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Yarr, what is these days - FB dupzors, vajar admits using a maphack (only a no pickup and a MF display feature, but still). What's going to happen next?

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Why can't he just make a restart? Yes, damage is done, but it's repairable, because as far as I have seen he doesn't trade that much, and doesn't MP to often.
 
Nacaa said:
I'm quite sure that if this wasn't FBob, you wouldn't say that. What if it was a newcomber who had been around for a month and confessed he hacked. Would you give him another chance? Probably not.

If FBob don't get banned due to this, I will be greatly surprised. I wonder if he would have confessed this if we didn't notice the Silence Hydra Bow or if he would have continued on as long as he could.

No, he doesn't deserve a second chance.

I agree. I am a newcomer around here, and it is dissapointing to see this happen. FB has quite a reputation and stigma about him. He is seen as a "forum elder", someone to learn from and look up to for us newbies. There are rules for this forum and they have been broken in this case. It is unfortunate, and I wish FB all the best in the future. Honestly it's just a game, it's not like he robbed a bank. But rules are rules, for senior or new. Best wishes in your real life!
 
Nacaa said:
I'm quite sure that if this wasn't FBob, you wouldn't say that. What if it was a newcomber who had been around for a month and confessed he hacked. Would you give him another chance? Probably not.

If FBob don't get banned due to this, I will be greatly surprised. I wonder if he would have confessed this if we didn't notice the Silence Hydra Bow or if he would have continued on as long as he could.

No, he doesn't deserve a second chance.

Did you beleived him when he found his zod? If yes, would you beleive if it was me that found it? I don't think so, because i'm new here. So we think the same.
The world has always been this way. You can't trust the same thing to diferent persons.
 
MFMOFO said:
Did you beleived him when he found his zod? If yes, would you beleive if it was me that found it? I don't think so, because i'm new here. So we think the same.
The world has always been this way. You can't trust the same thing to diferent persons.

Actually I would. I believed FBob (I didn't think anything bad of him until the hacked hydra bow) and I do believe that everyone can find an Zod rune, no matter how many posts they have :p

So yea, I would have believed you. Zod drops do happen and we are a pretty neat bunch of SPF:ers that play on a daily basis. If you found a CHAM rune the next day I would be suspicious though ;)
 
Nacaa said:
Actually I would. I believed FBob (I didn't think anything bad of him until the hacked hydra bow) and I do believe that everyone can find an Zod rune, no matter how many posts they have :p

So yea, I would have believed you. Zod drops do happen and we are a pretty neat bunch of SPF:ers that play on a daily basis. If you found a CHAM rune the next day I would be suspicious though ;)

I'm pretty sure i would have been flamed. :lol:
But i'll stop here. I like FB, he is a nice guy, i would like him to stay. But rules are rules... :(
 
Masas said:
Rant:
Yarr, what is these days - FB dupzors, vajar admits using a maphack (only a no pickup and a MF display feature, but still). What's going to happen next?

On the topic:
Why can't he just make a restart? Yes, damage is done, but it's repairable, because as far as I have seen he doesn't trade that much, and doesn't MP to often.

It's true, but that ZOD tourney....

Anyway I feel sorry for you fbob. I didn't expected something like this from you. But it would be nice, if you will still be here, starting from scratch.
 
Good bye and good ridance Bob. I for one will not be sorry to see you go. You certainly knew the rules of this community and you flaunted them while MPing, playing tournies and no doubt doing giveaways.

I hope to see your name in grey very shortly, and the sooner the better.
 
Masas said:
Rant:
Yarr, what is these days - FB dupzors, vajar admits using a maphack (only a no pickup and a MF display feature, but still). What's going to happen next?

Thrugg not knowing the answer to a question :eek:
 
well reputation do much yes but F_B has done things that seemed strange before.
And in relation to how old this place is and some of us members F_B is not a forum elder.
But we have had hackers and cheaters over all the years so that in it self is nothing new.
Some of these people have said that they have changed their ways and started fresh.
But thrust is a hard thing to regain if your found doing dirty things. Many have learned this on these boards.

Im glad the most advanced cheaters and hackers primary focus on bnet or play open.
 
I must admit I never really liked you bob. In my opinion, you seemed more into useless posting then actually contributing to the community. However, while I have a negative personal opinion, you have done quiet a few good things for the SPF. Your weekly threads, top 5's, and others were great ideas, and were usually a good read. Anyways, so long and cheers!
 
I´ve had a hard time trusting fb ever since I found out that the "fb sells a Zod" movie wasn´t for real. My opinion of him sank deeply after that. Major bummer that it was fake. "jiansonz sells a Mal" doesn´t have quite the same ring to it... :lol:


That said, I would still like to compete against bob in the Melee Blues tournament. If he behaves...
 
My feeling is that FB's disregard for the rules is a stunning insult to the rest of us. Play the way you want on your own computer, as long as it doesn't affect others. That's really a good rule.

But the minute you start giving away the products of your cheating, trade or MP with other people who hold to a different standard, and do so with a calculated cover-up of your every misdeed, then you show yourself to have little regard for anyone but yourself.

FB, there were other occasions when your legitness has been questioned and you have claimed to be innocent. You had numerous chances to stop lying but didn't. Now you are caught without room to wriggle free, so there really isn't anything left to do but confess.

It isn't noble. Or good. Or even "right". You're just shedding a little more light on what we already knew.

I'm completely opposed to "forgive and forget" here (not that this thread in any way constitutes a vote) because it sends the wrong message to the entire forum. Rules are important in a community and shouldn't be trashed in the name of attention-seeking. This is not a contrite individual who has apologized to the people here. This is not someone who was ignorant of the rules or who "made a mistake". This is someone who has been exceedingly careful not to cross the line leading to "hard evidence" and who would probably love a second chance so he could take care not to cross it a second time. This is a person who started with hacked items from the beginning and has been using them to the very end. Bob's stay in the SPF has been an exercise in guile and deceit.

That's from the "should" side of my brain. Another part of me says, "who cares?" I don't dislike FB, and he did contribute a lot. Much of his spam was quite amusing. But is he trustworthy? C'mon, people. Get serious.
 
lone_wolf said:
And in relation to how old this place is and some of us members F_B is not a forum elder.

My bad. I took it from the fact that his "Join Date" stated Sep 2003 and the oldest I've seen is Jun 2003 he was a more senior member around here, perhaps my chronological ranking is out. Sorry for any offence.
 
Tasdaz said:
My bad. I took it from the fact that his "Join Date" stated Sep 2003 and the oldest I've seen is Jun 2003 he was a more senior member around here, perhaps my chronological ranking is out. Sorry for any offence.

There was a forum reset in June 2003 ;) I have been a member of these boards since June 2001, but only a member in the SPF since Jan 2002 or something.
 
Boddah_khan said:
I must admit I never really liked you bob. In my opinion, you seemed more into useless posting then actually contributing to the community. However, while I have a negative personal opinion, you have done quiet a few good things for the SPF. Your weekly threads, top 5's, and others were great ideas, and were usually a good read. Anyways, so long and cheers!
now that's not fair
if you didnt like him you should've said it way before...not now
anyway, there are rules and he broke'em, that's pretty clear, and it's sad that people can't resist temptations
i dont mind if mods will still let him in and i'm damn sure my d2 days wont end if he leaves either.
 
Wow there is a great difference of opinions here I am surprized at how much mindsets change in such a short term, especially of those who are yelling Crusify. It is up to the mods to determine whether FB takes a hike or stays with restrictions. They have temp banned him in the past and have an idea on how to handle the situation, it is in their hands not ours. FB broke a rule and knows he broke it now he must face the music and let fate decide.

lone_wolf said:
But thrust is a hard thing to regain if your found doing dirty things.

Thrust isn't hard to gain, all you need is some solid rocket boosters. The Dirty things? what are you refering to hummm. . .oh your talking about hips and thrust. . . oops did I say that out loud. :uhhuh:
 
phatbrava said:
now that's not fair
if you didnt like him you should've said it way before...not now
anyway, rules are rules and he broke'em, that's pretty clear, and it's sad that people can't resist temptations
i dont mind if mods will still let him in and i'm damn sure my d2 days wont end if he leaves either.

I have said it many times before. And how is it not fair? I did state my personal opinion, correct, but I also stated that he did many good things for the community. As well, I did not in any way say I was glad he was leaving. There is nothing insulting about my post, at least in my opinion. Cheers!
 
I agree with almost everything DnT said.

This thread isn't anything but Bob admiting what we all now know. He has had many opportunities in the past to state his innocence or guilt and has always pleaded innocent and continued to interact in forum tournies/MP/giveaways.

This is just another attention seeking and grandstanding stunt.
 
Uzziah said:
Thrust isn't hard to gain, all you need is some solid rocket boosters. The Dirty things? what are you refering to hummm. . .oh your talking about hips and thrust. . . oops did I say that out loud. :uhhuh:
hehehehe :)
 
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