fanatism aura

[smeer]

fanatism aura

I know that in a party the highest aura lvl will rule. But how does it work with Fanatism. If it works the same as with all other aura's you will end up with a lower lvl of dmg when you have a lower lvl of fanatism then a party member.
This is because the dmg modifier for party members is lower than for the one activating the aura...

 

[krischan]

The matter is even more complicated. Some synergies just increase certain aspects of an aura, so an aure might be stronger in one aspect, but weaker in a different one. Fanaticism has no synergies, but it's still an interesting topic. I guess the game doesn't make distinctions and lets the higher level one prevail, considering synergies only if the levels are equal... or level+synergies are added ? or some formula is applied ? Or each aspect of an aura gets is considered separately ?

I'm not sure what happens to the originator of an aura. All others don't have a choice which aura they benefit from, but a paladin chooses his aura freely, so it would sound logical that his own aura always prevails for himself. If he doesn't like that, he can still switch it off and benefit from the other one.

Of course, fansticism with its better bonuses for the originator might be different.

As you might have noticed, I'm just speculating, but I made the experience that this provokes postings from people who know about the issue

 

[thegiantturtle]

If there are 2 of the same auras active, the higher skill level aura is used. Period. Synergies are ignored when decided what aura to use (They aren't part of it's skill level). Fanaticism is NOT a special case.

Paladin 1 running lvl 30 fanaticism
Paladin 2 running lvl 20 fanaticism

Paladin 1 gets all the bonuses from the lvl 30 fanaticism
Paladin 2 gets all the bonuses from the lvl 30 fanaticism for party members.

Paladin 2 ends up with less ED% than if he had run fanaticism on his own, but has more IAS and ED%.

 

[RTB]

If there are 2 of the same auras active, the higher skill level aura is used. Period. Synergies are ignored when decided what aura to use (They aren't part of it's skill level). Fanaticism is NOT a special case.

Prayer is the special case btw, it stacks.

 

[thegiantturtle]

Prayer is the special case btw, it stacks.

Stupid Prayer. This is why I don't pray.

 

[krischan]

Stupid Prayer. This is why I don't pray.

I think you draw the wrong conclusions. It would be better then if everybody prays, wouldn't it ? Just in the game of course.

 

[thegiantturtle]

Hmm... Good point. I just tend to avoid the special cases. That way I don't have to remember them.

 

[Pucho]

*casts thread resurrection* well, at least I've used the search...

Prayer is the special case btw, it stacks.

Do you mean that if I'm using a prayer merc, and I have 20skill points in prayer (about 25+ with +skills) and using an "insight" weapon, I get the (lvl25+ mine)+(lvl from the merc) prayer heal bonus?even when using another aura?
It would be nice for a cleric

 

[RTB]

Yes, that works.

 

[Pucho]

ok, now how do they stack?
lets say that the merc have a lvl 15 prayer and I have a lvl 25 one
Do I get the bonus from a lvl 15 one and then the bonus from my lvl 25? (16 healing + 35 healing for a total of 51)
or I get the bomus for a lvl 40 prayer? (77 healing)
How about another merc/paladin in a team with prayer? Does it still stacks? if so, the same way that player + merc?

 

[RTB]

The life/2 secs is added, not the Slvls. In all your examples they would stack, no exceptions for Prayer.

 

[Pucho]

ok, so the first example is the one.
You've thrown light into my noobness darkness RTB. Thanks!

 

[helvete1]

Would the paladin's prayer level synergize the meditation he gets from a merc, when the merc does not have prayer, but some other aura?

 

[Dad Daniel]

I think you draw the wrong conclusions. It would be better then if everybody prays, wouldn't it ? Just in the game of course.

Is that some kind of a blasphemy??
:innocent:

 

[thegiantturtle]

Would the paladin's prayer level synergize the meditation he gets from a merc, when the merc does not have prayer, but some other aura?

No .

 

[purplelocust]

If there are 2 of the same auras active, the higher skill level aura is used. Period. Synergies are ignored when decided what aura to use (They aren't part of it's skill level).

This came up earlier in the discussion about prebuffable skills such as Enchant. Again, just the skill level matters, so a level 21 Enchant with no investment in the Warmth (beyond the 1 as a prereq) and no Fire Mastery would give 80-104 fire damage and last 624 seconds, and it would override a level 20 Enchant which was fully synergized which would give 504-659 fire damage but for a shorter 600 seconds.

 

[krischan]

Is that some kind of a blasphemy??
:innocent:

I just made a statement about praying in a game, not about praying in the real world. I hope that saves me from the Spanish Inquisition