lycanders bow dmg...well maybe

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corax1

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lycanders bow dmg...well maybe

all uneven figures are rounded to no decimal places
1.weapon speed= lycanders aim automatically puts me at 3fpa for strafe? however when upgraded i can hit the 2fpa breakpoint with 40% ias. say 20 gloves and shael in weapon. is the 2fpa breakpoint the buggy one where you miss most shots against single monsters? is it worth hitting this BP?

2.damage= 19-41 min/max(ceremonial bow)+ 197%ED, +25 min damage, +50 max damage= the min/max is applied first right?.
= 87-179 damage. which isnt the same as the 81 to 171(126 av dmg) damage listed in atma. what did i do wrong?

3. upgraded damage= 14-72 min/max(matriarch bow)+ 197%ED, +25 min dmg, +50 max dmg
= 77-240 dmg(159 av dmg)

4. strafe= 3/4 weapon dmg. 100%ed at lvl 20(included +skills from lycanders) and 100 dex(100%ED)
= dex would be applied first? then cut to 3/4? then 100%ed added?
just going to use max dmg for simplicity as im confusing myself
unupgraded= ED is added to the base right? so it would be (41+50max)= 91 dmg+297%ED= 270dmg
=270/4(x3)= 203 max+100ed% from strafe= 405 max dmg

upgraded= same working (72+50)= 122 dmg+297%ED= 362 dmg
= 362/4(x3)= 272 max dmg +100%ed from strafe= 544 max dmg

544 max compared to 405 max. this gap would increase with higher dex, a might merc and higher lvl strafe

is it worth upgraded for the xtra BP(if it isnt bugged) and the damage increase. or are the runes better off saved?


now for something completely different: slvl 8 and 17 are the levels where a valk gets the new weapons arent they? :lol:
 
Lycander's Aim
[highlight]Ceremonial Bow[/highlight]
Two-Hand Damage: 81-171 (126 avg)
Required Level: 42
Required Strength: 73
Required Dexterity: 110
Base Weapon Speed: [10]
(Amazon Only)
+197% Enhanced Damage
Adds 25-50 Damage
20% Increased Attack Speed
+2 To Amazon Skill Levels
5-8% Mana Stolen Per Hit (varies)
+20 To Energy
+20 To Dexterity
+20% Enhanced Defense
+2 To Bow And Crossbow Skills (Amazon Only)

Lycander's Aim
[highlight]Grand Matron Bow[/highlight]
Two-Hand Damage: 66-263 (164.5 avg)
Required Level: 65
Required Strength: 108
Required Dexterity: 152
Base Weapon Speed: [10]
(Amazon Only)
+197% Enhanced Damage
Adds 25-50 Damage
20% Increased Attack Speed
+2 To Amazon Skill Levels
5-8% Mana Stolen Per Hit (varies)
+20 To Energy
+20 To Dexterity
+20% Enhanced Defense
+2 To Bow And Crossbow Skills (Amazon Only)


As you can see, the base weapon speed is the same.

IIRC Valk gets a rare war pike at level 17.
 
I was led to believe that regardless up or not, the base speed will remine same (same type of bow always has same base speed???). So up won't bring you any speed increase. Can anyone clear this?

I'd up the bow if it really hit 2frame break point.
 
woopsy i upgraded it to the wrong item. and on checking the 2fpa is 100% ias off. so not going to even try for that.
thanks toppo :thumbsup:
 
From personal experience I can tell you that it is *not* worth the upgrade. Your killing speed will be just as painfully slow with the grand matron bow as it was with the ceremonial bow. Strafe doesn't seem to be meant to be a kill skill in the current patch.
 
Lycander's Aim just isn't a very good bow for a strafer. Slow, and the
mods aren't terribly useful either.

Get yourself a Witchwild String, put two shaels in it, and then get 46% IAS
somewhere else in your gear, and then strafe away. You'll be amazed what
a 9/2 strafe with nearly 100% critical strike/deadly strike and with Amplify
Damage can do. Add a might merc and some decent other gear, and
you can handle anything the game sends your way. May not be as fast
as other characters, but still very viable.

edit: Althekiller beat me to the punch ;)
 
AlTheKiller said:
Maybe that's just because you haven't used a WWS.
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Nope, that's because I compare strafe using WF to good skills using mediocre items. :P


Also, I never said you couldn't beat the game with strafe. You can beat it with pretty much everything imaginable. All I'm saying is that strafe is **** when compared to other offensive skills.
 
Nightfish said:
All I'm saying is that strafe is **** when compared to other offensive skills.
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I'm going to have to dissagree on that. As for as equipment based skills, strafe is one of the best. That is, you cannot kill very quickly with random bow you pick up from Jamela, as you can with staff bought from Ormus. But strafe hits a lot of things very fast. Sure, it is underpowered compared to a Burito-zon in 1.09 just housing games like "cowzkillerz," but there are a lot of cow builds that were overpowered (read: "CE, IG, IM necro")
 
Nightfish said:
Also, I never said you couldn't beat the game with strafe. You can beat it with pretty much everything imaginable. All I'm saying is that strafe is **** when compared to other offensive skills.
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Tell that to my zon. She full cleared the Pits at p8 in a few minutes. :scratch: (And I didn't use a windforce or a witchy. :p )
 
Nightfish said:
Also, I never said you couldn't beat the game with strafe. You can beat it with pretty much everything imaginable. All I'm saying is that strafe is **** when compared to other offensive skills.
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Hmm, I guess fend, jab, stun, bash all beat strafe when it comes to killing monsters :lol:

To get back on-topic,

I believe the valk gets a rare lance at lvl 9 and a rare war pike at lvl 17. That's inclusive with +skills so you can actually prebuff your valk. Mods also differ each time so you can cast your valk with chance to cast amp damage which more or less speeds up your killing power.
 
hmmmm. so is strafing using a lycanders going to kill in hell? is it worth it to upgrade? the main reason im using this bow over the others is because tis graphic on the zon looks so much cooler than other bows.:teeth: i know im a nub. but i like my chars too look cool
 
corax said:
hmmmm. so is strafing using a lycanders going to kill in hell? is it worth it to upgrade? the main reason im using this bow over the others is because tis graphic on the zon looks so much cooler than other bows.:teeth: i know im a nub. but i like my chars too look cool
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Not, the upgrade isn't worth the rune. Just compare the damage, you don't get much from the up.
 
Summoned said:
Tell that to my zon. She full cleared the Pits at p8 in a few minutes. :scratch: (And I didn't use a windforce or a witchy. :p )
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I wouldn't mind hearing this amazing feat.
 
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