Obi Wan Kenobi: The Necromancer (Maiden/Bone Armor + Pride)

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Obi Wan Kenobi: The Necromancer (Maiden/Bone Armor + Pride)

"If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you could possibly imagine."

Okay, so not strike me down, but strike me. I was looking at the Necromancer build guides, and was browsing through the fun builds, and I really liked the matador. Then I decided it would be cool to use a chance to cast when struck. Looking through the 1.10 runewords, I saw that Pride has a 25% chance to cast level 17 fire wall when struck.

So basically, my idea is to have as little defense as possible and let my enemies hit me. Absorb the damage with bone armor, and use Iron Maiden and Bramble on Merc to make the enemies fall to the floor, dead from their own attacks. With Pride, firewalls will be cast left and right, and with some plus fire skill damage gear, and infinity on merc, the firewalls will start to ramp up some damage.

What do you think? My goal would be to get through Hell without attacking anything myself. For elemental damagers, where there are no physical damagers nearby, I guess I would just cast amp damage and let my merc go to work.

What aura do you think would be best for the merc? Might, so his damage will be more? Does prayer give enough life to be worth it?

And I was thinking about using an Iron Golem made from Phoenix Weapon or Shield to get Redemption Aura.

Thoughts?

(Obviously I'm not looking for a godly build, just some fun, and o see if i could take down Hell with it)
 
Re: Obi Wan Kenobi: The Necromancer (Maiden/Bone Armor + Pride)

The Golem will get Redemption, not you.

I don't think it's gonna work out too well. Maiden + Thorns only gets one so far. And Firewall is already hard to aim, it wouldn't be very useful as a ctc.
 
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When it goes off, where would the firewall occur? Right on top of me? Or in some random place on the screen??

Because I was assuming it would go off right on top of me, and the monsters would also be on top of me constantly hitting me
 
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Re: Obi Wan Kenobi: The Necromancer (Maiden/Bone Armor + Pride)

Not to mention Firewall has a cast delay. During the delay you won't be able to do much of anything.
 
Re: Obi Wan Kenobi: The Necromancer (Maiden/Bone Armor + Pride)

Ya, but what would I be doing anyway? The point is to stand there and get hit lol
 
Re: Obi Wan Kenobi: The Necromancer (Maiden/Bone Armor + Pride)

Will the chance to cast go off if the casting delay is on? Can multiple firewalls go off in the same like 1 second time span?
 
Re: Obi Wan Kenobi: The Necromancer (Maiden/Bone Armor + Pride)

TheWorldEnds,

This reminds me of the old Iron Maiden/Blood Golem trick. A long time ago your Blood Golem used to leech life off of mobs that hit the golem while the mob was under the affliction of Iron Maiden. Subsiquently the player gained life from this setup as well. It was quite amusing to have your golem tank even the hardest hitting things with ease.

The problem comes when you end up in hell. Bone Armor will absorb only about 1000 damage while maxed and with maxed synergies. That's 60 skill points right there. Monsters in hell will do far more than 1000 damage. Even if they are only doing 200 damage each, if you get surrounded by more than a few monsters, you will start to need a TON of fast hit recovery gear AND fast cast in order to not get hit-locked to death and be able to cast a new spell.

I honestly don't see this working, but if you wish to try to make it work, I wish you the best of luck and would be interested to hear how it went!
 
Re: Obi Wan Kenobi: The Necromancer (Maiden/Bone Armor + Pride)

Thanks. As for the bone armor. The guy who made the "acrid axemancer" said bone armor worked for him. So that's really only 40 skill points, if I use "bone" runeword armor.

I basically need to know a few things. Does the firewall get cast where you get struck? Because that is what I want. If i go into a mob of monsters, I want them all to hit me, and then firewalls will get cast constantly on top of me. Because I figure more than one firewall would get cast a second, and it would quickly build up, and combine with my merc and the damage the monsters are receiving from their own damage.
 
Re: Obi Wan Kenobi: The Necromancer (Maiden/Bone Armor + Pride)

Okay, I'm just scrolling down this thread with skeptism, but if you prove me wrong and succeed, I'll definately shut my mouth and worship you. :d

Fire Wall is cast under the attacker who triggered it. Meaning if an archer, several yards away, attacks you and triggers the CtC, the Fire Wall will be under the archer. I assume the direction of the Fire Wall will be oriented parallel to the anterior/posterior of your Necromancer.

I'm not sure if this tidbit helps you, but I certainly hope it does. :)

Good luck.
 
Re: Obi Wan Kenobi: The Necromancer (Maiden/Bone Armor + Pride)

I think I'll add Andy's Visage for more damage. 40 points into poison explosion and dagger. I think it'd be fun to just sit there while monsters pounded on you and killed themselves.

(Obviously I could just cast Poison Nova myself, but where is the fun in that?)

So,

20 Bone Wall
20 Bone Prison
20 Poison Explosion
20 Poison Dagger
Rest in Iron Maiden
 
Re: Obi Wan Kenobi: The Necromancer (Maiden/Bone Armor + Pride)

TheWorldEnds said:
Thanks. As for the bone armor. The guy who made the "acrid axemancer" said bone armor worked for him. So that's really only 40 skill points, if I use "bone" runeword armor.
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As the guy you are talking about, yes...the Bone runeword works nicely.

But there several things that I think you will be disappointed with the build you are attempting.

First, don't bother making an iron golem out of Phoenix. The redemption aura is nice but it is NOT the main reason I wore that shield. The two main reasons I wore it were the 400% enhanced damage and the big fire sorb. You will not get either of those from making an iron golem.

Second, firewall will not do that much damage without synergies and it is not going to that effective for a CTC skill. It won't affect an entire group of monsters like poison nova does.

Third, your melee damage will not be very good with Pride. And Pride is a very slow weapon with no IAS.

Fourth, iron maiden and thorns don't work very well in PvM. Monsters have much higher life than the damage they inflict so they don't kill themselves quickly like other players do in PvP. If you are going to try this though...I would stack Thorns on an Act 1 merc with an Edge/Bramble combo.

If you do build this, keep us updated. Good luck.



 
Re: Obi Wan Kenobi: The Necromancer (Maiden/Bone Armor + Pride)

TheWorldEnds said:
Absorb the damage with bone armor, and use Iron Maiden and Bramble on Merc to make the enemies fall to the floor, dead from their own attacks.
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In order for Iron Maiden and Thorns to return damage, the Necromancer has to take damage: if Bone Armour prevents damage from being applied, then none is returned.

TheWorldEnds said:
Will the chance to cast go off if the casting delay is on? Can multiple firewalls go off in the same like 1 second time span?
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Delays aren't applied to skills cast by % Chance to Cast modifiers (although you may not be able to use your own skills briefly while they're cast). For example, when an Amazon casts Valkyrie (6 second delay), Fire Walls are still cast when she's struck before the delay expires: if Fire Walls are cast when struck, their delays aren't applied and thus they don't prevent the Amazon from casting Valkryie.


omgwtfbbqpwned said:
Fire Wall is cast under the attacker who triggered it. Meaning if an archer, several yards away, attacks you and triggers the CtC, the Fire Wall will be under the archer. I assume the direction of the Fire Wall will be oriented parallel to the anterior/posterior of your Necromancer.
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Fire Wall will be cast on the attacker, perpendicular to the line between the Necromancer and the attacker.


 
Re: Obi Wan Kenobi: The Necromancer (Maiden/Bone Armor + Pride)

Thanks Onder. But then why would that matador build be in the guides list? Whoever wrote that seems to think that the damage is applied but absorbed.
 
Re: Obi Wan Kenobi: The Necromancer (Maiden/Bone Armor + Pride)

^ The matador was written with the intent that no one would ever build one. :p

onderduiker said:
Fire Wall will be cast on the attacker, perpendicular to the line between the Necromancer and the attacker.
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Potato, potato. :p
 
Re: Obi Wan Kenobi: The Necromancer (Maiden/Bone Armor + Pride)

To be like Obi Wan you really need to lift a claymore with light-greenish look ^^
 
Re: Obi Wan Kenobi: The Necromancer (Maiden/Bone Armor + Pride)

So if bone armor absorbs the damage, does it count as being struck for ctc purposes?
 
Re: Obi Wan Kenobi: The Necromancer (Maiden/Bone Armor + Pride)

TheWorldEnds said:
So if bone armor absorbs the damage, does it count as being struck for ctc purposes?
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It counts as a strike. Also, even though you are wielding a shield, a blocked hit also counts as being struck.



 
Re: Obi Wan Kenobi: The Necromancer (Maiden/Bone Armor + Pride)

omgwtfbbqpwned said:
^ The matador was written with the intent that no one would ever build one. :p

Potato, potato. :p
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Actually, I wrote the 'fun-themed' builds for FUN. I've tried out several of them and yes, they were a hoot on normal difficulty. Higher levels were 'problematic' to put it euphemistically and I wouldn't try them unless I was with a party that was more effective.

But otherwise, a big :thumbup: for willing to give it a go!

-Patsy
"Aziz! Light!"



 
Re: Obi Wan Kenobi: The Necromancer (Maiden/Bone Armor + Pride)

But of course. I am a universal constant, like the speed of light or the electron mass/charge ratio.

Anyway, it's nice to see that somebody's having fun with my 'silly' builds.:alright:

Anyway, back to the subject of this thread, the reason why there's AD as a curse for this is to remove the physical immune as well as LR to remove other sorts of immunity with the bone armour to take the hits (and not you, that would be bad) and the monsters to literally beat themselves to death.

Ole`!

-Patsy
"I'm on a Mexican radio..."
 
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