OT: The SPF Mafia Game Round Three

[Jaago]

Yeah, funny how you say Gohabs hasn't given valid reasoning yet you vote for me with the same reason (IE none).

Vote Jaago

I'll dig up my reasoning later, although I have given it plenty IMO.

Now it's getting interesting. I admit that my thoughts about you might have a bit too read-between-the-lines type, but you certainly have not given plenty of reasoning against me. All I can find is in posts 575 and 688.

In post 575 you just say that you have been suspicious of me and I'm more suspicious because I returned GoHabs's vote. Fair and square, but that isn't really plenty. Yes, I had had suspicions towards GoHabs and I still have, but he is a minor worry to me now.

Post 688, on the other hand, is totally void. First, you accuse me of being willing to bandwagon on someone in order to get a lynching and then you hop on the bandwagon yourself. Convincing. This is one major reason why I'm suspicious of you.

And there's the thing that you're not dead yet. If you were a townie, your activity/voting analysis posts would be helpful but also make you THE target for mafia. However, if you are in the mob, those posts hold no risk at all. That's because it is your conclusions about them that people see and care about; it's just another way to control and misguide a few sheep.

And I agreed with nikon on some of his points. Therefore, I propose a toast for lord nikon. Cheers.

:hang:

 

[SiTro]

Sir Lister of Smeg: GoHabsGo is voting for Jaago because for the past few days he has stated that he believes Jaago to be mafia. Also, if Jaago isn't mafia, he is apparently definitely the VI. Therefore by voting for Jaago he expresses what he thinks and gives reason to hope against hope that he's right.

Water_Moon: I'm quite surprised and honoured to receive the yacht, that was always L. Nikon's treasured possession. I'm planning a tour of the island later this year now, in his memory. The Bentley will come in handy, though I wasn't exactly looking to replace my car. Maybe I can sell my existing one on eBay. As regards the 'restaurant', well in recent years that had been on something of a downward slope anyway. I'm thinking of closing for a few months, refurbishing the whole place and having a big winter re-opening party as a jazz bar. Expect tunes ranging from classics like Glenn Miller and Duke Ellington to catchy numbers by the Squirrel Nut Zippers and Big Bad Voodoo Daddy. All the while drinking anything from a standard range of beers, ales and wines to ordering from a menu of alcoholic and non-alcoholic cocktails. I think, given the region, I might have some trouble finding live bands to play mind. On the other hand, I'm a trombonist myself and if I can find a few other interested people we could maybe have a house band there.

I'm going to miss the times when Nikon was around though. We were always close friends, ever since I moved into the village and accidentally took his parking spot.

I'm prepared to believe that Jaago is innocent, on the basis that it was he who pointed out a fairly decisive pre-game quote that caused many people to stop and think when RK's VIdiotic posting was heading him towards a lynch. With RK confirmed as a townie, it takes away Jaago's motive to do that, and that post was fairly buried in the early pages of the thread.

Sint however, has become the main information provider of this game. Firstly by taking an active role and not only providing it himself but saying ahead of time that he will do this (but never on the first post, eh?). Secondly, by being one of the players with RL experience, and underlining that fact with a post a few days back, it implies that the insights he draws from peoples behaviour can be relied upon. This is dangerous if he is playing a mafia role.

To me at the moment, the most suspicious people in play are Sint Nikolaas, GoHabsGo and possibly Moar, though I'm surer about the former two than I am about the last one.

Vote: Sint Nikolaas

 

[Rashiminos]

I have this picture in mind, and I'm going to be painting it soon. Meanwhile, I'm searching the car and the house for valuable information.

 

[skoolbus1]

OT: if you did not see Shaun Of The Dead yet, you should.

I hated that movie, it was not funny at all.

To the late Lord Nikon: yes, I do belive that as an individual, people are fundementally smart, but I studied Bussiness and Economics, so I know that the larger the group, the lower the collective IQ. Thus the mafia has the advantage, but your smoke screen was far from a help to the townspeople, innocent or not.

empahasis mine, mostly b/c all quotes are italiziced.

We really do need to take into account clues that our lovey game master is giving us. Why is SiTro mentioned twice? And resturant, HELLO! can anyone say pizzeria as a front? Why are any of these folk mentioned? We know that if LN was mafia, and thus knew who was who, at least one is innocent, but by the same reasoning, at least one is likly guilty.

The Thyaid part is in no doubt due to the communist remarks when setting up his lynch, after all she gets the $$. But what of the other two?

The part italicized was what NIKON pm'ed me, I wouldn't use it as a hint I gave you all or anything like that because if he made attempts to drop hints I wouldn't have posted it, I believe he left stuff to friends, regardless of their ties with the mafia.

 

[goltar25]

Well, we may have goofed again with Nikon, but I'm not so sure. But either way, my suspicions are still basically the same. But we still need to lynch someone. So the most suspicious of the vote getters gets it. My reasoning's probably way back somewhere.

Vote: Jaago

 

[SiTro]

It's not. That's the first time you've mentioned Jaago in any of your posts.

 

[Jaago]

Funny how some people are stacking on me when they haven't got any ground behind it (not that anybody has) and many others they have spoken up against go free.

But I guess it feels better than having a fourth lynchless day.

There are still 3 people who haven't said a word today. Two other people haven't yet voted. And it is already past noon. We're waiting...

 

[GoHabsGo]

Funny how some people are stacking on me when they haven't got any ground behind it

This game as been based on random accusations and wild guess since day 1, why would it change now?

 

[Jaago]

you're probably right. Add in Bandwagoning and the list is complete. :tongue:

 

[SiTro]

Unofficial vote count:

Jaago: 4 (GoHabsGo, Sint Nikolaas, Cygnus, goltar25)
Sint Nikolaas: 4 (Jaago, Sir Lister of Smeg, CDRToast, SiTro)
Sir Lister of Smeg: 1 (Thyiad)


I personally believe Sint Nikolaas, GoHabsGo and goltar25 to be highly suspicious and hence most likely to be mafia. In contrast, Jaago seems a lot less alarming. We need to lynch Sint as soon as possible.

 

[Sint Nikolaas]

Okay, it's been a long weekend for me, it's ~1 am now, and I have to get up at 6 again. I'm not going to put the table up or work out the info on xDuck, but I wanted another post out before I miss most of the day huh? Just replying to the people who went after me/asked me something.

Okay, first of, Jaago: I must confess I thought I had given more reasoning then I did, but here goes. In post #519 I was undecided if you were town or mafia. Said you lacked reasoning. Quote from that post: ''So, discarding the people most likely to be townies, I'm left with jaago, moar, touch and thy for mafia.'' After which I said you were talkative so I could see what you were about.
Then we come to #575 which you found too. I think I explained reasonably then why I suspected you, nice you agree :wink3: I disagree on #688 being ''totally void''. I do see the difference of our bandwagon behaivior. I have reason behind it, I even said why I hopped the wagon even though I wanted to vote for you in the first place. You voted more then once (I can't be bothered now to look up who and where, but it has been noted by me and others) without solid reasoning and hopping the wagon.
Also, you missed post #723 too it seems, however I'll admit that there isn't that much new info in there. Said you're semi active/lying low and repeated some other things.

Anyway, it did seem plenty to me. Must've thought more then I typed.

And there's the thing that you're not dead yet. If you were a townie, your activity/voting analysis posts would be helpful but also make you THE target for mafia. However, if you are in the mob, those posts hold no risk at all. That's because it is your conclusions about them that people see and care about; it's just another way to control and misguide a few sheep.

And it also makes me THE target to lynch aparently. Maybe you didn't notice but I've had people comming after me for the last few days, would you kill me at night if you were mafia, or would you try and give a nudge and see if you can get me lynched during daytime? Yeah I thought so too.. free townie lynching.

And I agreed with nikon on some of his points. Therefore, I propose a toast for lord nikon. Cheers.

Can't argue with that.. oh wait, I already did. With Nikon.

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Sint however, has become the main information provider of this game. Firstly by taking an active role and not only providing it himself but saying ahead of time that he will do this (but never on the first post, eh?). Secondly, by being one of the players with RL experience, and underlining that fact with a post a few days back, it implies that the insights he draws from peoples behaviour can be relied upon. This is dangerous if he is playing a mafia role.

Wait.. so you're suspicious of me because 1) I'm active and provide information and 2) I have experience with the game?
Oh come on... Honestly, I have half a mind right now to stop making the table, info on dead people and reasoning behind my voting. What's the use if it'll only get me lynched. So I have real life experience, didn't I say it was different from a forum? Isn't it? I can see people's behaviour? I can see / read exactly the same as everyone else here can. It's the amount of paranoia you add that'll make someone mafia.

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Funny how some people are stacking on me when they haven't got any ground behind it (not that anybody has) and many others they have spoken up against go free.

And another silent discrediting of the people who voted against you. How about you start reasoning your own votes before going after others?

Also, now that I think of it, why if you agreed with Nikon did you vote against him Jaago? If you're suspicious of me, why didn't you point it out yesterday? Because he was an easier lynch? Because I'm an easier lynch today?

I'm off to bed. Hope I can make it back before the day ends.

ps. When I reread this post I guess I was comming of a bit bad tempered at your quote Sitro. Sorry, it just didn't make sence to me and wrote whatever came to mind. I left it in mainly because it's honest. Also, didn't like your ''We need to lynch Sint as soon as possible.'' can't be bothered to look for more reasoning behind that right now.

 

[SiTro]

Apologies if I was a little harsh with how I put it. However I had doubts about both yourself and Nikon in that debate over the past few days and rather than pick one side I'd play it safe and have you both lynched.

This made me smile though:

It's the amount of paranoia you add that'll make someone mafia.

I'm told I'm quite paranoid at times in person too. Though be careful - that's Real Life experience there. :grin: (I'm poking fun at myself here, look forward to your next post)

 

[Jaago]

I disagree on #688 being ''totally void''. I do see the difference of our bandwagon behaivior. I have reason behind it, I even said why I hopped the wagon even though I wanted to vote for you in the first place. You voted more then once (I can't be bothered now to look up who and where, but it has been noted by me and others) without solid reasoning and hopping the wagon.

I think the reason I said I was ready to hop on the bandwagon for someone else was quite obvious. Haven't I already made clear my opinion on lynching and not lynching during the day periods?

Also, now that I think of it, why if you agreed with Nikon did you vote against him Jaago? If you're suspicious of me, why didn't you point it out yesterday? Because he was an easier lynch? Because I'm an easier lynch today?

Again, I said it already. If we hadn't lynched nikon, It would have been yet another lynchless day and today nearly half of the town would be voting for him again, making it impossible to lynch any mafia member. (So yes, because you're an easier lynch today. )

And by the way, I don't like the way you say my votes don't have much credit, because they have; much more than those of many other people.

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And the quiet people haven't still said anything.

 

[muzzz]

Didn't really expect to have a choice today, nice :grin: But I'm tired as hell, so I'll keep this short.

Funny how Sint and Jaago are both arguing their case by pointing out that the other one didn't provide enough reasoning. I'm still inclined to believe both are townies, especially after post #802 by Sitro. But it's almost dinner time, and I believe this day will be over by the time I'm done eating. I don't have any real reason to pick one of them over the other. But by now I'm thinking Jaago hit the nail head-on yesterday when he said we need to get this over with. Eh, sue me for thinking Nikon's beating would fix that.

Vote: Sint Nikolaas

(I promise to pretend more intelligence after some sleep )

 

[skoolbus1]

I dont think skunkbelly or Moar have posted yet today... Which must mean they're both zombies!!! But if they don't post soon then I'm going to have to just take them out of the game so everyone else doesn't have to wait around for them. The day will end in about 20 hours.

 

[Zhao_Yue1]

I dont think skunkbelly or Moar have posted yet today... Which must mean they're both zombies!!! But if they don't post soon then I'm going to have to just take them out of the game so everyone else doesn't have to wait around for them. The day will end in about 20 hours.

If you're going to use my zombie(TM) reference, as a minimum a little story has to accompany it. :azn:

 

[water_moon]

I'm told I'm quite paranoid at times in person too. Though be careful - that's Real Life experience there. :grin: (I'm poking fun at myself here, look forward to your next post)

It's not paranoia if they're really out to get you. And we have trains, teddy bears, and automobiles to prove they really are out to get us.

Too bad the long weekend wasn't any kinda weekend :undecided: And to be fair 'bus, Moar did say she'd be MIA on weekends. (and now RPing, to keep all you not-as-crazy-as-we-could-wish-but-slighty-more-paranoid folks from jumping all over things) She keeps going on holiday or holing up in her house, not that I can blame her what's happening to our pretty little town! (how suspicious)

Where are the police when you need them? One arrest and nothing more done! We need to recall the commishoner!


....You know, I just relized that the train kill may not have been mafia. A vigilante could just have easily tied some one to a set of tracks. Can it be safe to keep ASSuming that Brak isn't mafia?

Now Xduckster was explicitly a mafia kill. And he was voting for sint.

Brak was throwing votes around, and not for any of the top canidates when sint was a top canidate. Mater of fact, he voted for the guy who tallied the votes (and that was the reason for it), after another vote tied sint for the lynch lead. (posts 680-684)

VOTE: Sint

 

[Brak]

OT (I know I'm not supposed to post here sorry for being dead): Hey Rash and Zhao, saw you guys over at MS.net. I registered there after I got hooked on mafia too, using my old handle shaft.ed.

/OT

 

[skoolbus1]

OT (I know I'm not supposed to post here sorry for being dead): Hey Rash and Zhao, saw you guys over at MS.net. I registered there after I got hooked on mafia too, using my old handle shaft.ed.

/OT

I'm over there too, my name is 'charter' pm me there with you guys' if you're on there and we can do a game together.

Also, moar and skunkbelly, you have very little time before I replace you, Zhao has already volunteered, if someone else would like to play too, let me know by pm.

 

[Moar]

Sorry, internet went out sunday when I was about to post and was only back late last night. logged in from work now. I'll vote in some minutes, have to read the thread first.