Perhaps I missed it, have you placed a vote?
numbers, have anyone you want to vote for yet?
Unvote: Numbers
Vote: Zauper
Forum Mafia - The Dark Tower Game Thread
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Perhaps I missed it, have you placed a vote?
numbers, have anyone you want to vote for yet?
Unvote: Numbers
Vote: Zauper
I think i was the first to point out his fishing for roles and soles (those are often lost in bodies of water, right?)
BipolarChemist
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Psh, lose a dissing battle and auto go to homoeroticism, I would say that's admitting defeat.
Look at these Canadian combos. Nearly a full combo for the page, actually.
I think I forgot to say this earlier but Sath's "pure OMGUS" vote on Gwaihir that he tagged with a "more later' really smelt to me like someone was trying to lead suspicion onto Gwaihir. It came off to me like an investigative conclusion of some sort.
I think I forgot to say this earlier but Sath's "pure OMGUS" vote on Gwaihir that he tagged with a "more later' really smelt to me like someone was trying to lead suspicion onto Gwaihir. It came off to me like an investigative conclusion of some sort.
I honestly don't know but I would consider it. I think I'd do it differently. I'd probably slow play it (name and/or role first, then the other later). I may or may not fake or hint at a power role. It would depend how much pressure was on. At any rate, I don't think a VT in that situation is unbeneficial, odd, or early.
Advantages/Disadvantages:
- Can't "eat a NK" while saving a PR
- Lack of confirmed status
- WIFOM, especially in light of fake claims
+ Clears a log jam for the daily lynch - avoids no lynches
+ Better to claim early than late so there is still time to lynch scum that day
+ Clarity of a claim helps power roles target at night
+ Moves the game forward by getting info, however small, out in the open
+ Provides a concrete claim with which to adjudicate not only the claimer but everyone else involved in the conversation
+ Always a chance the claim can be corroborated then or in the future
Maybe some more but I think those are the biggies.
Taken together, I think the pros outweigh the cons. I think that type of claim is abstractly a pro-town move. Always possible is the possibility of scum faking such a pro-town move but that just shows how pro-town the move is. Never underestimate the power of timely claims.
Phillinnicus
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BipolarChemist
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But you would have to think before posting that, that people are going to question the claim and possibly cause much more confusion. Plus if he is VT, then any investigative roles might waste a night trying to prove this, when they could have tried for someone they deemed more scummy at that point.
I've played mostly IRC mafia/werewolf. The game is simple in terms of roles and actions. You only have mafia/werewolf, doctor, seer, and towns people. mafia/werewolf know who each other are and communicate through private messages and send their target to a bot that runs everything. I did play mafia in university with groups between 7-20, but there were no added roles. My mafia/werewolf world has become quite a bit larger by just being here.
BipolarChemist
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Hey, Mouse Tea, What do you think of this supposed connection between Bad Ash and Kestegs?
Also, what are your thoughts on some of the other new players? (Zap and Numbah)
Also, what are your thoughts on some of the other new players? (Zap and Numbah)
MouseT has been quiet as a mouse. I'm afraid of mice. Never know when they dash out to bite you.
Numbers isn't looking townie. He implies Pyro was a power role (234). He let us decide about cdm (355) and blamed us that cdm wasn't lynched (491). He let us decide about thefranklin and blamed us that didn't turn out well (491). I don't recall any of Numbers' own thoughts regarding either.
I think I like Zauper's style. That doesn't translate into trust mind you. He's said some jaw dropping things, but the jaw dropping may be a result of different game environment. I'll have to reread.
A lot of your problems assume that the person claiming is who they claim to be. Unfortunately a vt claim is very hard to prove particularly in a game where mafia have free fake claims.
At least they aren't mouse droppings. Someone remind me to go back and read those posts you just pointed out. I want to see if it's just your interpretation or if it comes across that way to me too.
I felt a little sad panda at first, but I realize I haven't posted anything that could provide a decent read. So I guess i'm a happy hippo?
Noammr I'd lean towards scum because he isn't doing anything productive thus far. He's posted a grand total of 8 times.
BipolarChemist has posted a lot but they've generally been short and sarcastic or generally not contributory town posts either. I'm probably more neutral on him. I currently would say I feel like he's the most town.
Kestegs I'm still leaning heavily towards scum because I don't think claiming a town PR when not being pressed is a pro-town move. I don't really like his justification, and I find that generally, good scum tend to just ignore votes on them and continue about their business (as he has been) and people forget about it.
My main hesitation comes from two things:
1) If he is a town role, I wouldn't want to force him to claim (though that he's claimed a role puts him at risk anyway). I guess if we had a doc, and we decided to not lynch him, he would be a good protect.
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2) The other case against him just feels entirely unconvincing to me and I'm hesitant to be aboard someone that could get bandwagoned, which is why I unvoted.
coju -- I'll be honest and tell you I just re-read the last 6 pages and don't see his full name anywhere so I can't pull up his post history to look through it. Can you remind me?
With 4 votes on me and 19 alive, it's 10 to lynch. That's 6 votes, potentially in mafia bandwagon territory, especially with only 20 hours left in day.
That statement is accurate at all times of the game. I maintain it's LESS questionable and confusion inducing in the middle of D1 than some other times. Perhaps many other times.
That's a risk of not claiming as well. I think investigative roles are more likely to investigate cdm if he doesn't claim than if he did.
Kestegs
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I'm not the kind of guy that generally votes early in the day.
Sounds interesting, if someone is nice they'll quote them all so I don't have to look them up in the morning.
I feel like there is a connection between Bash Ash and Kestegs, but I'm having a hard time determining what is scummy behavior and what is not. I also can't decide if connections can exist cross allies. We know Bash Ash was 'red', but can a connection exist between red and neutral?
I actually know Zap from another game I used to play that involves a lot of diplomacy. We've had a few conversations in the past and I feel that the language he's using isn't any different then what I'm used to seeing. I'm also not ready to label him as scum. I think he's just being very particular about how he presents himself.
No real feeling on Numbah yet.
IWantToUseNumbersInMyName
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I actually voted for cdm again, mainly because the VT claim is still super weird and as cg pointed out, basically scums wet dream as an excuse to just skim by without ever getting nk'd.
IWantToUseNumbersInMyName
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Oh, and I'll quote what Goryani pointed out myself and save you all the trouble, since I went to go see what I said to see how he interpreted it the way he did. 
#234
#355
#491
I'll just let you all read these and see if you agree with Goryani's interpretation.
#234
#355
#491
I'll just let you all read these and see if you agree with Goryani's interpretation.
BipolarChemist
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But do you have more reasoning other than the VT claim? What are your thoughts on CDM as a player thus far?
