Green with Envy II Tournament

[sequana]

Re: Green with Envy II Tournament

[Highlight] Filip, Necromancer, Act I NM - Rogue Encampment, level 45, points 63 [/highlight]

lvl 45..............-45
Qs 27...............54
WPs 40............40
greens 5.......... 15
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Total ........... 63

Act V without troubles. Nihlathak dropped 4th green item - Tancred's Crowbill, really stupid weapon and Baal was a bit more generous and dropped Sigon's Wrap. I’m really happy to have belt with four slots.

Cow level also done (I still had leg in stash :grin.

 

[Es Mors]

Re: Green with Envy II Tournament

I don't know, It doesn't "feel right" to go back to a white weapon after a equipping a green one. I'll keep the wand in my stash until Morathi comes down with the rule hammer (or something :smiley

Doesn't matter anymore, I found a green bow!

P.S. Sorry for qouting myself

 

[Road Ratt]

Re: Green with Envy II Tournament

The last part of a5 went very slowly. I went back and got nihlathak, it took over two hours to clear my way down and kill him at p8. Ancients were not a problem at p3. On my way down to kill baal I had this drop so now my merc has a helm. I played baal at p1 and he thanked me by dropping nothing of use :tongue:. I started out playing cows at p4 but after the ambush at the portal it was clearly too high a setting so it eventually went down to p1, even then they took over an hour to clear. Oh, I found a set shield I'd forgot that I had in my atma stash so that's why my equipped set items went up by two this update.

I entered hell with these resists: -34/-2/-17/-62

This is new territory for me, I've never played hell with resists this low.

79 waypoints = 79
54 quests completed = 108
13 set items equipped = 39
Level 75 = -75
Total = 151

Hell Rogue Camp, Lev. 75, 151 points

Name            Character         Class      Area          Level    Points 
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Road Ratt       Rebel Jen         Amazon     Rogue Camp(H)   75      151
Bassano         envylord          Necro      Dark Wood(N)    46       71
sequana         Filip             Necro      Rogue Camp(N)   45       63
Insane Wayne    Pepper            Sorceress  Harrogath       36       60
Slayer37        Bella             Assassin   Harrogath       35       58
Profound        Roy               Barbarian  Lower Kurast    30       42
StevehRogers    The Hulk          Necro      Kurast Docks    28       36
Es Mors         Prisikelk         Necro      Kurast Docks    23       30
jgreg7          Venus             Sorceress  Kurast Docks    26       26
Morathi         Cosi              Druid      Kuarst Docks    28       23
Barkstav        Dorothea          Sorceress  Lost City       25       12
Ikeren          Javazon           Amazon     Lut Gholein     25       12
EmperorMoo      Monster           Necro      Lut Gholein     19        9
Ikuze           H-lessChick       Amazon     Palace Cellar   25        7
topoada         NaturalKingCole   Druid      Lut Gholein     20        1
Arkansaw        Sincro            Necro      Burial Grounds   8        1
jiansonz        Allisandrina      Assassin   Rogue Camp       1        0
Low Key         Avarice           Assassin   Rogue Camp       1        0
Hoop76          ?                 ?????      Rogue Camp       1        0
howdidigethere  Mikey             Paladin    Rogue Camp       1        0
Derivial        Zealot            Paladin    Rogue Camp       1        0
Imploder        Kyouken           Druid      Cold Plains      7       -3
erimatbrad      Futility          Sorceress  Rogue Camp      12       -5


RIP
Name            Character    Class       Area            Level    Points 
----------------------------------------------------------------------
StevehRogers    MrsGreen      Sorceress  Kurast Docks NM   60      108
DuesNox         MutNinjaTurt  Assassin   Outer Cloister(N) 48       77
Es Mors         Kelkis        Necro      Swampy Pit lvl3   25       30
linkato1        Albert        Paladin    The Barracks      17       -3

 

[bassano]

Re: Green with Envy II Tournament

Name            Character         Class      Area          Level    Points 
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Road Ratt       Rebel Jen         Amazon     Rogue Camp(H)   75      151
Bassano         envylord          Necro      Cry Passage(N)  62      138
sequana         Filip             Necro      Rogue Camp(N)   45       63
Insane Wayne    Pepper            Sorceress  Harrogath       36       60
Slayer37        Bella             Assassin   Harrogath       35       58
Profound        Roy               Barbarian  Lower Kurast    30       42
StevehRogers    The Hulk          Necro      Kurast Docks    28       36
Es Mors         Prisikelk         Necro      Kurast Docks    23       30
jgreg7          Venus             Sorceress  Kurast Docks    26       26
Morathi         Cosi              Druid      Kuarst Docks    28       23
Barkstav        Dorothea          Sorceress  Lost City       25       12
Ikeren          Javazon           Amazon     Lut Gholein     25       12
EmperorMoo      Monster           Necro      Lut Gholein     19        9
Ikuze           H-lessChick       Amazon     Palace Cellar   25        7
topoada         NaturalKingCole   Druid      Lut Gholein     20        1
Arkansaw        Sincro            Necro      Burial Grounds   8        1
jiansonz        Allisandrina      Assassin   Rogue Camp       1        0
Low Key         Avarice           Assassin   Rogue Camp       1        0
Hoop76          ?                 ?????      Rogue Camp       1        0
howdidigethere  Mikey             Paladin    Rogue Camp       1        0
Derivial        Zealot            Paladin    Rogue Camp       1        0
Imploder        Kyouken           Druid      Cold Plains      7       -3
erimatbrad      Futility          Sorceress  Rogue Camp      12       -5


RIP
Name            Character    Class       Area            Level    Points 
----------------------------------------------------------------------
StevehRogers    MrsGreen      Sorceress  Kurast Docks NM   60      108
DuesNox         MutNinjaTurt  Assassin   Outer Cloister(N) 48       77
Es Mors         Kelkis        Necro      Swampy Pit lvl3   25       30
linkato1        Albert        Paladin    The Barracks      17       -3

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I am going through the NM trying p8 but somewhere were problems with resist e.g. tamoe highland. From andy I drop big nothing. Act II was hard for some problems in maggot lair and arcane but in maggots lair I found http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/3451/screenshot201kg8.jpg. But when I switch to P1 CE make it easy. Drop from duriel was the same type how from andy.
Act III started nice I playing to P8 and levels go up. From council finally I drop some weapon http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/9756/screenshot202dk3.jpg. Then meph drop me only some unique useless items. :undecided:
In act IV I started on P4 and before 3 bosspacks in outer steps I switch to p1 beacuse I have fear from burning souls in plains of despair but for my fortune there are no souls. From HF I tak Dol rune. And then I go to chaos sanctuary using p2 setting for good CE effect and for some exp. Only problems was that I forgot switch to p1 when approach diablo and I have problems with him. Lord the sies drop me very nice piece of armor http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/4131/screenshot204io3.jpg
I started today night act V using p1 only in crystaline passage p4 there I had good roll of monster types. And few minutes ago I rescue anya from river (again I have luck to do not have gloams there) . Ancients waiting for me and I am going to hard exam.

73 waypoints = 73
50 quests completed = 100
9 set items equipped = 27
Level 62 = -62
Total = 138

Nightmare Lev. 62, 138 points

 

[sequana]

Re: Green with Envy II Tournament

Good progress bassano and Road Ratt :thumbsup:.

[Highlight] Filip, Necromancer, Act I NM - Dark Wood, level 47, points 74 [/highlight]

lvl 47..............-47
Qs 30...............60
WPs 43............43
greens 6.......... 18
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Total ........... 74

Proceeding act I NM Filip found another green item - Milabrega's Orb, so at least he has 20 MF now.
Killing Blood Raven was almost funny, after immobilization her it was easy to kill her.
And Cain is safe in Rogue.

@necro players: Do you think it is worth to put points into bone armor? And if yes, how many in this untwinked case? Now I have there one point, seems to be good, but will it be worth later in game? I didn't play necro before, only in MP game where it is much more easier.

 

[bassano]

Re: Green with Envy II Tournament

Good progress bassano and Road Ratt :thumbsup:

Thanks I had two days holidays here and I play long time always In night. :smiley:
Your necro is in good way to hell too :thumbsup:

 

[Brakstav]

Re: Green with Envy II Tournament

Hey you guys! Stop speeding! :wink3:

No further progress lately, but I am aiming at finishing Act 2 tonight. Or at least get a bit further.

 

[StevehRogers]

Re: Green with Envy II Tournament

Good progress bassano and Road Ratt :thumbsup:.


@necro players: Do you think it is worth to put points into bone armor? And if yes, how many in this untwinked case? Now I have there one point, seems to be good, but will it be worth later in game? I didn't play necro before, only in MP game where it is much more easier.

If you do be sure to put the points in bone wall rather than bone armour as it receives +15 rather than +10%, i think that is right. At the moment I have 1 point in each, but this is my 1st ever necro so I'm not really the guy to ask! Im thinking of maybe putting 3 points into bone wall

 

[bassano]

Re: Green with Envy II Tournament

If you do be sure to put the points in bone wall rather than bone armour as it receives +15 rather than +10%, i think that is right. At the moment I have 1 point in each, but this is my 1st ever necro so I'm not really the guy to ask! Im thinking of maybe putting 3 points into bone wall

I have 1 point into each too (with sigon shield 2 points for each) and I think that is enough beacuse when I catch some melee attack in hell the bone armour do not save me :smiley:
Maybe when I will have 20 points in CE then I make some points into wall or armour. I use bone wall only in few occasions e.g. desert in ACT II. In rest of game I do not need it. Once I had big problem when I used bone wall in bad place and I stay only with few monster without skelies closed in some corner of area and it was terrible from there I use bone wall very few :grin:

 

[Denton]

Re: Green with Envy II Tournament

Nice progress there. I'm still hesitating whether to join this or not.

@necro players: Do you think it is worth to put points into bone armor? And if yes, how many in this untwinked case? Now I have there one point, seems to be good, but will it be worth later in game? I didn't play necro before, only in MP game where it is much more easier.

Each point in Bone Armor always only adds 10 damage absorbed, whereas its synergies; Bone Wall and Bone Prison, always increase the damage absorbed by the Bone Armor by 15 per each point. So putting more than 1 point into Bone Armor is never efficient, except after both Bone Wall and Bone Prison would have been maxed. And even then there are skills where the points would be better spent, unless the goal would be to make the strongest possible Bone Armor.

So if you want a stronger Bone Armor, keep Bone Armor at 1 point and put points into its synergies. Bone Wall only has Bone Armor as a pre-requisite, so it doesn't "waste" any skill points, whereas Bone Prison has 1 pre-req that is not useful for a summon necro; Bone Spear.

And is it worth it to make Bone Armor stronger than just 1 point in it and no synergies? I'd say maybe yes, a bit, because with no +skills (I'm considering this tournament where +skills are very hard to come by) it only provides 20 damage absorbed. On Hell difficulty that won't be able to provide much protection even against the weakest of attacks, practically every single physical damage hit would break it.

By putting 1 point in both Bone Wall and Bone Prison, the damage absorbed by Bone Armor would more than double to 50, and that's already a little bit useful even on Hell, although it won't help noticeably against heavy hitting unique monsters for example.

But despite of how I'm implying that Bone Armor is quite weak (unless it's synergized fully), it usually is worth it to put a point in Bone Prison anyway (for example for locking very dangerous monsters in place to escape from them), and that automatically means at least 1 point in Bone Wall as well, meaning 2 synergizing points for Bone Armor. In short: 1 point in Bone Prison and its pre-req's = at least 50 damage absorbed by Bone Armor, and that's enough because there are better places to spend skill points for a summon necro even in HC, like the curses for example (points in Blind Vision for stopping nasty ranged attackers from spamming (like gloams and spear cats which have piercing attack)).


(Owned by StevehRogers and bassano, but I had already written most of this before they posted (yes I'm very, very slow sometimes), so I decided to post this anyway.)


edit: P.S. Because getting much higher than level ~80 would be difficult (single-pass), it might be worth it to consider keeping CE at a bit lower level and invest those points into curses instead. It would sacrifice crowd killing speed a bit, but would increase safety quite a bit.

 

[sequana]

Re: Green with Envy II Tournament

Thanks for replies. I didn't realize that put points into bone armor instead of bone wall for example is such wasting. But as I said, this is my first serious necro, and I would so want to finish him :smiley:.

 

[Something Profound]

Re: Green with Envy II Tournament

Howdy, everyone! :wave:

This contest looks really interesting, and I'd like to sign up. Is there a formal way?

If not, I'll just add myself to the list. I have no idea what I'm going to be yet, but I'll do some pondering on it and get back later tonight. In the meantime...

Name            Character         Class      Area          Level    Points 
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Road Ratt       Rebel Jen         Amazon     Rogue Camp(H)   75      151
Bassano         envylord          Necro      Cry Passage(N)  62      138
sequana         Filip             Necro      Rogue Camp(N)   45       63
Insane Wayne    Pepper            Sorceress  Harrogath       36       60
Slayer37        Bella             Assassin   Harrogath       35       58
Profound        Roy               Barbarian  Lower Kurast    30       42
StevehRogers    The Hulk          Necro      Kurast Docks    28       36
Es Mors         Prisikelk         Necro      Kurast Docks    23       30
jgreg7          Venus             Sorceress  Kurast Docks    26       26
Morathi         Cosi              Druid      Kuarst Docks    28       23
Barkstav        Dorothea          Sorceress  Lost City       25       12
Ikeren          Javazon           Amazon     Lut Gholein     25       12
EmperorMoo      Monster           Necro      Lut Gholein     19        9
Ikuze           H-lessChick       Amazon     Palace Cellar   25        7
topoada         NaturalKingCole   Druid      Lut Gholein     20        1
Arkansaw        Sincro            Necro      Burial Grounds   8        1
SP              ?????             ?????      Rogue Camp       1        0
jiansonz        Allisandrina      Assassin   Rogue Camp       1        0
Low Key         Avarice           Assassin   Rogue Camp       1        0
Hoop76          ?                 ?????      Rogue Camp       1        0
howdidigethere  Mikey             Paladin    Rogue Camp       1        0
Derivial        Zealot            Paladin    Rogue Camp       1        0
Imploder        Kyouken           Druid      Cold Plains      7       -3
erimatbrad      Futility          Sorceress  Rogue Camp      12       -5


RIP
Name            Character    Class       Area            Level    Points 
----------------------------------------------------------------------
StevehRogers    MrsGreen      Sorceress  Kurast Docks NM   60      108
DuesNox         MutNinjaTurt  Assassin   Outer Cloister(N) 48       77
Es Mors         Kelkis        Necro      Swampy Pit lvl3   25       30
linkato1        Albert        Paladin    The Barracks      17       -3

This is actually going to be my first Single Player character. Hopefully it'll be a fun time when I want to play Diablo but my crappy home internet decides to start acting up.

 

[StevehRogers]

Re: Green with Envy II Tournament

Ok.... Bad news TheHulk has perished at the hands of Diablo himself. My 2nd character to die in this tournament, following my lvl60 Sorc. I'm not sure if I'm going to re-enter, i might try and complete hardcore without any restrictions 1st as I have never got past Act 3 NM without dieing. Ill let you know what I'm doing.

Final Score:

TheHulk, Necromancer, Lvl35, R.I.P
Level:35............-35 Points
Waypoints:30.......30 Points
Quests:20............40 Points
Set Items Eq'd:8....24 Points

Total: 79 Points

 

[Road Ratt]

Re: Green with Envy II Tournament

Nice progress there. I'm still hesitating whether to join this or not.

Stop procrastinating and join in the fun already! :tongue: :grin:


Hey Something Profound, welcome to the tourney! rop:


NOOOOOOOOOOO, not TheHulk! Sorry for your loss, hope to see you join us again. :smiley:

 

[slayer37]

Re: Green with Envy II Tournament

Ok.... Bad news TheHulk has perished at the hands of Diablo himself.

It is always frustrating to lose a HC character with full rejuvs still in your belt. I didn't expect you to be 1-hit KO'ed by Diablo Nml. My advice to you is to not hesitate popping a purple when in doubt.

RIP TheHulk.

As for Bella, she's clvl41 at the moment and just saved Anya. She will finish Nml tonight hopefully. IMO, things start to get interesting only in NM. :grin: I will post a formal update after Nml Baal is slain.

 

[StevehRogers]

Re: Green with Envy II Tournament

Yeah he used that flamethrower thing and I couldn't react fast enough to use a potion in time, I think i put too much points into str early on and not enough into vit. The funny thing is i had a bout 15 extra in my stash too, I've just started an Assassin on HC, no restrictions and using my gear from my dead necro so semi twinked, going to see how i get on with that before re-entering in tourney's, get a bet of exp under my belt, but gl to everyone and maybe ill be back before it has finished!

 

[Something Profound]

Re: Green with Envy II Tournament

Well, I've decided on a Windy Druid named Meridian. Never played one before, when I play druids I always go Fury or Fire claws. So! Fun times about. I expect to be Rakanishu'd even before I get to Tornado. :hide:

I've went ahead and started him. Only have him to the Cold Plains way point, but he's already level 12. Boy, the p8 and clearing garners tons of XP...but its slow going.

Nothing really interesting happened, but finding this wand makes me wish I had started a fishymancer. :scratch: Another big benefit for me were the skill shrines, where I was able to summon 2 extra spirit wolves and 2 extra ravens to make quick work of the rascals, including Coldcrow.

But anyways:

Meridian, Druid, Lvl 12
Level (12):.............-12
Waypoints (2):.........2
Quests (1):.............2
Set Items (0):.........0

Total: -8 Points (Wooo!)

 

[Morathi1]

Re: Green with Envy II Tournament

Welcome to the new contestants...good luck to you all :wave:.

@current contestants. Great progress by alot of you so far, especially Road Ratt and Bassano :thumbsup:.

I havn't been too active lately due to the large amount of holiday homework given to me to do. It is really taking alot of my time, so diablo progress and contributing to this forum has been limited. However I am still going strong and currently parked half way through act 3 normal. I will update in more detail once i finish act 3, which hopefully will be during or before the weekend.

Until then keep being Greenish and finding Green items :grin:.

 

[sequana]

Re: Green with Envy II Tournament

Ok.... Bad news TheHulk has perished at the hands of Diablo himself.
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Oh my, RIP.

This is exactly what I'm afraid of. On normal difficulty I killed Diablo with cold shaking hands and now I just started NM and all the time I'm afraid of meeting NM Diablo here. Really pain for necro I think.

 

[Jingizu]

Re: Green with Envy II Tournament

I'm afraid of meeting NM Diablo here. Really pain for necro I think.

Due to the fact, that this tournament is in fact without + skills, I suggest investing more in summon resist. For example, on level 6 your skellies will have 50% resist all, compared to 28% on lvl 1.
I suppose you are playing common summoner, that means 20 skeletons and 20 skeleton mastery, you have quite a lot of "free" skill points, I will reccomend to invest lets say 5+ points to summon resist, golem mastery and revive, to increase your army's endurance

Maybe you have already discussed it in this thread, but I am lazy to search all the pages... :hide: