Frenzy: Max Damage and Uber Guide 1.11

Re: Frenzy: Max Damage and Uber Guide 1.11

Hi, ive been working on putting together a uber frenzy barb and have a few question about gear, merc, and charms.

my gear so far:
6LL 185 arreats w/ias jewel
coh in ap
edeathz
ebotdz
highlords
2x ravenfrost
LoH
Dracs
nos coil
upped string of ears
upped gores
11/20 torch
14/19 anni

what i'm looking to buy:
17x all res sc
+3 warcries ammy
+3 warcries knives
5x warcries gcs

questions:
1. should i use LoH/string of ears for baal and diablo then dracs/nos coil for mephisto (i believe this is right but wanted to dbl. check)
2. should i only use one ravenfrost and get a 8LL/AR ring
3. exactly what charms should i use. i am never planning on buying rediculous multi stat carms. but if figure i have 17 avail slots after res charms, tomb of tp, buff ammy, anni, and torch. so should i use warcries gcs, life scs, ar gcs, or a combo of all.
4. from what i understad mercs die a lot in uber tristiam so is it even worth the trouble to have one
5. ive seen some ppl say to only use 10 res scs, but the way i figure it i will need 17 are my calulations wrong. -100 base res -130 convention aura +30 anya (dont plan on dieing so am including) +30 arreats +65 coh +20 torch +19 anni +56 nat res (1 hard pt +9 skls +1 btl command) this leaves me at -10 so i would need 17x all res sc to have max res.

p.s i only plan on using the char for ubers

thx in advance for any advice
 
Re: Frenzy: Max Damage and Uber Guide 1.11

1. What curse are you choosing, if you ditch lifetap when equipping LoH?
2. With Lifetap based, no way, go dual RF. For Amp/Decrep its good, but only when going axes, where Dex is irrevelent.
3. Get AR/Life GC's and AR/Life SC's. Add in a few RES/LIFE SC's and MAX/AR/LIFE SC's
The actual quality of these charms you equip, depends on your luck and/or wealth.
4. 50/50 there.
5. I only have a few, like 6, and i'm at 62%cold|75%fire|62%lite|64%poison so not sure why your so low, *after conviction.
Might need to recalculate there...
 
Re: Frenzy: Max Damage and Uber Guide 1.11

Hey, I'm real confused on what to do. Can someone just summarize the best possible gear to put on if I just want to have as much res, life, and strength as possible and dominate? Thanks, I'd really appreciate it.

Awesome guide by the way, best I've seen yet.
 
Re: Frenzy: Max Damage and Uber Guide 1.11

Hi there,

Was just curious. If I understand the role of the Lacerator correctly, and that is simply to OW and most importantly cast AMP, why do you need eLacerator? Aren't you getting AMP started and just immediately switching back to say, eBotd and eDeath to take advantage?

Thanks.
 
Re: Frenzy: Max Damage and Uber Guide 1.11

Lowers Dex and Str Req's by 10.
Higher damage always helps while yr at it.
 
Re: It's taking me too long (15-20min) to kill in UberTrist

kogetsu said:
Hi,

It's taking me too long to kill all three. Here are my stats and items:

Stats for Lvl 92 Frenzy barb using:
Arreats Face (ber)
Last Wish & Beast Zerkers
Maras amulet
Enigma
Laying of Hands
Bul Kathos & Raven Frost rings
Gore Riders boots
Dungos belt


Strength: 238
Dex: 177
Vit: 549
Eng: 113
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How does one get stats this high? I'd really like to know! I'm struggling to get anywhere close to the amount of Vitality he has...

Let's say all the items are perfect for sake of ease.
Arreats Face has 20 Str and 20 Dex; Beast has 40 Str and 10 Ene; Maras has 5 to all; Enigma has 69 Str(for lv 92); Ravenfrost has 20 Dex; Verdungos has 40 Vit; Anni has 20 to all; Torch has 20 to all(we'll assume this guy has a anni and torch too)

That gives +174 Str, +85 Dex, +85 Vit, and +55 Ene
Strength: 238-174 = 64
Dex: 177-85 = 92
Vit: 549-85 = 464
Eng: 113-55 = 58
Subtracting lv1 stats from that gives him 593 points allocated!
Could his base stats be anywhere that high? What am I missing?? Do other people have similar stats? I know I don't :sad2:


 
Re: Frenzy: Max Damage and Uber Guide 1.11

Hey im new to barb, and i play diablo2 lod now for 4 weeks. Im doing this barb now, but does anyone know if this can solo hell baal/minions and atleast good in uber? With some decent/normal gear? Im going sword with this, anyone know good swords for it?
 
Re: Frenzy: Max Damage and Uber Guide 1.11

Nice guide. Can I just ask you why no frenzy barbs use the fury runeword? In my eyes it's quite good.
 
Re: Frenzy: Max Damage and Uber Guide 1.11

Fury has outstanding mods for a Frenzier, but its physical damage, the one criteria that you just cant compromise, is just too damn low.

If it had:

409%ED instead of 209%ED and had the Indestructible mod, I would probably make it in an ethereal Colossal Blade and replace my ebotdcb for it.
Until that happens, lol, I'll never make one.
 
Re: Frenzy: Max Damage and Uber Guide 1.11

great guide. Did anyone ever consider using steelrend gloves instead of draculs? If you use LW you wouldnt need the LT from dracul. I wonder if the 60% ED on steeldrend is worth something for the frenzy build.
How much ll would a good frenzy barb need? without dracul i would only have 5 from BK ring and 6 from arreat. Would this be sufficient in hel?
 
Re: Frenzy: Max Damage and Uber Guide 1.11

Great guide, I'm redoing my frenz barb after reading this (I put way too much into str).


One clarification though...

If I go the Lifetap route, it's best to use a LW (i'm going with axes) with either dracs or steelrends (as bavadeli pointed out above), but what's the best weapons to use if I go the AMP or DEC routes?

Right now I have a Ebotdz and a Beastz (freakin great dmg with Fanat but I have to repair it more often than I have to repair my 40 year old dodge charger).

Also, what belts work best per each uber? I have a dungos and a nosferatu.

And lastly, better to use a maras or highlords?


Thanks in advance. ANd thanks to Spankeh for this awesome guide.
 
Re: Frenzy: Max Damage and Uber Guide 1.11

Quick question. In the guide it says no hard points in strength and dex are needed if using axes. Most of the items are high strength requirements, so do I spend some points in strength? Or am I supposed to use charms or something to get the strength needed to use my items?

I have as follows: no Anni yet :(

19/14 Barb torch
Archon Plate Enigma
Arreats Face
BOTDZ
EBOTDZ (yes only one is etheral)
Verdungos Cord
Ravenfrost x2
Goreriders
Highlords Amulet
Draculs Gloves


Base strenght is 30, +19 from torch= 49. If I managed to aquire an Anni, that would be 20 more strength at most, which would still be short of the item requirements.

Lastly, my barb is lvl 83 with no skill or stat points used yet, so I felt I should post here before spending stat point in the wrong area.
 
Re: Frenzy: Max Damage and Uber Guide 1.11

Its loosely regarded wise to not spend points in strength when going with axes and then ubering, to gain maximum life from Vitality spenditure, and usually gain str from items like Arreats, Dracs, Enigma, anni and torch.
A little here or there will definately not hurt your build, and will add a little more damage aswell.
One or 2 str charms are good, with Max/AR prefix beneficial.
 
Re: Frenzy: Max Damage and Uber Guide 1.11

maybe a quick tip for those with life problems: get the unique ring: nature's peace. It can give you lvl 5 oak sage: thats 50% life increase! That make's it a very nice pre-buffer equip. You can even cast/summon it in town.
 
Re: Frenzy: Max Damage and Uber Guide 1.11

Sorry to be picky, but this calculation is wrong:
5000 x.5 = 2500 x.2 = 500 x.1 = 50 life per hit

= means is the same as
So basically it says 5000 x 0.5 is the same as 2500 x 0.2 which is the same as 500 x 0.1 whixh is the same as 50
But 5000 x 0.5 is 2500 and 2500 x 0.2 is 500 and 500 x 0.1 is 50

So, it says that 2500=500=50

but 2500 isn't the same as 500 or 50. What it should say is either

5000 x 0.5 x 0.2 x 0.1 = 50
Or it should say
5000 x 0.5=2500
2500 x 0.2= 500
500 x 0.1= 50
(meaning putting them in separate calulations)

Also, you get 110 skill points altogether, not 111
 
Re: Frenzy: Max Damage and Uber Guide 1.11

bavadeli said:
maybe a quick tip for those with life problems: get the unique ring: nature's peace. It can give you lvl 5 oak sage: thats 50% life increase! That make's it a very nice pre-buffer equip. You can even cast/summon it in town.
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Too bad you can't let go of Nature's Peace without letting go of Oak Sage.

Question: I'm playing a Frenzier with Beast/eBotdz, and my Merc barb is using Last Wish on an eth colossus sword (jerk who used it before whittled endurance down). Why in the blue hell my stats, particularly damage, aren't reflecting 18 lvl Might and 9 lvl Fanaticism auras?



 
Re: Frenzy: Max Damage and Uber Guide 1.11

studmuffinkelv said:
lifetap is a fad created by smiters because smite doesn't leech.
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Vouch

My frenzy has
Tyraels Might (Its blue)
eOath Small Crescent
eDeathz
LoH
Arreats
upped 199 gores
highlords
240/20 raven
ar/6ll/15str/22lr ring
Upped, Perfect String
2x Echoing Glaives of Carnage (Black, style points)
2wc gcs
few random 100+ar 30+ life gcs
random max/ar scs
Btorch/Anni

Prebuff with treachery/demonlimb
5k hp
75Light res after conv

Used no life tap, solo, easy. Rarely potted, few manas on baal usually to keep OW up after his mana burn spamming.

Ubers are stupid easy with life tap. Pack some RES CB OW and there done.

In the beginning i used:
Black-Tyrant Club (runeword, cheap CB)
Uniq Razoredge axe (for OW/DS)
Gores
6CB crafted gloves (self made)
Rare 24 Str ammy (bc i didn't want to remake)
Low Low Raven frost
Rare Str ring with some life leech
155/3ll no sock arreats
Durials Shell (res)
Random 20-30 light res GCs, around 4 Plus few light SCs
No Btorch
Low Anni
no merc
2x Echoing Glaives (plain, zero style points) Bought from Anya (use the red portal to refresh her inv, its fast.
Life around 4k give or take, can't remember
Had no Prebuffing other than warcry glaives

Half this stuff you can find in free games, or while your leveling your character.
Dracs were spendy at the time (beginning of ladder)

I used a Wand with Life Tap charges (100-200k gold Act 1, Akara) replace one glaive after the initial BO for easy recasting.

Note there is only One Rune Word (Black) and after a few countess runs you can make one yourself (Thul io Nef) Though its best in a scourge, i got impatient and used a socket quest on a tyrant club i found in cows.

All in All if its your first time just try to have positive light res after the -125, have some CB and lil OW (only gores is tough if your starting *razor edge*) and you will Pwn them slowly but surely. And Howl!!


 
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