Need some HC Amazon advice

KremBanan

KremBanan

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Need some HC Amazon advice

Im mostly gonna do cows, with a touch of Shenk, Eldricht, Portal Guy in A5 and Pits.

I was thinking this setup:
Walkyrie Ving
Titans
Stormshield
Razortail
Raven
BK3
Mara
3/20 gloves or rare 2/20/mods
Silkwaves
Anni
Torch
Insight Merc

My question is on the armor, what would be more suitable:
Treachery
I get total 50%dr and if I socket the helm and shield with 15ias(/1xallres) I reach the 89ias breakpoint
Gloom
10str, 45allres and ok defense
Prudence
~35Alllres, very nice defence, 25FHR, mdr17 and nice 2maek(will go nicely with helm and boots)
Lionhart
30Allres, 50life, 20vita, 25str, 15dex and 10energy.

Wich one to choose?
And is 50%dr and 89ias 'needed' or is it overkill PvM?
This is a legit build, so no CoH etc, but budget isnt an issue.
 
KremBanan said:
Im mostly gonna do cows, with a touch of Shenk, Eldricht, Portal Guy in A5 and Pits.

Which one to choose?
And is 50%dr and 89ias 'needed' or is it overkill PvM?
This is a legit build, so no CoH etc, but budget isnt an issue.
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Gear really depends on how you're going to tackle lightning immunes but
I'd mention duress and stone as armour options. Are you intending to do all those runs without any magic find whatsoever?



 
I always liked 'Duress', Highlord's, and Gores for uber Jabbiness on those light immunes. Also 'Sanctuary' shield rather than Stormshield... all that %DR seems redundant when you've already got max block and D/A/E. It may be nice to have in cows, but anywhere else you'll probably wish you had a little more resists.
 
I was planning on facing minimum numbers of light immunes. Not many in LI in the places I mentioned, the few LI I face, my merc and Valkyrie can handle(I hope:))

Also how would Demons Arch and Tiamats shield work on switch for LI/PI?

Are you intending to do all those runs without any magic find whatsoever?
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That was my idea, I might throw in some mf-scs.
 
Treachery rocks. SS is over-rated, especially on a Javazon. I'd go with Sanctuary in a Hyperion, because Hyperions look so cool (just ask PT). There are also so many better boot options than Silkweaves. Aldur's, Treks, Travs, and many Rares. Also, if you need some extra IAS, Andy's Visage is nice.

I'd also get yourself a damage dealing switch for CSing down single enemies - Tstrokes + a faceted shield of deflecting works.
 
Full_Circle said:
Treachery rocks. SS is over-rated, especially on a Javazon. I'd go with Sanctuary in a Hyperion, because Hyperions look so cool (just ask PT). There are also so many better boot options than Silkweaves. Aldur's, Treks, Travs, and many Rares. Also, if you need some extra IAS, Andy's Visage is nice.

I'd also get yourself a damage dealing switch for CSing down single enemies - Tstrokes + a faceted shield of deflecting works.
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Im now leaning towards Sanctuary after some advice. But I think I will go for Tower Shield, lower str reqs and same block.

The reason I go for Silkweaves, is the maek. Im not going to have lots of manaleech on this, so maek would suit me nice, along the maek on Walkyrie Ving. For Andariels I would need an expensive and possibly duped 15ias/30fr jewel and that aint gonna happen here.

A faceted shield of deflecting also sounds very duped, so nn that.



 
I wouldnt worry too much on the ias, javazons kill everything fast enough anyway. Also, having high defence armors wont help much if you use a holy freeze merc since zons dont have any defense enhancers.

Id use treachery + holy freeze. The dr and curse reduction as well as resists are really nice defensive bonuses. And holy freeze is good all around.

Stormshield and sanctuary both rock, sanctuary gives very nice resists and has a low dex rec for max block(thanks to its included +20dex), stormshield has the awesome 35% dr. Str rec is practically the same (if you put on stormshield with the str bug like you should). Personally id go with stormshield, since your resists already seem to be covered nicely, but the extra damage reduction on stormshield is awesome.

Your anni is probably got by selling duped sojs so.. well up you you weather you wanna use it.. I wouldnt :prop:
 
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Full_Circle said:
I'd go with Sanctuary in a Hyperion, because Hyperions look so cool (just ask PT).
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ugly shield ftw~
Hyperion is medium weight, Troll Nest is light. Pwnt kthx.


I still don't understand the need for maek when you've got an Insight Merc. One or the other (i.e. give your Merc Reaper's instead).

I don't think he meant JMoD, just any shopped deflecting shield with sockets filled with whatever lightning facets you can get your hands on. An hour or so of shopping Charsi in Hell will probably net you an Artisan's/Jeweler's Tower/Kite Shield of Deflecting. Heck, you could even forego the shopping altogether and just use a plain socketed shield; not much need for max block when you're just taking out a single monster or even a boss as lame as Baal.



 
KremBanan said:
Im now leaning towards Sanctuary after some advice. But I think I will go for Tower Shield, lower str reqs and same block.

The reason I go for Silkweaves, is the maek. Im not going to have lots of manaleech on this, so maek would suit me nice, along the maek on Walkyrie Ving. For Andariels I would need an expensive and possibly duped 15ias/30fr jewel and that aint gonna happen here.

A faceted shield of deflecting also sounds very duped, so nn that.
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Silkweaves when you have insight is overkill. All you need is a decent sized mana pool, and Insight takes care of the rest (25+ life/50+mana GCs aren't too hard to get). Aldur's Boots would give you 50% fire res, a good chunk of life, and more than make up for the loss of FR on Andy's Visage.

The shield I used on switch was a Jeweler's Gothic of Deflection, self shopped, with 3/-3, 3/-4, and 4/-4 facets in it. Two of the facets came from trusted sources and were definitely not duped, and the other was 3/-3. Who in their right mind would dupe a 3/-3 facet? In fact, I'd say just about any low facet you can pick up has a pretty good chance of being legit.

Anyway... the only lightning immunes that will be an issue are gloams (which are also poison immune). Treachery takes care of the rest. Venom absolutely demolishes everything in 4 or lower player games. If you don't plan to Baal or solo 5+ player games, I wouldn't worry too much about immunes. I'm not saying to go into areas with tons of lightning immunes for the heck of it, but a few here or there (Pits, for example) won't bother you.

PhatTrumpet said:
ugly shield ftw~
Hyperion is medium weight, Troll Nest is light. Pwnt kthx.
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Cool looking and 15% sup > light.



 
My preference is a Spirit Monarch. It's heavy as heck but easy to make (or trade for a low fcr) but I like the +2 all skills. The mana, vitality and resists are all sweet and the 55% FHR is nice when CSing bosses.
 
zrk said:
Your anni is probably got by selling duped sojs so.. well up you you weather you wanna use it.. I wouldnt :prop:
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This is a debated topic. Some say no(like you) and others say yes, because if you are lucky to be in a game where SoJ counter starts its ok. As long as it isnt you that is selling Sojs. I say yes:)
PhatTrumpet said:
I still don't understand the need for maek when you've got an Insight Merc. One or the other (i.e. give your Merc Reaper's instead).
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In cows, my merc tends to get in the way, when I herd the cows. Thats why I planned on getting maek. Insight merc is for when Im not in cows.
Full_Circle said:
Silkweaves when you have insight is overkill. All you need is a decent sized mana pool, and Insight takes care of the rest (25+ life/50+mana GCs aren't too hard to get). Aldur's Boots would give you 50% fire res, a good chunk of life, and more than make up for the loss of FR on Andy's Visage.
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Aldurs are nice boots, lots of frw also, good for herding cows. But as said, I was planning for no merc in cows.
SirDooFuss said:
My preference is a Spirit Monarch. It's heavy as heck but easy to make (or trade for a low fcr) but I like the +2 all skills. The mana, vitality and resists are all sweet and the 55% FHR is nice when CSing bosses.
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I considered Spirit also, but I liked the defensive mods on Sanctuary better(since its hardcore), but it got ofc def mods nice res, mana etc. NO max block with Spirit.




Hmm, I thought I had a plan on how my ama should look like in HC :laugh: , but now Im not sure anymore:scratch: .


How does your HC-Java look like?



 
Annis were invented for selling of duped sojs. In fact, its safe to say EVERY anni came from selling duped sojs... hard to say whether or not to use it.

I'd say you dont need 50% DR if you go max block, and high def isnt a big deal.

my ama is using something like

Rare circlet (+2 w/ +res)
Najs Light Plate
Rare ammy (+1 w/ +res)
Credendum
Bloodfist
The ward
Raven frost
Scintilating ring of perfection
Tearhaunch
and Bloodfists

She's super ghetto but works just fine. Kills non LI's fast enough, nearly maxed res in hell w/o hell anya.

If I were to change anything I would want a 2 pdiamond mosers for better block and more res, and a razortail. Really tho amas dont need that many skill points, and with insight they dont need to worry about any mpk either.

One sexy shield would be a 3 socket headhunters glory troll nest, also.

In the end theres so many options for javazons, and most of them work. Just remember that FHR is probably one of the more important stats and your initial post had none of it. So I would suggest some of that.
 
KremBanan said:
My original plan with FHR was using Walkyrie Ving(20FHR)+Threachery(20FHR) and a 12FHR grand charm or 3 scs.
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oh yeah, i forgot valk wing had 20 fhr. nevermind then, your setup looked fine. I would say going with mosers though instead of SS would be good... or any of the other suggestions would be fine too.



 
It seems like Im stuck on the choices here:
All are with Walkyrie Ving sox ias/res, 20ias gloves, Titans, low Mara, Raven etc

Treachery+SS = 89ias bp(with jewels), 52fhr(with charm), 150coldres, 85lightres, 60fireres, 60psnres, 50%dr, max block

Treachery+Sanctuary = 52ias bp, 52fhr bp(with charm), 140-160coldres, 110-130allres, 15%dr, max block

Treachery+Mosers = 89ias bp, 52fhr(with charm), 115coldres, 85allres, 15%dr max block

Treachery+Spirit = 52ias bp, 86fhr bp, 125coldres, 95lightres, 95psnres, 60fireres, 22vita, 100~mana and 2skills, 15%dr, no max block



Lionhart+SS = 30ias bp, 32fhr bp(with charm), 90coldres, 55lightres, 30allres, 50life/55str/10ene/20vit/15dex -> lots of life, 35%dr, max block

Lionhart+Sanctuary = 30ias bp, 52fhr(with charm), 80-100allres, 50life/25str/10ene/20vit/35dex -> lots of life, max block

Lionhart+Mosers = 52ias bp(with jewels), 32fhr bp(with charm), 55allres, 25str/10ene/20vit/15dex/50life - lots of life, max block

Lionhart+Spirit = 30ias bp, 52fhr bp, 75coldres, 75lightres, 75psnres, 30fireres, 25str/10ene/20vit/15dex/50life -> lots of life, 100~mana, + 2skills, no max block
 
Treachery + Sanc and pump Vit to make up the life...Breakpoints are good, Max Block is good and Resistances matter so all bases are well covered...not to mention you will look sexy with Fade on :tongue:
 
That i did but (a) You ignored my suggestion and (b) After seeing the stats overview you brainstormed i chose my pick of the list as to what i like to see on a Java...
 
Oh, I thought I had replied you suggestion, sry bout that, Im not normally rude :smiley:

I thought of prebuffing, but after I thought about it I found out that I dont really like prebuffing. Mostly because Im lazy :laugh:
 
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