I'm looking to make a powerfull dagger class

[SpaceFalcon]

I'm looking to make a powerfull dagger class

I don't know why but I just love dagger users in games. :wink3:

I have a few daggers in my storage from nm diablo runs. And um I guess it wont be great but probably fun.

What do you suggest? Dagggernecro is the obvious choice but is there another option because I dislike the necro class, or Zon with only passives? O_O

 

[Merick1]

Barb without mastery. Pallies are slow with daggers, but it's still a possiblity. Assassins can use them with TS, and venom sounds cool with a dagger.

 

[Frosty_The_Snowman]

Pallies are slow with daggers

I don't agree, daggers are pretty fast weapons ([-10] or [-20] speed for elite ones). I've been using a Fleshripper for a long time against the Ãœber-Three, very succesfully, before I finally rolled a perfect 370% eDeath BA to replace it :grin:... Fleshripper is a wonderful weapon, and cheap btw :smiley:.

 

[Merick1]

I don't agree, daggers are pretty fast weapons ([-10] or [-20] speed for elite ones). I've been using a Fleshripper for a long time against the Ãœber-Three, very succesfully, before I finally rolled a perfect 370% eDeath BA to replace it :grin:... Fleshripper is a wonderful weapon, and cheap btw :smiley:.

The last breakpoint cannot be reached with zeal with pallies. I'm pretty sure daggers are the only one-handed weapon like that. I had a really awesome rare dagger early one ladder season, but it was pretty slow.

 

[adecoy]

do throwing daggers count? :grin:

 

[Xenon[XoA]]

I don't agree, daggers are pretty fast weapons ([-10] or [-20] speed for elite ones). I've been using a Fleshripper for a long time against the Ãœber-Three, very succesfully, before I finally rolled a perfect 370% eDeath BA to replace it :grin:... Fleshripper is a wonderful weapon, and cheap btw :smiley:.

Perfect Death's 385% base, 400 if 15% sup.

to the op-
You could always make a wizspike sorci. Wiz's + Spectral shards are way kooh.

 

[Frosty_The_Snowman]

The last breakpoint cannot be reached with zeal with pallies. I'm pretty sure daggers are the only one-handed weapon like that.

Where did you get that info (link please) :scratch: ?

Try Google and type "Diablo2 weapon speed calculator". You'll get the following numbers :

Phase Blade [-60] :
Zeal : 4 fps breakpoint reached with 72% ias
Smite : 6 fps breakpoint reached with 65% ias

Fanged Knife [-20] :
Zeal : 4 fps breakpoint reached with 102% ias
Smite : 6 fps breakpoint reached with 92% ias

Perfect Death's 385% base, 400 if 15% sup.

Then the Arreat Summit is wrong :shocked: ?

http://www.battle.net/diablo2exp/items/runewords-110.shtml

Where did you get this info (link please) :scratch: ?

 

[IntelligentX]

Then the Arreat Summit is wrong :shocked: ?

http://www.battle.net/diablo2exp/items/runewords-110.shtml

Where did you get this info (link please) :scratch: ?

Yeah Arreat is wrong on some stats of some items.
In some times ago it is right, but don't know why they put some wrong value in it.
IIRC there is a program called AS to go and it shows true value of the variables.

 

[Merick1]

Where did you get that info (link please) :scratch: ?

Try Google and type "Diablo2 weapon speed calculator". You'll get the following numbers :

Phase Blade [-60] :
Zeal : 4 fps breakpoint reached with 72% ias
Smite : 6 fps breakpoint reached with 65% ias

Fanged Knife [-20] :
Zeal : 4 fps breakpoint reached with 102% ias
Smite : 6 fps breakpoint reached with 92% ias

Then the Arreat Summit is wrong :shocked: ?

http://www.battle.net/diablo2exp/items/runewords-110.shtml

Where did you get this info (link please) :scratch: ?

I'm pretty sure a stat guru said it somewhere, but I can't find it. :undecided:
And yeah, Death's stats are listed incorrectly.

 

[Frosty_The_Snowman]

Yeah Arreat is wrong on some stats of some items.
In some times ago it is right, but don't know why they put some wrong value in it.
IIRC there is a program called AS to go and it shows true value of the variables.

Thanks for the info, I've found this 385 value on another D2 website. You learn something everyday :thumbsup: !

 

[nickedoff]

Dagger zon or dagger barbarian.
That's what I'd do.

 

[Nubikoen]

Dual Fleshripper Whirler barb. Win combo.

 

[Veilside]

Perfect Death's 385% base, 400 if 15% sup.

to the op-
You could always make a wizspike sorci. Wiz's + Spectral shards are way kooh.

Aye i rolled a 376ed death warspike on a non superior eth warspike so 385 is the correct perfect value.

 

[Eilo Rytyj]

Dagger zon, very powerful if used right. I made one a while ago, she survived just fine in act 2 hell with a Stormspike.

Probably something like max Valk, Penetrate and Inner Sight, rest of points in Dodge/Avoid/Evade/Critical Strike. Focus on gear with CB, OW and DS. Fleshripper or perhaps a "Fury" runeword in a Fanged Knife for an end-game weapon, Duress, Gores, Highlords, Guill's/Andy's/Tal's helm, etc, etc. Throwing knives (e.g. rares with Fool's, of Quickness, Warshrikes) on switch for dealing with tough melee monsters while Valk, Decoy and Merc tank for you. Poison damage charms work well, especially with the throwing knives.

Use Inner Sight to reduce monster def, for almost 95% to hit on most monsters. Zons can get up to a 7 frame normal attack with daggers.

Surprisingly, it's a very good tank, with max block, and high level D/A/E, she can survive a beating better than most barbs or pallys.

 

[Cope]

The best weapon for a sorc in Classic is a dagger.

 

[Eilo Rytyj]

The best weapon for a sorc in Classic is a dagger.

true, the Spectral Shard is the best sorc weapon in Classic, but sorc's don't use it to attack, just to aid their casting and what-not. I think the op is looking for an attacking class that uses daggers as main weapons. As i posted above, IMO an amazon best fits this.

 

[Cope]

I agree with you, I just figured I would point that out as well.

 

[WebDragon]

I agree with you, I just figured I would point that out as well.

OMG, shameless classic plug! Reported!!