Guide to the Perfect Grail
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jrlafrance
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Hmmm, I always thought they were Unique..whomhead said:
:uhhuh:
Quickdeath
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The Guide to the Perfect Grail (continued)
Finishing the table from the last post:
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Sander's Paragon 3 Def:3-5
Sander's Riprap 2 Def:5-6
Sander's Superstition 1
Sander's Taboo 12 Def:5-6 DefAdder:20-25
Sandstorm Trek 34,596 PRes:40-70% Vit:10-15 Str:10-15
ED:140-171
Saracen's Chance 11 ResA:15-25
Sazabi's Cobalt Redeemer 1
Sazabi's Ghost Liberator 3,068 Life:50-75 DefAftAdder:810-917
Sazabi's Mental Sheath 360 LRes:15-20% FRes:15-20% DefAftAdder:175-184
Schaefer's Hammer 31 ED:100-130%
Seraph's Hymn 6,262 DefAurSk:1-2 DamDem:20-50% AR:150-250
DamUnd:20-50% ARUnd:150-250
Serpent Lord 11 ED:30-40%
Shadow Dancer 506 SDSk:1-2 Dex:15-25 ED: 70-100%
Shadow Killer 306 ED:170-220% MAEK:10-15
Shadowfang 1
Shaftstop 41 EnDef:160-200%
Sigon's Gage 4 Def:12-15
Sigon's Guard 4 Def:22-25
Sigon's Sabot 4 Def:12-15
Sigon's Shelter 1 None
Sigon's Visor 6 Def:55-60
Sigon's Wrap 4 Def:8-11
Silks of the Victor 47 EnDef:100-120%
Silkweave 41 ED:150-190%
Skewer of Krinitz 1
Skin of the Flayed One 1,353 LL:5-7% RL:15-25 EnDef:150-190%
Skin of the Vipermagi 80 ResA:20-35% MDamR:9-13
Skull Collector 1
Skull Splitter 8,364 ED: 60-100% MaxLDam:12-15 AR:50-100
Skullder's Ire 99 EnDef:160-200%
Skystrike 51 ED:150-200%
Snakecord 2 Def:14-15
Snowclash 41 ED:130-170%
Soul Drainer 496 LL:4-7% ML:4-7% ED:90-120%
Soul Harvest 41 ED:50-90%
Soulfeast Tine 4,141 ED:150-190% AR:150-250
Soulflay 31 ED:70-100%
Sparking Mail 55 ATLDam:10-14 Def:75-80%Spectral Shard 1
Spellsteal 1
Spike Thorn 186 PDR:15-20% ED:120-150%
Spineripper 41 ED:200-240%
Spire of Honor 51 ED:150-200%
Spire of Lazarus 1
Spirit Forge 70 EnDef:120-160%
Spirit Keeper 30,492 EnDef:170-190% DrSk:1-2 FRes:30-40%
LAbs:9-14 CAbs:15-25%
Spirit Ward 37,026 ResA:30-40 CAbs:6-11 Block:+20-30%
Ed:130-180%
Stealskull 861 MF:30-50 ED: 200-240%
Steel Carapace 8,316 CRes:40-60% DR:9-14 EnDef:190-200%
RM:10-15%
Steel Pillar 1,581 ED:210-260% EDef:50-80%
Steel Shade 5,859 ML:4-8 FAbs:5-11 RL:10-18
Def:100-130%
Steelclash 54 Def:50-58 Dur:45-50
Steeldriver 101 ED:150-250%
Steelgoad 441 ED:60-80% Dur:70-90
Steelrend 7,626 ED:30-60% Str:15-20 DefAdd:170-210
Stone Crusher 286 ED:280-320% Str:20-30
Stone of Jordan 1
Stoneraven 633,150 J&SSk:1-3 ResA:30-50 ED:230-280%
DefAdder:400-600
Stormchaser 61 ED:160-220%
Stormeye 63 ResLightSk:3-5 ED:80-120%
Stormguild 18 Def:52-54 Dur:34-39
Stormlash 427 ED:240-300% LAbs:3-9
Stormrider 8 LvlCBTC:13-20
Stormshield 16 Def:136-151
Stormspike 1
Stormspire 101 ED:150-250%
Stormstrike 21 ED:70-90%
Stoutnail 8 ATD:3-10
String of Ears 3,348 PDR:10-15% MDR:10-15 LL:6-8%
ED:150-180%
Suicide Branch 1
Sureshrill Frost 31 ED:150-180%
Swordback Hold 9 Def:43-51
Swordguard 121 ED:170-180% ResAll:+10-20
Taebaek's Glory 18 DefAftAdder:203-220
Tal Rasha's Adjudication 1
Tal Rasha's Fine-Spun Cloth 36 MF:10-15% Def:35-40
Tal Rasha's Guardianship 109 DefAftAdder:833-941
Tal Rasha's Horadric Crest 33 DefAftAdder:99-131
Tal Rasha's Lidless Eye 8 LMast:1-2 FMast:1-2 CMast:1-2
Tancred's Crowbill 1
Tancred's Hobnails 2 Def:2-3
Tancred's Skull 4 Def:33-36
Tancred's Spine 11 Def:150-161
Tancred's Weird 1
Tarnhelm 104 MF:25-50% Def:8-11
Tearhaunch 4 Def:60-63
Telling of Beads 48 PRes:35-50% ATD:8-10
Templar's Might 2,059,992 OffAurSk:1-2 Str:10-15 Vit:10-15
EnDef:170-220% DefVsMiss:250-300 Stam:40-50
The Atlantean 51 ED:200-250%
The Battlebranch 1,071 ED:50-70% AR:50-100
The Cat's Eye 1
The Centurion 4 Def:51-54
The Chieftain 11 ResA:10-20
The Diggler 1
The Dragon Chang 1
The Eye of Etlich 14,850 LL:3-7% CDur:2-10s CDamMin:1-2
CDamMax:3-5 DvM:10-40 LRad:1-5
The Face of Horror 19 Def:34-52
The Fetid Sprinkler 1,581 ED:160-190% AR: 150-200
The Gavel of Pain 31 ED:130-160%
The General's Tan Do Li Ga 11 ED:50-60%
The Gladiator's Bane 1,836 MDR:15-20 DR:15-20 EnDef:150-200%
The Gnasher 11 ED:60-70%
The Grandfather 101 ED:150-250%
The Grim Reaper 1
The Hand of Broc 1
The Impaler 31 ED:140-170%
The Iron Jang Bong 1
The Jade Tan Do 51 AR:100-150
The Mahim-Oak Curio 1
The Meat Scraper 51 ED: 150-200%
The Minotaur 366 Str:15-20 ED:140-200%
The Oculus 1
The Patriarch 21 ED:100-120%
The Reaper's Toll 255 LL:11-15% ED:190-240%
The Redeemer 11,934 HBSk: 2-4 RedSk:2-4 ED:250-300%
DamDem:200-250%
The Rising Sun 7 LvlMeteorCTC:13-19
The Salamander 1
The Scalper 153 ED:150-200% LL:4-6%
The Spirit Shroud 5 MDamR:7-11
The Tannr Gorerod 21 ED:80-100%
The Vile Husk 51 ED:150-200%
The Ward 21 ResA:30-50
Thundergod's Vigor 41 ED:160-200%
Thunderstroke 153 J&SSk:2-4 ED:150-200%
Tiamat's Rebuke 671 ResAll:25-35% ED:140-200%
Titan's Revenge 255 ED:150-200% LL:5-9%
Todesfalle Flamme 41 ED:120-160%
Tomb Reaver 6,470,884,665 Sock:1-3 LAEK:10-14 ResA:30-50
ED:200-280% DamUnd:150-230% ArUnd:250-350
MF:30-50%
Toothrow 18,081 ATDam:20-40 EnDef:160-220% DefAdd:40-60
Torch of Iro 1
Trang'Oul's Claws 8 DefAftAdder:67-74
Trang-Oul's Girth 5,408 Mana:25-50 Def:59-66 DefAdder:75-100
Trang-Oul's Guise 1,218 Def:100-157 DefAdder:80-100
Trang-Oul's Scales 1
Trang-Oul's Wing 120 FRes:38-45% DefAftAdder:175-189
Treads of Cthon 2 ED:30-40%
Twitchthroe 4 Def:57-60
Tyrael's Might 6,171 ResA:20-30 Str:20-30 DamDem:50-100%
EnDef:120-150%
Umbral Disk 12 Def:45-46 Dur:26-31
Ume's Lament 1
Undead Crown 918 ARvU:50-100 Def:99-113
Valkyrie Wing 306 AmSkill:1-2 MAEK:2-4 ED:150-200%
Vampire Gaze 324 LL:6-8% ML:6-8% DR:15-20%
MDR:10-15
Veil of Steel 1
Venom Grip 11 EnDef:15-25%
Venom Ward 41 EnDef:60-100%
Verdungo's Hearty Cord 282,744 EnDef:90-140% PDR:10-15% RepL:10-13
Vit:30-40
Vidala's Ambush 4 Def:64-67
Vidala's Barb 1
Vidala's Fetlock 3 Def:9-11
Vidala's Snare 1
Viperfork 54,621 ED:190-240% AR:200-250 PRes:30-50%
Visceratuant 26 ED:100-150%
Wall of the Eyeless 4 Def:50-53
War Traveler 5,166 ATDam:5-10 ED:150-190% MF:30 -50%
Warlord's Trust 1
Warpspear 1
Warshrike 51 ED:200-250%
Waterwalk 651 Life:45-65 ED:180-210%
Whitsan's Guard 1
Widowmaker 153 GArrSk:3-5 ED:150-200%
Wilhelm's Pride 1
Windforce 3 ML:6-8%
Windhammer 51 ED:180-230%
Wirt's Leg 4 Sock:0-3
Wisp Projector 121 MF:10-20% LAbs:10-20%
Witchwild String 21 ED: 150-170%
Witherstring 11 ED:40-50%
Wizardspike 1
Wizendraw 561 ED:70-80% AR:50-100
Woestave 21 ED:20-40%
Wolfhowl 2,285,568 EnDef:120-150% WarCrSk:2-3 FerRsSk:3-6
Lyc:3-6 WWSk:3-6 Str:8-16
Dex:8-15 Vit:8-15
Wormskull 4 Def:33-36
Wraith Flight 205 ED:150-190% LL:9-13%
Zakarum's Hand 41 ED:180-220%More Fun Facts
1. Well actually, Head Hunter's Glory is not the rarest perfect unique, it is Tomb Reaver Cryptic Axe, with over 6 billion variants. Thansk to my reveiwers for reminding me of that.
2. One cannot merely pick up a Civerb's Ward, identify it and determine whether it is unique. That is because two of the variable modifiers only apply when you have two Civerb's set items. So, its necessary to look at the Civerb's Ward item in ATMA to see if it is unique. I'm still looking, because it has eluded me so far.
3. Wolfhowl has eight modifiers - but only 2 million variants or so.
6.0 The God Grail
One could imagine many kind of Grails to pursue.
The Perfect Grail: Looking for the all of the perfect items above. A joint effort of 10,000 players might take decades to accomplish this.
The Flawless Grail: This might be a Grail in which each unique or set item has modifiers within the upper half of their possible values. Another variant might add as a criterion that all +Skills modifers must be perfect. And of course, we could feel free to ignore certain types of modifiers as beneath our notice: +X to Light Radius, +X to Maximum Stamina, Durability Modifiers, probably +X to Attack Rating against Demons or Undead; etc.
The Perfect Ethereal Grail: Ethereal versions of uniques are collected by some of us who don’t have a life, perfect ethereal uniques are an inevitable next step.
The God Grail: Well, here’s the concept. You see, many of the normal uniques are capable of being upgraded to exceptional and elite versions, and many of the exceptional uniques can be upgraded to elite versions as well. It is pretty common to upgrade a Ribcracker staff or a Goldwrap belt to gain better attributes, for example.
But here’s the issue when you upgrade an armor item: you’re uncertain of what value of base defense your upgraded armor item gets. When it is upgraded, it is assigned a base defense value randomly selected from the range of defense for the item type that it is becoming .So one could upgrade a perfect unique armor item and obtain an imperfect upgraded unique. In fact, the odds are excellent that you will not get a perfect exceptional or elite armor item when upgrading.
So are you getting a sense of what the ultimate God Grail is? It’s a grail in which you have the perfect version of all sets, uniques and upgraded uniques. A Grail in which you have a perfect Lenymo Sash, a perfect Lenymo Demonhide Sash, and a perfect Lenymo Arachnid Sash. And so on for all the upgradeable uniques. Throw in all the runes as well, heck, I suspect that finding the Zod would be the least of your problems!
And, why call it the God Grail? Here’s why. Whether you believe in a Deity, or the Great Mechanism, or the Big Nothingness in the Sky, I guarantee you that if He is sitting at a keyboard playing Diablo II LOD, that even He does not have this Grail. Some goals are bigger than all of us.
Quickdeath
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I've noticed three entries are wrong. They should read:
Cliffkiller:
2,706
ED:190-230%
MinDam: +5-10
MaxDam:20-30
Steelclash:
246
EnDef:60-100%
Dur:45-50
Venom Grip
31
EnDef:130-160%
Cliffkiller:
2,706
ED:190-230%
MinDam: +5-10
MaxDam:20-30
Steelclash:
246
EnDef:60-100%
Dur:45-50
Venom Grip
31
EnDef:130-160%
ricrestoni
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Great read, really. I already gave a lot of thought on the subject. I even though about making a spread sheet that automatically calculates how close to a perfect grail you are. In one Nagelring example
Nagelring:
MF 22 (15-30)
AR 66 (50-75)
You would have:
MF perfection = (22-15)/(30-15) = 7/15 = 46.67%
AR perfection = (66-50)/(75-50) = 16/25 = 64%
item perfection = (46.67+64)/2 = 110.67/2 = 55.33% perfect.
Then it would calculate all values for the items I have, assigning a 0% for the items that I do not have, and 100% for the items that have no variables (all of them are perfect after all) to get to a final value.
Then I saw the mountain of work it would take me to finish, and just went to watch TV instead.
BTW:
Nagelring
Ring
Required Level: 7
Item Version: 1.10 Expansion
Item Level: 87
Fingerprint: 0xe432355d
+75 to Attack Rating
Magic Damage Reduced by 3
Attacker Takes Damage of 3
30% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items
Yay Meph!
Nagelring:
MF 22 (15-30)
AR 66 (50-75)
You would have:
MF perfection = (22-15)/(30-15) = 7/15 = 46.67%
AR perfection = (66-50)/(75-50) = 16/25 = 64%
item perfection = (46.67+64)/2 = 110.67/2 = 55.33% perfect.
Then it would calculate all values for the items I have, assigning a 0% for the items that I do not have, and 100% for the items that have no variables (all of them are perfect after all) to get to a final value.
Then I saw the mountain of work it would take me to finish, and just went to watch TV instead.
BTW:
Nagelring
Ring
Required Level: 7
Item Version: 1.10 Expansion
Item Level: 87
Fingerprint: 0xe432355d
+75 to Attack Rating
Magic Damage Reduced by 3
Attacker Takes Damage of 3
30% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items
Yay Meph!
Colorless Green
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I noticed another oversight:
Chance Guards have variable MF.
Chance Guards have variable MF.
:thumbsup: :clap:Quickdeath
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Yes, Chance Guards entry is wrong. Also the Rakescar entry. They should read
Chance Guards
176
Enhanced Defense: 20-30%
MF:25-40%
Rakescar:
76
Enhanced Damage: 75-150%
Sorry about the errors. Some of the earliest entries I worked on required revision because my methdology changed, and I apparently didn't go back and revise all of them.
Chance Guards
176
Enhanced Defense: 20-30%
MF:25-40%
Rakescar:
76
Enhanced Damage: 75-150%
Sorry about the errors. Some of the earliest entries I worked on required revision because my methdology changed, and I apparently didn't go back and revise all of them.
Quickdeath
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Okay, here's some interesting personal facts.
My best Nagelring is MF=28, AR=75. Congrats to ricrestoni and his perfect.
I have 114 perfect uniques!
I own 68 of the 102 unique uniques - those that only have a single version. Nothing special in owning those.
My best (most rare) perfect unique is my perfect Bonesnap. The Enhanced Damage modifier can range from 200% to 300%, i.e. 101 possible versions. The good news is that I have a 300% Bonesnap, the bad news is that it is ethereal (I think it is my only ethereal perfect unique.)
I also have perfect versions of Goldskin (1 in 31), Tal Rasha's Heraldic Crest (1 in 33), a Baezil's Vortex (1 in 41) and a Zakarum's Hand (1 in 41). Hoohah!
I also have 49 of the 62 Classic sets items in their perfect versions. They are relatively easy to collect as perfects.
My best Nagelring is MF=28, AR=75. Congrats to ricrestoni and his perfect.
I have 114 perfect uniques!
I own 68 of the 102 unique uniques - those that only have a single version. Nothing special in owning those.
My best (most rare) perfect unique is my perfect Bonesnap. The Enhanced Damage modifier can range from 200% to 300%, i.e. 101 possible versions. The good news is that I have a 300% Bonesnap, the bad news is that it is ethereal (I think it is my only ethereal perfect unique.)
I also have perfect versions of Goldskin (1 in 31), Tal Rasha's Heraldic Crest (1 in 33), a Baezil's Vortex (1 in 41) and a Zakarum's Hand (1 in 41). Hoohah!
I also have 49 of the 62 Classic sets items in their perfect versions. They are relatively easy to collect as perfects.
Seishinkan
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QD, this is outstanding... just the kind of table that I was wondering about recently.
But I have a question. Apparently, I'm missing something. I was spot-checking a few of the items. How did you come up with your odds numbers for Alma Negra and Black Hades? I don't get the same values as you.
Thanks again for the information. I imagine that it took a LONG time to pull together. Can't wait to check my grail items to see how many (few!) perfects I may have.
But I have a question. Apparently, I'm missing something. I was spot-checking a few of the items. How did you come up with your odds numbers for Alma Negra and Black Hades? I don't get the same values as you.
Thanks again for the information. I imagine that it took a LONG time to pull together. Can't wait to check my grail items to see how many (few!) perfects I may have.
Quickdeath
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Seishinkan said:
Thanks for checking. On Alma Negra, the calculation is correct but the table I posted is missing one of the variable modifiers. Its should have an additional modifier: MDR = 5-9.
On Black Hades, the modifiers are correct but somehow the odds number is screwed up. The odds should be 96,441 to 1.
So those entries should be:
Alma Negra Sacred Rondache
401,760
Endef = 180-210%_____PalSk=1-2
ED=40-75%__________AR%=40-75%
MDR=5-9
Black Hades Chaos Armor
96,441
DamDem=30-60%______ARDem=200-250
EnDef=140-200%
Quickdeath
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I would be happy to email an excel file with the complete list and all the corrections to anyone who wants it. I have been updating the spreadsheet with all the corrections.
Just PM me and give me an email address if you want it.
Just PM me and give me an email address if you want it.
I think we should send this thread to the D3 development team to motivate them to hurry the hell up. This is proof positive that we're finally running out of things to do with poor old d2 :laugh:
The only perfect items I can recall off the top of my head is a 300% ed ribcracker (which I subsequently lost somehow) and a perfect ravenfrost (that I happily still have!).
The only perfect items I can recall off the top of my head is a 300% ed ribcracker (which I subsequently lost somehow) and a perfect ravenfrost (that I happily still have!).
