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[coju]

I don't see antanswer in that list, either. Who's to say freddy isn't throwing and under the bus to try and gain townpoints?
I'm willing to test this
Vote: IWantToUseNumberInMyName

 

[IWantToUseNumbersInMyName]

Other strongman classes: Guns, which are used by chemists and mediators, can't be dodged, in tactics at least. Dragoon jumps are also unstoppable. Those seem far less likely than knight however. None of them are really perfect analogues, but knight is probably the best.

AAA...some more info on cover would indeed be fantastic.

 

[IWantToUseNumbersInMyName]

Other strongman classes: Guns, which are used by chemists and mediators, can't be dodged, in tactics at least. Dragoon jumps are also unstoppable. Those seem far less likely than knight however. None of them are really perfect analogues, but knight is probably the best.

AAA...some more info on cover would indeed be fantastic.

Also, FoE: Sorry, When you mentioned your first post I just read up to the part where you listed the various roles and responded with information on just those roles. I didn't mean to avoid the question because I didn't realize there was more specific information you were looking for.

 

[FredOfErik]

I don't see antanswer in that list, either. Who's to say freddy isn't throwing and under the bus to try and gain townpoints?
I'm willing to test this
Vote: IWantToUseNumberInMyName

What list?

And "who's to say bus crap" can be said to pretty much anybody calling anybody scum. What's your point?


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[coju]

What list?

And "who's to say bus crap" can be said to pretty much anybody calling anybody scum. What's your point?


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this list

My thoughts on people:
- Well, I've been skeptical since the beginning, but I think I'm believing Zokar now. Unless something else comes up, I think he's probably clean.

- Moar smoked Drixx super fast, which is f'd up, but otherwise hasn't been giving me much in scummy vibes and the story seems to check out. Not sure, but not really ready to vote yet.

- I've been on the fence about BA, but the Squire read from JCakes lends some credibility.

- I haven't had any scum read from JCakes, so I'm leaning toward believing his claim.

- Coju seems to be expressing a lot of the same thoughts I have, especially about Goryani, and he feels above board to me.

- Noodle has been super-lurky, if I was in lynch-all-lurkers mode, he'd be at the top of the list.

- Goldtru hasn't been giving me much concern since yesterday. I wasn't around to post while the fire-fight was going on, but my own emotions were running pretty high while reading it all, so I can't judge her reactions too harshly.

...I don't have many explicit feelings about anyone else atm.

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- Gory:

IWantToUseNumbers has it right. What do you do when you're not sure who is scum? What can you do with your vote? So far this has left us with NOTHING to go on.

Anyway, I've been getting a strange vibe off of you all game and it keeps getting worse and worse. I do not see you as town at all. You are right about one thing, I should vote for scum.

Vote: Goryani

You tout messed up strategy. You suggest a mass-claim then refuse to claim. If you're not gonna claim, I'm not gonna claim until you're gone. You've been hitting scum notes everyday, and now I hear the tune loud and clear.

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I don't think I've ever survived long enough in a game for it to come up! Seems kind of odd to me too, but I'm not a mid-to-late-game veteran.

bad ash quoted it in #603

 

[coju]

And "who's to say bus crap" can be said to pretty much anybody calling anybody scum. What's your point?

You may indeed be right, but as for all the many times 'busing' has been brought up, you're the only one to make this point.
Which, almost confirms BA's conclusions.

 

[coju]

Which leads me to use some of my favorite quotes from people when they've hit the nail on the head, "Sock, meet Foot" and, "Hand, meet Glove."

 

[IWantToUseNumbersInMyName]

I don't see antanswer in that list, either. Who's to say freddy isn't throwing and under the bus to try and gain townpoints?
I'm willing to test this
Vote: IWantToUseNumberInMyName

Why do you suggest that FoE is throwing Ant(I assume that's what you meant to type) under the bus, and claim to be willing to test that. then vote for me? Care to explain the connection there?

Also, do you truly believe that I spent a day trying to get techno lynched when the town wasn't taking any action that would threaten the scum, when I was his partner?

 

[coju]

Why do you suggest that FoE is throwing Ant(I assume that's what you meant to type) under the bus, and claim to be willing to test that. then vote for me? Care to explain the connection there?

Also, do you truly believe that I spent a day trying to get techno lynched when the town wasn't taking any action that would threaten the scum, when I was his partner?

I am unable to explain my post, it is what it is. I may, or may not, have confused names.

I do know this, I do not believe Frederik's claim of "doc". Afaik, there has not been a 'normal' role this game. No 'cop', 'doc', 'jailkeeper', 'spy', 'etc'. There have been skills that mimic these roles, but nothing as so much as a cop or doc or whathaveyou.

I was cautious of numbersinmyname a couple of game-days ago, so my vote for him is fine to me. AlienANTfarm may or may not be on my radar, but MYNA#####sME and Fred are.

 

[IWantToUseNumbersInMyName]

I am unable to explain my post, it is what it is. I may, or may not, have confused names.

I do know this, I do not believe Frederik's claim of "doc". Afaik, there has not been a 'normal' role this game. No 'cop', 'doc', 'jailkeeper', 'spy', 'etc'. There have been skills that mimic these roles, but nothing as so much as a cop or doc or whathaveyou.

I was cautious of numbersinmyname a couple of game-days ago, so my vote for him is fine to me. AlienANTfarm may or may not be on my radar, but MYNA#####sME and Fred are.

Fair enough. FYI, fred never claimed doc, he claimed white mage, a couple days ago close to day end, and then when I pressed him on the details of his powers as white mage, since jcakes had already claimed white mage and claimed scan, he said he had doc powers. I don't know if I trust him either on the doc claim btw, but if he is fake claiming doc the only reason I can see for that is specifically to cast suspicion on AAA right now with the strongman line of questioning. Otherwise, there's little reason as a scum fake claiming doctor to bring up the idea that a shot was just made through doctor protection.

Also, you still haven't answered my question. A more thorough claim please coju. Used powers and their effects...I don't want to know what you're still able to do, but I would like to know what you have done to who, when, and why you did those things.

Also...your post is extremely confusing. Is this deliberate?

 

[FredOfErik]

I do know this, I do not believe Frederik's claim of "doc". Afaik, there has not been a 'normal' role this game. No 'cop', 'doc', 'jailkeeper', 'spy', 'etc'. There have been skills that mimic these roles, but nothing as so much as a cop or doc or whathaveyou.

You are completely right on the "no normal roles" part. IIRC (too lazy/drunk to check) what I claimed was "I am a doc". To elaborate a bit, I'm a white mage with the ability cure, and my powers are equal to what we all know as a doctor - i may every night target a player and protect that player from a night kill.

Fair enough. FYI, fred never claimed doc, he claimed white mage, a couple days ago close to day end, and then when I pressed him on the details of his powers as white mage, since jcakes had already claimed white mage and claimed scan, he said he had doc powers. I don't know if I trust him either on the doc claim btw, but if he is fake claiming doc the only reason I can see for that is specifically to cast suspicion on AAA right now with the strongman line of questioning. Otherwise, there's little reason as a scum fake claiming doctor to bring up the idea that a shot was just made through doctor protection.

Also, you still haven't answered my question. A more thorough claim please coju. Used powers and their effects...I don't want to know what you're still able to do, but I would like to know what you have done to who, when, and why you did those things.

Also...your post is extremely confusing. Is this deliberate?

Please, be more obvious. Coju has claimed to have "potions that help fellow combatants" or something in the line of that. You, in this day phase, said pushing defensive roles to claim was a scum move. You said that you "were sorry" for doing it to me yesterday, and now you are doing the exact same thing. What do you hope to gain from your question? Why would you ask for somebody to give up previous targets, when they are so easy to fake claim (no watcher/tracker claimed)? Why do you assume that coju has multiple abilities (only want to know what he has used, not what he is able to use)?

To me this, in combination with everything I've already mentioned, stinks rolefishing (poorly) disguised as scumhunting. I still very much want to see AAA gone, but in combination with this post:

Yes, the break abilities are reasonable assumptions to use to indicate a strongman.

that was not followed by a vote on AAA, I'm willing to bet they are on the same team. I don't care who we lynch first.

Unvote: AAA
Vote: Numbers

 

[IWantToUseNumbersInMyName]

You are completely right on the "no normal roles" part. IIRC (too lazy/drunk to check) what I claimed was "I am a doc". To elaborate a bit, I'm a white mage with the ability cure, and my powers are equal to what we all know as a doctor - i may every night target a player and protect that player from a night kill.



Please, be more obvious. Coju has claimed to have "potions that help fellow combatants" or something in the line of that. You, in this day phase, said pushing defensive roles to claim was a scum move. You said that you "were sorry" for doing it to me yesterday, and now you are doing the exact same thing. What do you hope to gain from your question? Why would you ask for somebody to give up previous targets, when they are so easy to fake claim (no watcher/tracker claimed)? Why do you assume that coju has multiple abilities (only want to know what he has used, not what he is able to use)?

To me this, in combination with everything I've already mentioned, stinks rolefishing (poorly) disguised as scumhunting. I still very much want to see AAA gone, but in combination with this post:



that was not followed by a vote on AAA, I'm willing to bet they are on the same team. I don't care who we lynch first.

Unvote: AAA
Vote: Numbers

Again, i did not say pushing defensive roles to claim was a scum thing. I said that it was more likely to help scum than town, and wanted BA to tell me *why* he wanted to know more about my power, and how it would help town more than scum if I told him more.

In coju's case, what he's said he can do is extremely vague. Help fellow combatants? Why should we even believe that? Is he a JoAT? Is he an inventor? If he is, has anyone received anything from him, and if they have have they used it, and what were the results?

His power is EXTREMELY vague, as stated. At least with AAA we can make some sort of guess at what his power allows him to do. With coju there's nothing at all. I don't necessarily think he's scummy, but I do think his claim needs to be more fleshed out at this point, considering we're probably in lylo(which, btw, is something you should all be quite aware of. I'm two votes from being locked, and if not scum/scum haven't already voted for me, I'll be locked soon. You should pay attention to who finishes off this lynch because I will not flip scum, and 3 votes on non scum is a golden opportunity to lock in a game ending lynch)

 

[IWantToUseNumbersInMyName]

Another point, about the LYLO thing: Everyone here is experienced enough to know that throwing votes around on LYLO is extremely poor play. All you do is set up the scum to all get online and notice they can swoop on someone and end the game right there. That is the reason why I haven't yet voted for AAA. It's very bad play.

 

[FredOfErik]

Again, i did not say pushing defensive roles to claim was a scum thing. I said that it was more likely to help scum than town

if it is more likely to help scum than town, why would town push for the info?

In coju's case, what he's said he can do is extremely vague. Help fellow combatants? Why should we even believe that? Is he a JoAT? Is he an inventor? If he is, has anyone received anything from him, and if they have have they used it, and what were the results?

His power is EXTREMELY vague, as stated.

How is it more vague than "I am a white mage"?

At least with AAA we can make some sort of guess at what his power allows him to do.

If you agree with my guess, why did you not vote for him?

 

[FredOfErik]

Another point, about the LYLO thing: Everyone here is experienced enough to know that throwing votes around on LYLO is extremely poor play. All you do is set up the scum to all get online and notice they can swoop on someone and end the game right there. That is the reason why I haven't yet voted for AAA. It's very bad play.

Why do you thin we are in lylo? how many mafia do you think were in the game? I think I remember you saying 5? with both techno, moar and drixx dead, we can at most assume there is 3 living mafia. With what seems to be an SK alive aswell we aren't even in mylo yet. And that being said, 5 mafia and 1 sk sounds somewhat unlikely with the low number of town PRs we have seen.

 

[IWantToUseNumbersInMyName]

Hmm. Valid point. I actually hadn't considered the implications of Moar being dead. She said Drixx was scum. Her being dead now means we are certain that 2 scum are gone, and I'm pretty sure there's an SK, so you're right, there are probably 2 scum and 1 sk left right now.

I'm stupid. I have no other explanation for my failure to make that connection there. Okay cool. So we're in MYLO, not LYLO. Sorry. If we lynch a townie this time, scum shoots anyone, and the sk shoots a town rather than mafia(which would be like a 33% chance I guess? We lose tomorrow. Not as bad as I thought it was, but still not exactly the best move to push people into range of insta lynch by scum to move them that much closer to winning.

 

[FredOfErik]

Hmm. Valid point. I actually hadn't considered the implications of Moar being dead. She said Drixx was scum. Her being dead now means we are certain that 2 scum are gone, and I'm pretty sure there's an SK, so you're right, there are probably 2 scum and 1 sk left right now.

I'm stupid. I have no other explanation for my failure to make that connection there. Okay cool. So we're in MYLO, not LYLO. Sorry. If we lynch a townie this time, scum shoots anyone, and the sk shoots a town rather than mafia(which would be like a 33% chance I guess? We lose tomorrow. Not as bad as I thought it was, but still not exactly the best move to push people into range of insta lynch by scum to move them that much closer to winning.

Nitpicking, but no, not mylo yet. Town risks losing with a mislynch but it isn't at all certain.

Also, another "sorry I was wrong". Apologize all you want.

 

[IWantToUseNumbersInMyName]

Also, I wasn't agreeing with you on your guess FoE. I was just saying we can limit the possible powers he can have. Without hearing what he has to say to defend himself about it though, I'm reluctant to vote, along with the above mentioned and incorrect LYLO concerns, which are just MYLO concerns.

His claim is not more vague than "I am a white mage." You, however, have given more information since, and he has not. So, his claim is currently the vaguest of all the claims anyone has made, including the further information they have given.

FoE: Do you think I should share more information with the town about what my power does? So far it's just been BA pushing for me to share that, and drawing very nebulous connections between myself and technomancer.

 

[IWantToUseNumbersInMyName]

Well, I mean with a doctor in play, no mylo or lylo is certain unless scum have infinite strongman shots to use.

 

[Bad Ash]

Unvote: Numbers

I still think my vote will end up on you, just don't like getting the quick 3 and don't think we need a quick lynch or anything.