DTalon and Stygian Dolls

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DTalon and Stygian Dolls

I haven't gotten my DTalon trapper to NM yet, but all througout normal, stygian dolls seem to do no damage to me when using DT. Does DT alter the range of the attacker when they're killed (besides the usual knockback on the final kick)? Is it possible it is because I use Crushflange, which has KB as a mod on the weapon (but doesn't do the KB effect with DT)?

Or will I just see a big difference in NM as they lay waste to me? :)
 
Well, when I do Baal runs in hell with my keeker, they still seem to pop on me. This will be an interesting investigation! :evil:
 
hi, im new to the forums, but ive been playing d2 for quite some time now - actually quit for a long time and just returned into 1.10. back in the day, i never ran into kicksins... but after creating one and leveling her up (she just hit 66 and is using 2x Jade - she's gonna be an anti-caster and I don't have any other claws at the moment) I realized that they are a very powerful build.

anyway, getting back to my point... last night, as a matter of fact, i was leveling in nm baal, and we were surrounded by stygian dolls. i did NOT notice any damage done to me when i was the source of the kill - although i wasnt paying as much attention as i will be from here on out :D

also, my asn gear (from what i remember, cant check right now, at 'work') is...

shako (switch to guillames when leveling)
duriels
2x jade (2/2 42% and 1/1 48%)
ravenfrost
dwarf star
highlords (+3 ma ammy in stash but no other mods fo F THAT :D )
trang ouls gloves (venom grip are my leveling gloves due to the added life steal and i dont have anything else thats ok for gloves)
tgods (string of ears for leveling when no souls are around)
some crappy mf boneweaves with no other mods

skills in build so far:
20 dtalon
1 dflight (but ive been thinkin im gonna pump points into it for fun when mb is done)
some random # in mb (i forget the amount, but workin on maxing it now)
20 venom
10 weap block
1 fade
1 bos
other standard selections and prereqs

also, i saw the wierdest bug yesterday... i was attacking a unique in hell difficulty, and i was dt'ing him like crazy, and he started getting kicked back - except it was in the opposite direction i was hitting him. i was hitting him from the east, and you would expect him to be knocked west, but he kept getting pushed back eastward. and the strangest thing - i was holding still, and he kept flying back east, not even near me, but still being hit with dt. he eventually died 1.5 screens away. it was strange... has anyone experienced that?
 
The KB to the east thing... it's lag. He was actually standing in a different place than you were seeing him. Because you namelocked him, the game knew where to kick, even if you were seeing it incorrectly. At least that's my theory.
 
thamuzdevil said:
i did NOT notice any damage done to me when i was the source of the kill - although i wasnt paying as much attention as i will be from here on out
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I've heard that elsewhere also. I usually have a strong merc, so I let him tank while I hide across the screen... (he and the shadow end up getting the kills and hurting me).
 
id bet its the kb... if youre surrounded by them and kicking em, there would be some who wouldnt get knocked back because other dolls are behind them... i wonder if thats it, kickback triggers then the doll dies? my experiences where i didnt get hurt was where i was in a party and happened to be alone with 1 doll around me, i kill it and no damage happens.
 
When I get some time tonight, I'll try my results with a KB weapon and a non-kb weapon.

With crushflange, I take NO damage, but I will take damage if my merc or traps are killing them and I'm too close.

Or maybe I just want this to work so badly I'm ignoring anything I don't want to see *plugging ears* lalalalalalalalalalalala
 
podi, there's the debate as to if weapon block works at full effectiveness while running. Most of the knowledgable guys in here swear that it does. I'm still on the fence. Most of my assassins don't use dual claw, but for the short time that they did, I didn't notice the blocks... or should I say the "clink." It doesn't mean it's not working, but I'm still skeptical.

I also don't do much testing :)
 
i myself thought it did work, but i will look at it closer to see if it really does. i dueled my friends level 79 sorc when i turned 66, and i didnt notice any 'clink' but there was no way i could have taken him as easily as i had without some sort of absolute prevention. perhaps a bug?

once again, i dunno, i was just going off of what a lot of the popular guides said and what my limited experience with weap block has shown me. maybe by tonight or monday night ill be able to say what i feel is truth with confidence.
 
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