This scenario is consistent with how long night 1 lasted.
D) Interesting until skoolbus told us we would know when the doctor saves someone
E) Could be, but most likely it wasn't because the mafia wants to kill the special town roles, and the VI.
F) We didn't here about the doctor saving anyone.
My theory can only make sense if both of them are mafia. Honestly it doesn't really matter which of the two gets eliminated first because the other one will most likely go next. Nothing personal against him but in the game, he annoys me more than RK so might as well get rid of him now.
When proposing a theory, you should discredit other possible theories.
Dammit stop posting while I'm trying to make sense -_-
Okay, I don't agree with Gohabs on the way he singled out both Rev and Rash as working together. However I do agree we need a strategy.
Also, I don't like how you ''translate'' posts Rash. However I do agree that's how you could read it and it isn't looking logical. You read the latest Harry Potter? For the greater cause. Attracting too much attention is bad, but it might give us clues.
The posts I "translated" got reactions, which is part of the reason for doing so.
And most of Rash's mafia-like behavior has little to nothing to do with RK. I find his role hinting a but troublesome (i.e. yesterday hinted at witness) and it is a bit mafia-like to put words in other people's mouths. But there is no RK link.
I think the townies need to be on the lookout for non-mafia special roles. For one thing, the mafia certainly may try to kill them, and it would been additional information on the night kills. It might also help townies to decide whether to trust someone making a claim about a role later.
Long post by RK.
Is he trying to say something?
I'm still reading up so I'll get to the important stuff in a moment, but his b-day is Oct.5, he is in fact a Libra, which o/c stands for balance and justice.
If you would double-check, you might notice they were join dates:smiley:
Now the only downside to this argument (at least the only one that I see at the moment) is the possibility that the mafia thought that Drixx was a more likely candidate for village idiot than RevenantsKnight. Personally I saw no such candidacy on Drixx' side, but I'll try to look into his posts to see if there is anything indicating such a possibility.]
You assume the mafia's top priority is to take out the idiot, which isn't necessarily so. If they get a good lead on the cop, they'll chase it.
I´ve caught up with the thread as much as I could. My suspicion of Rashiminos still stands. It´s even grown a bit. After his ¨don´t save me doc¨ I was affraid he might be the VI at first. But I haven´t seen anything afterwards to back that up. I still suspect he has a role, but I don´t know which one.
I haven´t found any new suspects. A few posts were odd, but with the limited time I had for cross/double checking nothing clicked for me.
So I´m torn between voting Rash or RK. And I think I have to vote now, because I likely won´t be on again the rest of the day (unless it get´s prolonged again). My gut tells me that Rash is the most suspicious of the two, but my head says that a vote for RK is more likely to be effective.
I´ve always been one to follow my head.
He didn't cite where his suspicion of me jumped, just attributed it to gut, then he joins the RK train. I've still got my eyes on you muzzz.
There are only two roles in the game that might, at this early stage, have the kind of precise knowledge to claim that another player is definitely innocent, and that voting for that person's lynching is "delusional." Those two roles are the cop, and of course, the mafia (who would use this ploy to protect their own).
I'm taking the 18/21 chance that RK is not a role we want to lynch. Most of the accusations against him are that he is acting like a moron and many of you are assuming he's the idiot and also assume the mafia considers him the same way.
Luckly in the intervening posts, Rash made me feel even better about voting for him, not less.
If he were the witness as he is implying, it would be best for the mafia to avoid killing him until last. Thus he either is
a: Not the witness and trying to save his skin from both parties or
b: So sure of his greater intellect that he would reveal himself as a trick to draw mafia fire/confuse the issue or
c: As a last ditch effort to save himself from a lynch, thereby negating any good he could do since he would no longer serve his roll.
Now it is by no means the elventh hour, nor is he in such danger as to need to reveal himself. Thus he is eaither lying, or outsmarting himself.
Some people took my "don't save me doctor" post the wrong way. I was probably outsmarting myself there as I believed I appeared too townie to be left alive. Obviously that is not the case, as the mafia had bigger fish to fry apparently. The wrong person has been confused with the witness role, what can I say?
With all of these considerations, my vote is still on Moar. I do have some ideas about the Masons, the Cop, and the Vigilante, and I'm still looking for the Witness and the Idiot. Muzzz, Jaago, and Lister are still on my suspect list, although Lister has become less suspicious since the time I voted him. I wonder if any of my hints came out the way I wanted them to... probably not...
