OT: July 16th, 2005 HARRY POTTER SPOILER THREAD

Heheor it could the fact that it was an end of year project so i had an inbuilt hating for it. Animal Farm is a great read, also sometimes very disturbing, as in the cruelty at that time.

Back to Harry Potter, is there any proof that Snape has to be a man? Coz i was trying to fool my friends who hadn't read it, by saying that Snape was Voldemort's lover (ie he's a woman in disguise) and that he's been a spy the whole time. Having not read the last half of the last two books, I'm not sure whether this could happen or not.


-Slayer
 
Immortal_Slayer said:
Heheor it could the fact that it was an end of year project so i had an inbuilt hating for it. Animal Farm is a great read, also sometimes very disturbing, as in the cruelty at that time.

Back to Harry Potter, is there any proof that Snape has to be a man? Coz i was trying to fool my friends who hadn't read it, by saying that Snape was Voldemort's lover (ie he's a woman in disguise) and that he's been a spy the whole time. Having not read the last half of the last two books, I'm not sure whether this could happen or not.


-Slayer

that is just stupid. snape and voldemort aren't lovers. some of us maybe take this a little more seriously than others i guess.
 
Immortal_Slayer said:
Heheor it could the fact that it was an end of year project so i had an inbuilt hating for it. Animal Farm is a great read, also sometimes very disturbing, as in the cruelty at that time.

Back to Harry Potter, is there any proof that Snape has to be a man? Coz i was trying to fool my friends who hadn't read it, by saying that Snape was Voldemort's lover (ie he's a woman in disguise) and that he's been a spy the whole time. Having not read the last half of the last two books, I'm not sure whether this could happen or not.


-Slayer
That's the funniest thing I read in a long time. :thumbsup:

And Rowling broke the unwritten rule that Gryffindor must win the house cup every year (barring a triwizard tourney or something like that, but of course, Harry wins that too). I guess the series is maturing, in that way.
 
essojay said:
And Rowling broke the unwritten rule that Gryffindor must win the house cup every year (barring a triwizard tourney or something like that). I guess the series is maturing, in that way.
Okay, but why is it still that everybody who Harry doesn't like is "bad to the bone?" MacNair (the animal euthanasiast), the Malfoys, that freakish DADA teacher last year, Kreacher...
 
I only received a summary from my friends, so I'm wondering whether the reader's supposed to like Slughorn? Usually slytherin = omfg die plz ggkknptnxbai but he actually didn't seem to be made out as malicious as "all the Slytherins" are.
 
Horace Slughorn is a complex character. While he is a modern embodinement everything that Salazar Slytherin stood for, he shows us that not all who wear the Green and Silver are evil. We assume that he is pureblood, as most of those in Slytherin House are, but his great ambition is what shows us that he is meant to be a member of the reptilian house. Slughorn uses any means to achieve his desired ends, just like the Sorting Hat tells us a true Slytherin should in Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix.

Personally, I don't like Slughorn. He is a scheming and conniving buffoon who feels that using people is an acceptable way of ensuring he, himself, may be among those considered 'elite.' Yet at the same time, I do respect that of the two characteristics we know to describe Slytherins, he focuses on the better of the two: Ambition. This somewhat endears him to me, because I am an exceedingly ambitious person, myself. Therefore, though I don't like him, I must grudgingly accept and respect Horace Slughorn as a member of 'The Good Guys.'
 
I thought the book was excellent, even if a couple of things that happened really pissed me off... I guess if it was all marshmallows and dandelions she wouldnt have kept my attention so long.



Anywho, anyone care to guess as to who R.A.B. is?
 
killian27 said:
Anywho, anyone care to guess as to who R.A.B. is?

I thought that was obvious, it's Sirius's brother. We heard almost the complete story in book five.

Oh. and personally, I still trust Snape.
 
jjscud said:
Oh. and personally, I still trust Snape.

Funny, I also share the same sentiment...
There's something there that makes me feel as if it is really part of Dumbledore's deal with Snape.

But, then again, the part where it was described that Dumbledore's call to Snape sounded as if he was pleading was really disturbing... weird...

--maxgerin
 
maxgerin said:
But, then again, the part where it was described that Dumbledore's call to Snape sounded as if he was pleading was really disturbing... weird...

--maxgerin

Exactly, I don't think he would have to plead if all he wanted was a little help. I think he would only plead if it was something very serious he was asking. I think there were a few other hints too. Unfortunately I lent my book to my sister so I'll have to wait a couple days and then re-read the whole thing.
 
jjscud said:
I thought that was obvious, it's Sirius's brother. We heard almost the complete story in book five.

Oh. and personally, I still trust Snape.

My first thought was regulas as well. Obvious i dont know about, I do not believe we have been given enough information to know concretely that it is Regulas. Of course, I assumed snape was not the HBP, because it seemed to obvious.

Yes, the scene with Dumbledore and Snape still does not set well with me. I was convinced that it was all part of the ploy to keep the death-eaters trusting snape, and that Dumbldore was not dead at all... until of course he is found very much dead. I really wanted to believe that Snape was on the "good" side, as much as i hated him, I dont see how that is possible now. Dumbledore would not have sacrificed himself, just to keep up the rouse. It will be curious to see what Dumbledores picture in the headmasters office will have to say, and to see if fawkes will seek out harry as his new owner.
 
Book 7:

-- Find RAB (Regulus, probably)
-- Destroy at least there Horcruxes, maybe a 4th if RAB didn't do the job (or less, if RAB found more than one)
-- Confront Snape
-- Confront Voldemort

That's a tall order for one book, especially when you've got the love interests to work in (anyone think we've seen the last of Ginny? er, no), the Dursley's, etc. Gonna be a long one.
 
skunkbelly said:
Book 7:

-- Find RAB (Regulus, probably)
-- Destroy at least there Horcruxes, maybe a 4th if RAB didn't do the job (or less, if RAB found more than one)
-- Confront Snape
-- Confront Voldemort

That's a tall order for one book, especially when you've got the love interests to work in (anyone think we've seen the last of Ginny? er, no), the Dursley's, etc. Gonna be a long one.

Yup, it will have lots of side stories to add to that list.
But I don't think there will only 7 be books (or I'm just hoping).
Think about it... we believe it is 7 cause they must be in school for 7 years, right? But now, Harry (and the gang) decided to quit school even if it will re-open again. Hence, a chance to prolong the story. *wink wink* Well, I really hope so.

But, if the next installment will be the last, I wouldn't mind if it comes in two volumes cause it won't fit. Bring it on! Even if it has 2000 pages, if J.K. Rowling can do it properly, I wouldn't mind at all. :D

--maxgerin
 
maxgerin said:
Yup, it will have lots of side stories to add to that list.
But I don't think there will only 7 be books (or I'm just hoping).
Think about it... we believe it is 7 cause they must be in school for 7 years, right? But now, Harry (and the gang) decided to quit school even if it will re-open again. Hence, a chance to prolong the story. *wink wink* Well, I really hope so.

But, if the next installment will be the last, I wouldn't mind if it comes in two volumes cause it won't fit. Bring it on! Even if it has 2000 pages, if J.K. Rowling can do it properly, I wouldn't mind at all. :D

--maxgerin




Sounds good really, but she has said repeatedly that there would only be 7 books. She said recently that 7 would be about as long as HBP, but that she reserved the right to make it as long as OOTP if necessary. Cant be long enough IMO.
 
I've only bought the first two books, but when I get around to it I'll buy the rest.

I feel stupid, though, because I know when the last book comes out they're going to be selling "Complete Harry Potter Series Gold Platinum MegaPlus! Super Duper Special Edition" packages that include all seven books and other "goodies" a ne pas manquer. When I buy that I'll feel as though the money spent on the previous volumes separately have been wasted.
 
necrolemming said:
If Harry really isn't returning to Hogwarts, what'll the subtitle for the next book be?

Harry potter and the final battle?

I really really hope that it ends in book 7. Could be a little bit of a let down if she can't finish the story by then.
 
necrolemming said:
If Harry really isn't returning to Hogwarts, what'll the subtitle for the next book be?

If I'm not mistaken, I read (or watched) somewhere that Rowling already "reserved" (or Copyrighted) 7 or 8 titles for the series.
Does anyone know what the remain, or 2 remaining, titles are?

--maxgerin
 
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