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Infinity Melee Sorc or Dragon/Dragon

Anyone ever made a melee sorc wearing infinity GT?

I was looking at its 50% chance to cast chain lightning when you kill an enemy. Has anyone ever maxed its synergies and lightning mastery. I was thinking going werebear, wearing dream helm, infinity giant thresher, and maybe ormus robes or something. Attack speed could only get to 10fpa (Faith merc), but once you start killing a couple enemies, chain lightning will start flying everywhere. Will nextdelay kill this idea? Or could it work?

I'm looking for a fun build to play, and am thinking along the chance to cast lines. My other idea was to strap on a phase blade with 5 shaels, and use dragon armor/shield. Max fire mastery, hydra's two synergies, enchant, and warmth. Turn into a werebear, and go to town on some biatches. 5fpa attack speed = 5 attacks a second. You have two items that give 12% chance to cast Hydra. Hydra's would start popping up all over the place. Infinity merc + a 5/5 fire facet in the phase blade, and maybe a CoA with 2 5/5 fire facets... Could be fun.

What do you guys think?
 
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I think it might just work, at level 20 its about half a full on Chain Lightning, but with Dream too should be plenty of damage.
20 Lightning
20 Charged Bolt
20 Nova
20 Lightning Mastery
rest Telekenisis?

There is a similiar concept in the Necro Forums, a guy using Breath of the Dying and Poison Nova, but he also has CtC Bone Armour for defence.
 
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Ya, he's actually what got me thinking. I also have ideas for a druid with ctc firestorm from phoenix, and tornado and frozen orb from rift. The problem is rift has no ias, so even in werewolf form, the best the druid can get is 8fpa and i don't know if he'd be shooting the orbs, nados, and firestorms out quickly enough.


Anyways, what I like about infinity is it is chance to cast when you kill an enemy, so once they start dieing, it doesn't matter what your attack speed is.

What do you think of the hydra idea? They'd be level 15 hydras, fully synergized and with max fire mastery, and with two 12% ctcs and 5fpa, pretty certain you'd be getting one every second. And then a fully amped enchant plus minimal damage from a level 28 Holy Fire helped by fire mastery.

By the way, does hellfire's "firestorm" do any decent damage when backed with fire mastery?
 
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You're probably better off spamming Nova instead of whacking stuff. It probably would be a fun build indeed.
 
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What do you think the optimum equipment would be for the infinity melee build?

(I need 45 oIAS for 10fpa with Faith Merc)

Weapon: Infinity Giant Thresher
Armor: ? (Ormus? Fortitude for some physical damage bonus? If I did a non runeword, I could put a 40/15 in for the extra 15% ias so I could use Dracul's)
Helm: Dream
Switch: CTA/Spirit

Belt: Nosferatu's Coil
Gloves: I'd really like Dracul's Grasp for survivability, but i don't know where I'd make up the IAS. Other than that, 20% ias gloves
Boots: Gore Riders

Amulet: Highlords
Ring: Bul-Kathos
Ring: Raven

Inventory: Anni, Hellfire, Lightning Grand Charms, Beast Beserker Axe

A1 Cold Merc:

Weapon: Faith
Armor: ?
Helm: ?


What are the FHR breakpoints for Sorcs in bear form?

Is it worth the extra few points to get enchant, for AR? Or will Fanat + Conviction be good enough
 
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20 Lightning
20 Charged Bolt
20 Nova
20 Lightning Mastery

1 Static Field
1 Thunder Storm
1 Telekinesis
1 Chain Lightning
1 Energy Shield
1 Frozen Armor

86 points, leaving a few left over. is it better to go energy shield, or telekinesis?


Cast Frozen Armor and Energy Shield. Go out into the wild. Cast Thunderstorm. Turn into werebear. Start the slaughter.
 
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And get slaughtered. No synergized ES = junk. Don't get it at all.

Ormus would be a very poor armor choice. It's equivalent to +1 light mastery. If you want more light dmg, go with CoH. +CL won't help since it's a CtC.

Life tap would probably be mandatory for survival, so Drac's are a must. With 14/15 fana, you only need 22% IAS for that. It means you don't even need more IAS with Highlord's + Nosferatu's.

But as I said, meleeing like this will be very awkward: you don't have Passion's zeal. Your AR will suck so that 1 pt in Enchant is important. Using Nova to kill and trigger the CtC CL would be much more realistic. But if a "special" build is what you want, go ahead and melee :P
 
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TheWorldEnds said:
Anyone ever made a melee sorc wearing infinity GT?
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Not with GT, but with Thresher. But I only melee against Baal (even full game goes down fast) and Against Lister (if still immune after conv).
With lvl 43 enchant I have good damage, so Baal goes gown fast. Lvl20 BO gives 2.1k life, no energyshield. All resist max.

Against full game Lister (when fire+lightning immune after conv) merc has problems killing it fast (full game Lister regereates lire pretty fast), but couple hits with Infy (gives Prevent Monster Heal) and Lister goes down fast.


Melee builds around Infy, Infy-kicker assa is very fast. Gives very fast attack and huge crush blow and almost 95% hit. And death sentry kills minions, so kicking bosses is enough. And traps/blade fury kills IM-knights, so no IM problem with that melee char. One of the fastest chaos runner I have ever build. No immune problems, unbreakable are easy to kick down etc...



 
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You're putting it in the IAS right? And not the weapon IAS?

Because I'm getting 45 ias and its to get to 10fpa haha
 
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Your two biggest issues are going to be Attack Rating(AR), and surviveability. You have no shield, and no reason to buy Dex appart from AR. You might want to look at Metal Grind or Angelics for AR. Your Act 1 Faith Merc will help.

With 12 skills from quests you get 102 points at lvl 90, with 86 in the build you sugest that leaves, 16 points for Telekenisis, which is a good amount. You can prebuff your Energy Shield with a Memmory staff (+3 ES staff with 4 Socs).

Check this out for advice on ES:
How to make Energy Shield work for you
Please leave a comment if its helpful.

You are really going to need Faster Hit recovery too. otherwise you'll get rushed and locked up then die.

When i was building my Fire Claws Druid with a 5 fpa Shaeled Phase blade i was advised against using Pheonix, apparently the Firestorm interupts too much. My Amazon can't use a Torch because of Firestorm casting too often either - it crashes the game, so i would be careful with that one.

I know that Holy Fire is no where near as effective as Holy Shock, the Hydras would be cool but again Fire Mastery is not as effective as Lightning Mastery, and the Synergies for Hydra aren't great either. I think you Chain Lightning / Infinity idea would deal allot more damage.
 
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There is no WIAS for 2 handers. WIAS only differs from off-weapon IAS when dual wielding and in wereform.
 
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I know. That's why i keep the weapon ias at 0. I put IAS into the IAS tab that has skill below it.
 
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Renegade, you don't think fanat + conviction will be enough?

And Scud, i finally realized. You have the sorc as normal. I said I'd shapeshift werebear.
 
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You need 118 Dex for you Thresher, with a Raven, Fana + Conviction it might be enough. you can always swap out the highlords for a metalgrind later.

You might want to consider a Jewellers Armour of the Mammoth, and put some IAS / resist jewels in it. Expensive but it helps allot of your build requirements.

Attack Rating:
118 * 4 = 472
+ Raven
around 700

Fanatacism 250%
=2450 AR

Looks a bit low but try it and see. You have to make those initial kills to start your chain of chain lightnings!
 
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Where can I find FHR break points for Sorc in bear form?

And Renegade, do you think it would be worth the points for Enchant?
 
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renegademaster said:
You might want to consider a Jewellers Armour of the Mammoth, and put some IAS / resist jewels in it. Expensive but it helps allot of your build requirements.
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Uhh...

Ever tried Treachery? :)

And in Wereform you'd miss out some cool sorc skills, namely Nova, Teleport and Telekinesis :P

Quite a bit melees would kill to have a handy tele... just look at those telezons and sins with DFlight.


 
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