Fredsta54's javazon cow mf mini guide

An update:

I got a +2 ammy and am around lvl 74. What I'd like to do is have my Zon be able to create cows (I've been waiting to do the Hell Diablo quest because I've been doing pub cow games and I don't want some virgin hell cow barb WWing the king for the win), but I also want to kill the king.

There would be NO WAY for the javazon to accidently kill the king. You'd just do physical jav dmg - like one tick off. Meanwhile the king's gaydar is going off in the form of lightning enchant waves.

I like to have my mf bliz sorc come in after all of the cows have been laid down and kill the king. (Private games of course)

This lets me get the kill on the king who can drop GOOD SHIZNIT... like for instance, according to ATMA drop calc, hell cow king is the top dropper for rare Grim Helms (1/300~) and Grim Shields (1/150~!!!) (which is pretty damn good odds - MUCH better than Andariel/SOJ or even Coldcrow/Gull). Another good thing about killing the Hell Cow King in sp bnet pw'ed games is that his drops are affected by the number of players in the game!

Two problems with this approach (that I can see):

Javazon cowing one player is... meh. The drop chances go up on normal cows when more players are in the game.

With Javazon maker, Javazon shouldn't play public games for fear of getting quest. (You really don't want to have to play 3 people in this process: a maker/zon/king killer)

So basically the cowing would go like:
Zon creates pw game
Zon gets leg and creates cows
Zon cows all except king (and li uniques)
Switch chars to MF Sorc and she kills king

I'm thinking this will work - I just need to pour on the Lightning stack on the MF sorc - I'm thinking a 3 topaz shield and high lr/mf boots? (I can still get 400 mf w/o shield - woot)

Anybody see any flaws in my logic? (before I get D quest for zon and milk jug the king with my sorc)
 
quadeddie said:
An update:

I got a +2 ammy and am around lvl 74. What I'd like to do is have my Zon be able to create cows (I've been waiting to do the Hell Diablo quest because I've been doing pub cow games and I don't want some virgin hell cow barb WWing the king for the win), but I also want to kill the king.

There would be NO WAY for the javazon to accidently kill the king. You'd just do physical jav dmg - like one tick off. Meanwhile the king's gaydar is going off in the form of lightning enchant waves.

I like to have my mf bliz sorc come in after all of the cows have been laid down and kill the king. (Private games of course)

This lets me get the kill on the king who can drop GOOD SHIZNIT... like for instance, according to ATMA drop calc, hell cow king is the top dropper for rare Grim Helms (1/300~) and Grim Shields (1/150~!!!) (which is pretty damn good odds - MUCH better than Andariel/SOJ or even Coldcrow/Gull). Another good thing about killing the Hell Cow King in sp bnet pw'ed games is that his drops are affected by the number of players in the game!

Two problems with this approach (that I can see):

Javazon cowing one player is... meh. The drop chances go up on normal cows when more players are in the game.

With Javazon maker, Javazon shouldn't play public games for fear of getting quest. (You really don't want to have to play 3 people in this process: a maker/zon/king killer)

So basically the cowing would go like:
Zon creates pw game
Zon gets leg and creates cows
Zon cows all except king (and li uniques)
Switch chars to MF Sorc and she kills king

I'm thinking this will work - I just need to pour on the Lightning stack on the MF sorc - I'm thinking a 3 topaz shield and high lr/mf boots? (I can still get 400 mf w/o shield - woot)

Anybody see any flaws in my logic? (before I get D quest for zon and milk jug the king with my sorc)
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In my opinion a perfect way to get rich... I did this when I started except I would have a friend get on his zon she would kill everything leave, then I would blast the king with mf Blizz sorc and get while he got all other drops and we continued this for a while.
 
Re: Fredsta54's javazon cow mf mini guide

Is it possible to kill the king with psn jav and go back town. Can i still make cows after?
 
Re: Fredsta54's javazon cow mf mini guide

that's one great question..... NO idea!!!

i presume since u are in town (if u do it right...fast enough) u do *NOT* complete the quest (aka, u can still make).

but maybe your poison stops working if u go to town too so king won't die....

no idea!!!
 
Re: Fredsta54's javazon cow mf mini guide

Not sure how much poison damage you can do with a java or over what timespan it does it's damage, but the king has a *lot* of life.
No resists though, so the elemental damage you do should suffice to kill him.
But there is only one way to test that theory. Probably the easiest with 2 people, one of which with a char which cannot open norm anymore.
Open a cow level on norm, clear out all cows except the king with that second char while your zon is in town.
once only the king is left, get your zon in there, make a portal, throw your java and head to town. The other person will be able to tell you if the king has died from overexposure to your 'soup du jour'.
If the king does not die from the first java, try again, first make the portal and then throw the java. The other person can also help by luring the king trough your poison trail.
 
Re: Fredsta54's javazon cow mf mini guide

a quick snippet to warlock's post

that second char can reduce king's life if your poison damage isn't enough to do so on it own and of course u'd ahve to be careful not to kill king accidentally with that 2nd char

or

obviously, it be smart to do this on norm king and surely the poison of a maxed out poison skill and synergies will be able to kill norm king. to even greater effect, that second char can be a conviction paladin (i think conviction lowers PR too..) and/or a third char with LR too for gauranteed death by poison to norm king:D

or

an alternative to poison is OW. you could try with OW too.
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i'm interested out of curiousity about whether the quest will be completed or not in this manner. very very intriguing question!!! great question!!
 
Re: Fredsta54's javazon cow mf mini guide

a pure poison zon will be able to kill norm kil in a few seconds, and nightmare king fast enough, havent tried my psn java in hell cows tho



Fred
 
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