Harder than than uber trist?

Phyrexial said:
but since I can solo uber trist with my smiter I feel they still aren't hard enough.
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hi.

well, i think you have just grown out of playing in arcade mode, you can solo anywhere in the game if you have the option to resurect your corpse.

if you are playing hardcore already and can solo uber trist, then i 'tip my cap to you'.
 
slap said:
hi.

well, i think you have just grown out of playing in arcade mode, you can solo anywhere in the game if you have the option to resurect your corpse.

if you are playing hardcore already and can solo uber trist, then i 'tip my cap to you'.
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I'm soloing without any deaths, if that means anything to you. My life ball never dropped below half on my last 3 trips through uber territory and I'm confident I can do it consistently without any deaths.

I stray from HC because of the threat of TPPK amongst other exploits as well as the fact that I'm on Wireless internet right now which is less than reliable. Oh yeah, and I play to duel for the most part. Not PK, duel. As in, amongst friends as well as enemies.
 
superdave said:
haven't seen many ladder grief wielders yet
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Well, on Europe, I have a Grief, my best friend has a Grief and yesterday in duel games (god knows what I was doing there :rolleyes: ) I've seen atleast 1 Smiter wielding Grief. (Possibly more, once their bowazons and wwbarbs got kicked in the nuts, they all went to get their Smiters)

slap said:
hi.
well, i think you have just grown out of playing in arcade mode, you can solo anywhere in the game if you have the option to resurect your corpse.
if you are playing hardcore already and can solo uber trist, then i 'tip my cap to you'.
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Hm, I don't think it's that simple.
First of all, if you die, you lose gold, and the fight sofar prob cost you a lot of pots and damage to weapon/armors.
Second of all, you'll have to leave game and rejoin, NO char can go in naked to get his body while the uber three with their uber minions are swarmed all over it.
Third of all, everytime you wait in town to buy stuff, get your body back or repair your items, they'll have full health when you face them again.

So, eventually, if you can't face them, you simply can't kill them, no matter howmany times you can resurrect your own body.
Persons that can handle the uber three solo, I tip my cap for them already, hardcore is just insane.
 
hi

dawnmaster: i was just answering phyrexial question 'how to make them harder'.
being able to resurect your charactor takes the 'tension'/'excitement'..etc out of game. you might think that you are hard done to by having to restart the game if you die. but really, you are just kidding yourself.

phyrexial: you can still make a hardcore charactor and keep your other charactors to battle with your friends. you asked 'how to make them harder', blizzard implemented hardcore for just such a reason.

when you can solo uber trist in hardcore, then i think that you can 'blow your own trumpet' and post on forums with the title of this topic.
 
middleman35 said:
Well that's a nice idea, but there are two major issues with it.

1) It would be very easy to work around, even accounting for gear changes etc. Off the top of my head I can think of at least one build that could do it easy, and that's a skelemancer of all things. Sure your "evil twin" may have lvl 40 raise skeleton/mastery, but if he doesn't somehow spawn his own corpses/minions then he's toast.

2) And this is the really big one, can you imagine the AI these things would have to have? To be intelligent enough to master even basic builds like a sorc, where the plan is "fire spell x (fireball/lightning/orb, etc) at enemy, repeat" would be quite a bit of work to stop your fire sorc twin not doing something stupid like using firewall or telekinesis!

And lastly this type of thing is already in the game. It's called dueling.
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For 1) It is easy enough to make them spawn with the exact same minions when the fight starts.
For 2) It's easy enough to skew them to use the one with the higher skill lvl, and/or some internal balance. However, making them fight anymore than a bot might be hard...... But hey, that can be offset by making them more powerful than you.
 
make all 3 of them start at the enterance - so u must take all 3 at once

and then make it if u die the portal closes - u just lost 9 keys
 
This is too easy to answer

To the original poster, they should add in a clone of your character with the same exact stuff you're wearing, give it lots of hp like in Guild Wars, AND give it full juv pots...that should make it hard for you
 
Luckymofo said:
To the original poster, they should add in a clone of your character with the same exact stuff you're wearing, give it lots of hp like in Guild Wars, AND give it full juv pots...that should make it hard for you
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To Luckymofo, read some of the posts in a thread before posting, this has already been said a few times
 
DarkStooge said:
To Luckymofo, read some of the posts in a thread before posting, this has already been said a few times
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doh, i thought no body thought of it, my bad. i usually do read but im tired

damn you necrolestes for beating me to it grrrrrr :rant:

just kidding necro ^_^
 
slap said:
phyrexial: you can still make a hardcore charactor and keep your other charactors to battle with your friends. you asked 'how to make them harder', blizzard implemented hardcore for just such a reason.

when you can solo uber trist in hardcore, then i think that you can 'blow your own trumpet' and post on forums with the title of this topic.
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Uber Trist in HC wouldn't be that much harder, rather it would just be taking a larger risk. Potentially losing everything. However, the actually difficulty involved in fighting uber trist would be the same since I don't die in uber trist anyway.

The only thing that would make it harder would be the leveling and gear collecting process, but that isn't really related to fighting uber trist.

Perhaps an analogy can help explain my point of view here. If I were to fight someone and we both had handguns, first person to get hit lost, it wouldn't matter if those bullets were lethal or not. The only difference being that in one case you will live to try again if you lose. In both cases though, the difficulty involved in the fight itself would be the same.
 
oscarmk1 said:
Well my druid has done it by himself without either life tap nor crushing blow.
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Cool, Fury Druid or Windy?

I would imagine Cyclone armor goes a long way towards nullifying Meph's Conviction.
 
middleman35 said:
Well that's a nice idea, but there are two major issues with it.

1) It would be very easy to work around, even accounting for gear changes etc. Off the top of my head I can think of at least one build that could do it easy, and that's a skelemancer of all things. Sure your "evil twin" may have lvl 40 raise skeleton/mastery, but if he doesn't somehow spawn his own corpses/minions then he's toast.

2) And this is the really big one, can you imagine the AI these things would have to have? To be intelligent enough to master even basic builds like a sorc, where the plan is "fire spell x (fireball/lightning/orb, etc) at enemy, repeat" would be quite a bit of work to stop your fire sorc twin not doing something stupid like using firewall or telekinesis!

And lastly this type of thing is already in the game. It's called dueling.
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wow~ i just had the most wonderful idea! blizzard could create an exact duplicate of u, strong ai, intense damage, res, life and the clone would have access to all of your skills!! i know! ill call her.. shadow master :lol:
they've already got the pallet with sm, just imagine wut they could do if they added a little paint :thumbsup:
 
Phyrexial said:
Cool, Fury Druid or Windy?

I would imagine Cyclone armor goes a long way towards nullifying Meph's Conviction.
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Fury druid with feral rage for 144% life leech. Mm i have a windy though but i dont think he would do well because tornados dmg just wouldnt cut it with the regeneration.
 
Glakor said:
wow~ i just had the most wonderful idea! blizzard could create an exact duplicate of u, strong ai, intense damage, res, life and the clone would have access to all of your skills!! i know! ill call her.. shadow master :lol:
they've already got the pallet with sm, just imagine wut they could do if they added a little paint :thumbsup:
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dont make the same mistake I did; someone else already said this before.

<necrolestes said it first grrr>
 
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