Does Strafe work well with Penetrate/Critial Strike/Pierce? :) der

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Does Strafe work well with Penetrate/Critial Strike/Pierce? :)

Hiya

Firstly, I've got a pretty cookie cutter build gear wise

Helm: Giant Skull - 2 Sockets & 35 Strength
Armor: Fortitude Archon Plate - 29 Res & 1.5 Life
Weapon: Faith Grand Matron Bow - 3 B&C - 2 Skill & 12 Fanat
Amulet: The Cat's Eye
Ring 1: Raven Frost +20 dex & 210 ar
Ring 2: Raven Frost +20 dex & 215 ar
Belt: Nosferatu's Coil 7% ll
Gloves: Amazon Gloves - 3 Bow/Crossbow Skills & 20% IAS
Boots: War Traveler 49% MF

Switch:
Weapon: Call to Arms Flail - 5 BO
Shield: Lidless Wall

Inventory:
Hellfire Torch: Amazon Hellfire 16 res 16 stats
Annihilus: Annihilus

I am a bowazon and i've tried it all , strafe, multi shot, guided arrow, even the odd magic arrow/cold arrow for physical immunes. I've found that i tend to just strafe 99 percent of the time, rendering the likes of multi shot obselete.

Based on my gear set up, assuming that i will maximise strafe and little else, how should i set my skils up? Something like this?

20 Valkerie
20 Strafe
20 Penetrate ?
1 point in everything else including pre-reqs

1.What about the other points?
2.Does Penetrate/Critical strike/Pierce work well with Strafe?
3. How important is evade/avoid/dodge?
4. which is the best skill vs physical immunes?
5.My resistance is barely over 0, how can i improve it?

Any advise will be welcome and appreciated
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Re: Does Strafe work well with Penetrate/Critial Strike/Pierce? :)

u should switch the gloves for either 2 p/m 20 ias stat gloves or LoH (better option imo)
what did u put in ur giant skull?
if u mainly use strafe, u should switch to goreriders too, as the cb and ds will help u out (ds less than cb, but still)
the cta is wasted on a bowa with that few plus skill imo, rather get titans plus mosers/sanctuary on switch for boss killing, u should have max block with any shield anyway

resistances aren´t important on a bowa, u are supposed not to get hit in the first place, but charms are usually the easiest option. what kind of charms do u use btw?

usually i use magic arrow vs PIs. with high enough dmg even a mid lvl magic arrow will kill them rather quickly. otherwise give ur merc a reapers toll

20 strafe is ok
20 valk is overkill -> 17 including plus skills, so something like 10 hard points should be needed with ur setup
dodge, evade and avoid (d/a/e) have diminishing return, which hit hard at around lvl 9 (more or less) so one hard point in any should make u reach that point, more would be wasted
cristical strike (cs) and pierce do have diminishing returns too. but u need to invest some more hard points to hit them, which u should. both lvl 16 imo including plus skills
with faith u prolly don´t have any ar problems, so only one point needed in penetrate. but if u do feel the need for more ar, max it
the other points can be dumped into the skills of ur choice, i´d either for max magic arrow, freezing arrow or charged strike & lightning fury for PIs
 
Re: Does Strafe work well with Penetrate/Critial Strike/Pierce? :)

Krupa said:
u should switch the gloves for either 2 p/m 20 ias stat gloves or LoH (better option imo)

are enough mobs demons to warrant loh? whats p/m 20ias?

what did u put in ur giant skull?

nothing so far, contemplating umx2 for resist , my resist in hell is 2

if u mainly use strafe, u should switch to goreriders too, as the cb and ds will help u out (ds less than cb, but still)

is that hard to find?

the cta is wasted on a bowa with that few plus skill imo, rather get titans plus mosers/sanctuary on switch for boss killing, u should have max block with any shield anyway

so i should hybrid ?

resistances aren´t important on a bowa, u are supposed not to get hit in the first place, but charms are usually the easiest option. what kind of charms do u use btw?

i use random charms... contemplating all resist charms now...

usually i use magic arrow vs PIs. with high enough dmg even a mid lvl magic arrow will kill them rather quickly. otherwise give ur merc a reapers toll

so javazon or magic arrow? either one right?

20 strafe is ok
20 valk is overkill -> 17 including plus skills, so something like 10 hard points should be needed with ur setup
dodge, evade and avoid (d/a/e) have diminishing return, which hit hard at around lvl 9 (more or less) so one hard point in any should make u reach that point, more would be wasted
cristical strike (cs) and pierce do have diminishing returns too. but u need to invest some more hard points to hit them, which u should. both lvl 16 imo including plus skills
with faith u prolly don´t have any ar problems, so only one point needed in penetrate. but if u do feel the need for more ar, max it
the other points can be dumped into the skills of ur choice, i´d either for max magic arrow, freezing arrow or charged strike & lightning fury for PIs
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so it's a case of magic arrow vs charged strike/lightning fury?

thanks!



 
Re: Does Strafe work well with Penetrate/Critial Strike/Pierce? :)

i´ve seen some calculations, which imply that in total LoH increase the total dealt dmg by 33% or something like that...not sure anymore
2 p/m are passive/magic skill gloves. also blood crafted gloves with cb and life could be handy. the loh are specially nice because they give u 50% fr which is with light the most important res

for the sockets, did u check the ias breakpoint u need? u might want to socket 2 ias juwels in it and have other slots open up for something else (maybe the belt for a fhr str life res belt)

goreriders are easy to trade. worth less than ur travs and most of ur other equip. use to be worth a pul last ladder. not sure bout the price now

the main issue a bowa has imo is killing high life enemies such as diablo and baal. charged strike is the best boss killer there is on the other hand. if u have enough spare skill points, going hybrid is ur best option to solve that issue imo

for PIs it comes down to those options:

-2 ias jools in the helmet and use atams scarab instead for the amp proc

-use a reapers toll on ur merc for decrep proc

-cs & lf on switch

-magic arrow with whatever skill lvl u have (should be enough with ur equip) or max it
 
Re: Does Strafe work well with Penetrate/Critial Strike/Pierce? :)

Krupa said:
i´ve seen some calculations, which imply that in total LoH increase the total dealt dmg by 33% or something like that...not sure anymore
2 p/m are passive/magic skill gloves. also blood crafted gloves with cb and life could be handy. the loh are specially nice because they give u 50% fr which is with light the most important res

for the sockets, did u check the ias breakpoint u need? u might want to socket 2 ias juwels in it and have other slots open up for something else (maybe the belt for a fhr str life res belt)

goreriders are easy to trade. worth less than ur travs and most of ur other equip. use to be worth a pul last ladder. not sure bout the price now

the main issue a bowa has imo is killing high life enemies such as diablo and baal. charged strike is the best boss killer there is on the other hand. if u have enough spare skill points, going hybrid is ur best option to solve that issue imo

for PIs it comes down to those options:

-2 ias jools in the helmet and use atams scarab instead for the amp proc

-use a reapers toll on ur merc for decrep proc

-cs & lf on switch

-magic arrow with whatever skill lvl u have (should be enough with ur equip) or max it
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Are most monsters in chaos/baalruns demons ? if so LOH is worth it .

i got no idea how to check my IAS breakpoint...
so gore > travs?
i think i will stick with bows... so magic arrow or the ice arrow?is there any diff?

thx again



 
Re: Does Strafe work well with Penetrate/Critial Strike/Pierce? :)

I decided with my zon just to forget all about piece and i just stuck myself with a razortail, the extra points aren't really needed but being able to have extra choices was nice.
 
Re: Does Strafe work well with Penetrate/Critial Strike/Pierce? :)

jjsera said:
I decided with my zon just to forget all about piece and i just stuck myself with a razortail, the extra points aren't really needed but being able to have extra choices was nice.
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piece? pierce you mean.
razortail has pierce....



 
Re: Does Strafe work well with Penetrate/Critial Strike/Pierce? :)

Aint pierce highly over-rated?
Its sure nice if an arrow from a strafer pass the unit, but most of the time they aint in line or behind the target.

3-4 skills in it (with the +skillers) is prob enough if im not missing any hidden damage or anything besides,most of the times I found my old strafer just shooting 1-2 mobs that survived my hellish rapid-fire usually on eachother sides so all piecers ended up in the wall.

Also, you can NEVER overkill valk! ;D
 
Re: Does Strafe work well with Penetrate/Critial Strike/Pierce? :)

gores are the better choice for strafers, yes
magic arrow is better, if u have a high phys dmg, that can be converted to magic dmg, freezing arrow is better, if u have many skills left to dump them in that skill + synergy

many undeads and demons there, yes

a razortail gives u 33% pierce and u only need lvl 9 pierce to get to 100% pierce
pure bowas have lots of skills left usually, so not to have high pierce is wasted dmg potential. the chance of one arrow hitting 2 or more enemies will multiply the dmg u deal, specially when u face mobs. i´d never build a zon without it (mandatory for lightning fury and freezing arrow)

a valk needs lvl 17 for her having a rare elite weapon, more is not needed, because on that lvl she can tank almost everything. extra lvls won´t help much keeping her alive with the mobs she can´t tank at that point
 
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