Frenzy: Max Damage and Uber Guide 1.11
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Since beast would be unavailable to you with swords, i would use a death or a grief. My axe frenzier uses beast/last wish for ubers, my sword frenizer i use grief/death, which works fine for pvm but would be hard for ubers. Personally, if you've got gores on, and your already using last wish, i would go with a grief pb for more damage, as your cb should already be high enough.
-Majaii
-Majaii
Checked and almost confirmed - this barb is better then smiter 
Why almost?
Look here:
http://www.purediablo.com/forums/showthread.php?p=5450689
I had no problem with catching Meph. I've lost no more then 25% life during fight (pala lose 90%). Little bit difficult was last moment, when Meph had little life - sometimes he even healed althought I've hit him quite often (lack of DS ?). I thought that highlord and CS from axe mastery would be sufficient.
My gear:
2xLW, arreat (IAS/ED jool), CoH, Nosferatu, IK boots and Gloves - had IAS bonus from fana lvl 9 (beast). Do not know what could happen later because game collapsed :S
I'm going to use gore next time and another gloves but no draculs (nn more LT)
Thanks for great guide
Why almost?
Look here:
http://www.purediablo.com/forums/showthread.php?p=5450689
I had no problem with catching Meph. I've lost no more then 25% life during fight (pala lose 90%). Little bit difficult was last moment, when Meph had little life - sometimes he even healed althought I've hit him quite often (lack of DS ?). I thought that highlord and CS from axe mastery would be sufficient.
My gear:
2xLW, arreat (IAS/ED jool), CoH, Nosferatu, IK boots and Gloves - had IAS bonus from fana lvl 9 (beast). Do not know what could happen later because game collapsed :S
I'm going to use gore next time and another gloves but no draculs (nn more LT)
Thanks for great guide
Hey I think I remember you. You helped me with ubers the other time right ? Do you have a guide to your Barb ? Maybe I will use axes instead for higher damage.
How about BotD + LW . Will these 2 combinations work ?
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Ash Housewares1
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I am way late, but I just wanted to say I am glad to see people writing frenzy guides
and thank you for mentioning mine
in particular, I like abandoning leap/whirlwind/berserk we've been coddled by these skills too long, frenzy does everything!!! the skills of old are a waste and we must be rid of them!
and thank you for mentioning mine
in particular, I like abandoning leap/whirlwind/berserk we've been coddled by these skills too long, frenzy does everything!!! the skills of old are a waste and we must be rid of them!
Not bad with the guide, although I thought a few points were left out 
Help
Think I'll be able to kill last 3 ubers (baal, meph, diablo). And in what order should i try to approach them? Also I'm pretty sure i should use string instead of verdungo being the LL... Reason i ask is b/c i was wondering if my setup could hit by himself being i don't any friends i trust to help.
STATS:
2.5k damage w/ azure
2k damage w/grief
160dex
320 vita 3.8k life
My equip
PB Grief
Azurewrath (eth socketed)
Valor
2xRaven 200+ ar x 19dex
Draculs
GoreRiders
1xHighlord
1x String w/8 LL
1x Vendungos
Plenty life and damage charm
Think I'll be able to kill last 3 ubers (baal, meph, diablo). And in what order should i try to approach them? Also I'm pretty sure i should use string instead of verdungo being the LL... Reason i ask is b/c i was wondering if my setup could hit by himself being i don't any friends i trust to help.
STATS:
2.5k damage w/ azure
2k damage w/grief
160dex
320 vita 3.8k life
My equip
PB Grief
Azurewrath (eth socketed)
Valor
2xRaven 200+ ar x 19dex
Draculs
GoreRiders
1xHighlord
1x String w/8 LL
1x Vendungos
Plenty life and damage charm
This will probably sound dumb, but why does my BotD PB do more dmg than my Grief PB according to the character screen? I thought with the +392 dmg the Grief would far exceed the BotD. Does it not show the +392 on that screen? Im starting to think that at 85 I should switch the Grief to Azure with a possible Ohm...
thoughts?
thoughts?
Cppo-The-Wild
New member
the grief's added +3xx dmg doesn't appear on you char screen... grief does way more avg dmg though than your botd in reality
Excellent, thats what i wanted to hear. One more question about Frenzy barb that i dont understand... What does it matter what sword is in what hand? And on the Inv screen is the left side his left hand and right his right? Sounds dumb, but when you put the stuff on it faces you, so I thought it may be opposite of that.
I've decided to make a BotD Colossus and pair it with the Grief. my alternate will be the Grief PB with the Azurwrath for PI.
I've decided to make a BotD Colossus and pair it with the Grief. my alternate will be the Grief PB with the Azurwrath for PI.
My frenzy barb will be level 90 soon.
Currently equipped:
low def 5%ll Arreats with 15ias/11max jewel (found it in hellcows)
highlord's amulet
CoH AP
ebotdz + edeathz
9%ll 12str dracul's
ravenfrostx2 (both with around 240ar)
7%ll 15%dr string of ears
gore riders
btorch & anni
hp post pre-buff = 5500
lifeleech = 29% (41 on my ebotd)
post-conviction resistance = -12% fire, -12% poison, -2% cold, +23% lightning
With maxxed axe mastery, I have over 100% chance to do double damage on my death, and somewhere near 60% to do double damage on my botd. I'm sitting just under 9k attack rating and I completely annihilate anything that isn't phys immune.
I'm nonladder, so dual lawbringers will be just about as tough to find as two eth lacerators. Lacerators will take benefit of my axe mastery and allow me to proc amp faster and switch back to the big guns. Not to mention the rather low duration of decrepify forcing several weapon swaps.
My problem is that I fit in the decrep suggestion, and my only two options are lifetap and amp. With my gear, would you suggest dual eth lacerators for amp or stick with the dracul's for lifetap? I just worry that the low 5% chance to proc lifetap could mean I'd be dead before making use of any procs. And I believe with amp dmg, I'd have more than enough lifeleech to stay alive vs the ubers (although I bet I'd have to chug full rejuvies during meph). I have treachery on a mule if that really is a requirement for doing this with amp curse (although i'm low on inventory space as it is).
Currently equipped:
low def 5%ll Arreats with 15ias/11max jewel (found it in hellcows)
highlord's amulet
CoH AP
ebotdz + edeathz
9%ll 12str dracul's
ravenfrostx2 (both with around 240ar)
7%ll 15%dr string of ears
gore riders
btorch & anni
hp post pre-buff = 5500
lifeleech = 29% (41 on my ebotd)
post-conviction resistance = -12% fire, -12% poison, -2% cold, +23% lightning
With maxxed axe mastery, I have over 100% chance to do double damage on my death, and somewhere near 60% to do double damage on my botd. I'm sitting just under 9k attack rating and I completely annihilate anything that isn't phys immune.
I'm nonladder, so dual lawbringers will be just about as tough to find as two eth lacerators. Lacerators will take benefit of my axe mastery and allow me to proc amp faster and switch back to the big guns. Not to mention the rather low duration of decrepify forcing several weapon swaps.
My problem is that I fit in the decrep suggestion, and my only two options are lifetap and amp. With my gear, would you suggest dual eth lacerators for amp or stick with the dracul's for lifetap? I just worry that the low 5% chance to proc lifetap could mean I'd be dead before making use of any procs. And I believe with amp dmg, I'd have more than enough lifeleech to stay alive vs the ubers (although I bet I'd have to chug full rejuvies during meph). I have treachery on a mule if that really is a requirement for doing this with amp curse (although i'm low on inventory space as it is).
I don't think that the edeathz is the best choice for ubers...I prefer lwz for the CTC life tap, prebuff fade, prevent monster heal, ignore def and the might aura doesn't exactly hurt the damage output of the ebotdz....the only problem I have with it is the frequent repair trips I need to make.....
I just now did some calculations on the damage difference between lw and death. Using my stats and chance to deadly-strike with each weapon, i come up with these results:
frenzy dmg with both weapons added:
ebotdz + edeathz: 5377-16529
ebotdz + lwz (lvl17 might aura included): 5043-15316
I didn't include the chance to cast charged bolt on lw or the chance to cast glacial spike on death since there wasn't an option for those procs. I also didn't add in anything for a might merc, since I still haven't decided on what I want in a merc. I'm perfectly happy with ebotdz + edeathz in normal pvm since i swing so fast dracs will normally proc before anything can knock my 5k health down. I have yet to try ubers, although I have 2/3 organs sitting on my barb already. Also, I believe ITD doesn't work on uniques, bosses, and ubers. My only problem atm is deciding on dropping 20 HRs for two eth lacerators to try something that might not work for ubers, or dropping 8-10hrs on a last wish that'll own ubers yet still leave me hating phys immunes.
and to Galpha:
From what I've read, you want the weapon with more IAS to be sitting above your gloves on the equipment screen. The IAS from the weapon above the boots isn't even included in the calculations. So let's say you're dual-wielding GFs. If you have shael on one and ohm on the other, you'll want the shael'd GF above the gloves and the ohm'd GF above the boots.
frenzy dmg with both weapons added:
ebotdz + edeathz: 5377-16529
ebotdz + lwz (lvl17 might aura included): 5043-15316
I didn't include the chance to cast charged bolt on lw or the chance to cast glacial spike on death since there wasn't an option for those procs. I also didn't add in anything for a might merc, since I still haven't decided on what I want in a merc. I'm perfectly happy with ebotdz + edeathz in normal pvm since i swing so fast dracs will normally proc before anything can knock my 5k health down. I have yet to try ubers, although I have 2/3 organs sitting on my barb already. Also, I believe ITD doesn't work on uniques, bosses, and ubers. My only problem atm is deciding on dropping 20 HRs for two eth lacerators to try something that might not work for ubers, or dropping 8-10hrs on a last wish that'll own ubers yet still leave me hating phys immunes.
and to Galpha:
From what I've read, you want the weapon with more IAS to be sitting above your gloves on the equipment screen. The IAS from the weapon above the boots isn't even included in the calculations. So let's say you're dual-wielding GFs. If you have shael on one and ohm on the other, you'll want the shael'd GF above the gloves and the ohm'd GF above the boots.
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