RTB said:
I have to disagree. There are more weapons that work with WW, but cannot be considered end-game weapons, because of lack of dmg, or range. I play SP, which means no boosts at all. I can't go leech in baal runs, so I can't use my end-game equipment without ever having to resort to other set-ups.
I hate to say this, but I really don't deserve the humiliation of being told there are more weapons which work with ww. I know that. I said
suitable-which is just what u ended up saying due to lack of damage & range.
Bloodletter works fine, since I don't have to care for desynch, I can be sure I can hit a target with just range 1. Lack of dmg is what this weapon suffers.Imagine playing untwinked SP, how would you handle a WWer? Without easy access to the big guns, you're gonna have to find a weapon decent enough for WW.. Rune Master Ettin Axe, Heaven's Light Mighty Scepter. While not quite as powerful, these can work.
Another one-I know that there are various such weapons like blood letter,crainte vomir,hwanins bill. I asked for weapons which have
such high damage & cb as ik, ribcracker & windhammer, seemingly endgame.
You suggested Runemaster & heaven's light:
RUNE MASTER:ettin axe base damage 33-66
- no crushing blow or any other attack mod-just + max cold resist & cbf.
- 50% variance in ed- 220% - 270% (Lets take avg-245)
- base speed 10 & no wias(45% required to hit lwbp)
- 3-5 sockets(2 shales & 1 ias jewel or 3 ias jewels-meaning 3 out 5 max sockets are used up either way, just to get it to lwbp)
-Assuming u
get 5 sockets the best u can do is ed jewels depending on how rich u are.
- Assuming u have 2x40% ed jewels which u are willing to use it on this weapon the final ed is 245+80=325% damage = 140-280 (avg 210)
remember, that damage is reached, when u get an avg ed one,5 sockets, and ed jewels. Compare that damage to any of the three weapons-just the damage, forget about the bonus mods they have, like cb,% damage to x etc.. since runemaster has none at all. On a sidenote those 3 weapons are quite cheap too.
To makes sure no one else quotes me & says "I disagree" (though its ur free will-but its our credibility at stake)-I know u can get an eth one & zod it-but that defies wisdom in my opinion,& so does the idea of sticking 40/15s. I know its one handed & u can use a shield, but since it was recommended, I just provided a comparison-its anybody's guess that there are better 1h options available for ww, even if we ignore that its range 2.
HEAVENS LIGHT: Though the damage is nowhere near to the 3 exceptions or other 1h range 3 weapons, its got cb & defense cut, I'll discuss it with puma, we are moving with a policy on range. And trust me untwinked/sp/poor man's ww section will be covered. Thanx for that one. :thumbsup:
I really would consider desynch and monster misplacement to be far more important than moving targets. Every 4 frames a check is made, that's only 0.16 seconds, only the fastest monsters might be able to run away fast enough to cause missed hits.That check btw, searches for targets within a 5 range radius. Go into a mob with a short weapon (range 1) and often chosen targets will be too far away to hit. Range is extremely important then.
- You are willingly quoting my points but I doubt u are giving them thought, unlike someone above who did.
Even the fastest monster can't escape your range if u start your whirl right next to it,even with a wand. But if u are whirling like u
generally do-like I said & u quoted but failed to understand: i.e readjust your position when u approach a mob, so that your whirl covers as many monsters some will get hit some won't depending on the range.
What's really funny here is, I am getting lectured on points that I already know & made (all underlined above).
I don't come out here & say everything which comes to my mind-Thats why I often attach conditions to whatever I say, other ww vets understand what I meant & that,I know there are exceptions & that I do it to avoid exact such meaningless arguments. But the fact that I still get questioned & dragged into these time & again, is a little hard to comprehend.
I could just as well have ignored your post, since I believe others knew & understood what I said. I am just trying to help out & seek help for our effort especially from vets like u, the last thing I'd want is to offend someone.
To everyone else-if you have any request for our guide pm either me or puma-since we'll be cutting down our forum activity until our guide is done,for reasons like these.
rIK
edit:turkey,check ur pm-
I should have said I was talking to u,caz that way I dont need to spell out everything.I say it u get it.No offense anyone.
