Create Your Own Role Mafia game

[MartinLong]

Sath had dr frank, are you thinking that doesn't count as a targeted ability? Or am I missing the point here altogether?

Someone targeted Sath. That's what the results show.

While looking up Flub's reaction to your king choice N1, I came across this post. I don't see you posting much about this thinking you are doing behind the scenes, mostly about roles. Would you have made Sath king again, or do you disagree with Flub's choice?

Again as in a later date? I wouldn't. I have now, a list of players 'more town' than Sath.

If many thought Sath was scum in D1, I am curious as to why their minds are changed now and choose him to be king. I haven't detected any posts alluding to a change in position on Sath thus far.

 

[Kestegs]

While looking up Flub's reaction to your king choice N1, I came across this post. I don't see you posting much about this thinking you are doing behind the scenes, mostly about roles. Would you have made Sath king again, or do you disagree with Flub's choice?

Did I miss where flub made Sath the king?

 

[MartinLong]

Exactly, and making us learn the dang thing when we are 15. All I remember is that the "whereart though" line is actually not where are you, but why are you named like you are (ie why are you a capulet or whatever). That is an answer I would like to hear from Flub.

The line is "wherefore art thou", no? and in context, it was *google* "O Romeo, O Romeo, wherefore art thou Romeo" ... Which I thought was "Where are you dude, I need you noa"

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[MartinLong]

Did I miss where flub made Sath the king?

To an extent. It's either implied and will be proven when flubby and Sath post. Or, there is a liar amongst us.

 

[thefranklin]

Someone targeted Sath. That's what the results show.


Again as in a later date? I wouldn't. I have now, a list of players 'more town' than Sath.

If many thought Sath was scum in D1, I am curious as to why their minds are changed now and choose him to be king. I haven't detected any posts alluding to a change in position on Sath thus far.

Good question for other people (flub). What caused your change?

Did I miss where flub made Sath the king?

Sath was on the ole' cooties list. No one claimed targetting him, Flub is MIA.

 

[Caluin Graye]

I would like to request that until we hear from flubbucket and Sathoris concerning the identity of the king, that nobody else places a vote.

 

[Kestegs]

To an extent. It's either implied and will be proven when flubby and Sath post. Or, there is a liar amongst us.

Good question for other people (flub). What caused your change?

Sath was on the ole' cooties list. No one claimed targetting him, Flub is MIA.

well nobody answered my last question about the Dr frank role counting under the cootie detection. If it doesn't then yes, Sath has to be king or someone is lying.

 

[MartinLong]

Good question for other people (flub). What caused your change?

My read on Sath hasn't actually changed a lot, but other players have moved further up the town list. Which, then pushes Sath down.

I would like to request that until we hear from flubbucket and Sathoris concerning the identity of the king, that nobody else places a vote.

Don't think anyone has voted yet?

well nobody answered my last question about the Dr frank role counting under the cootie detection. If it doesn't then yes, Sath has to be king or someone is lying.

Frankenstien targets two players, so the two players targeted show up on the list.

 

[Gwaihir]

well nobody answered my last question about the Dr frank role counting under the cootie detection. If it doesn't then yes, Sath has to be king or someone is lying.

I agree with Martin below, Dr. Frank definitely targets a player as the ability can get driven. (Unlike mime which targets a role and therefore would not)

I would like to request that until we hear from flubbucket and Sathoris concerning the identity of the king, that nobody else places a vote.

I agree this is good idea, but how long do we hold off on voting? We still have 27 hours approximately.

 

[MartinLong]

I agree this is good idea, but how long do we hold off on voting? We still have 27 hours approximately.

Waiting on the last piece can help drive a more informed vote, it would make sense to wait for that as it could go two ways. Nothing stopping gathering evidence through the posts though - so we won't just be 'sitting and waiting'.

 

[Caluin Graye]

Don't think anyone has voted yet?

Sathoris has.

Frankenstien targets two players, so the two players targeted show up on the list.

One of which is a dead person, who doesn't show on the Cooties list. Sathoris didn't target himself; he targeted flubbucket and a dead guy.

I agree with Martin below, Dr. Frank definitely targets a player as the ability can get driven. (Unlike mime which targets a role and therefore would not)

Note that I show on the list, likely because the Mime copied my role.

I agree this is good idea, but how long do we hold off on voting? We still have 27 hours approximately.

Here's my thought process.

flubbucket couldn't make himself king.
I'm not king.
Since calling for the identity of the king, Sathoris, MartinLong, Gwaihir, franklin and kestegs have all posted without claiming it.

That's seven out of the eight of us.

Leaving Moar as the final potential. If flubbucket targeted kestegs for King, then she'd have it. Either that, or someone amongst us is lying and trying to conceal it.

Neither of those are good options.

Since there is a very real possibility that this is MYLO, I think it is worth considering doing a No Lynch today so the King cannot be abused. Can't redirect the lynch if there isn't one to redirect in the first place.

However, there is one very real hangup to this idea that I cannot share right now. I need either flubbucket to tell us who he gave king to, or I need Sathoris to confirm/deny if he has the King role again.

 

[Gwaihir]

Waiting on the last piece can help drive a more informed vote, it would make sense to wait for that as it could go two ways. Nothing stopping gathering evidence through the posts though - so we won't just be 'sitting and waiting'.

I understand that, I was curious if CG was thinking along the same lines as I was for why not to vote.

One of which is a dead person, who doesn't show on the Cooties list. Sathoris didn't target himself; he targeted flubbucket and a dead guy.

Note that I show on the list, likely because the Mime copied my role.

First part I agree with. Second part I am less sure on - "choose a living role to copy". I imagined it as picking a role and therefore not a person. It is possible you are right, but you would be on the list either way from kegs bus driving you.

Here's my thought process.

flubbucket couldn't make himself king.
I'm not king.
Since calling for the identity of the king, Sathoris, MartinLong, Gwaihir, franklin and kestegs have all posted without claiming it.

That's seven out of the eight of us.

Leaving Moar as the final potential. If flubbucket targeted kestegs for King, then she'd have it. Either that, or someone amongst us is lying and trying to conceal it.

Neither of those are good options.

Since there is a very real possibility that this is MYLO, I think it is worth considering doing a No Lynch today so the King cannot be abused. Can't redirect the lynch if there isn't one to redirect in the first place.

However, there is one very real hangup to this idea that I cannot share right now. I need either flubbucket to tell us who he gave king to, or I need Sathoris to confirm/deny if he has the King role again.

Agreed with your logic here, except I would be less worried if Moar got it, at this point I think she is more town than scum. I would hate to not lynch someone today because of the king, but that is a very real possibility of needing to be done. It almost makes me wish the politician was in the game to block the king last night.

 

[Moar]

I'm not the king.

Sorry, tired this evening. Brain doesn't want to think. Will post more tomorrow after morning coffee.

I think Mal was town, so we are at mylo. What's the difference between mylo and lylo anyway? Both means a loss, don't they?
If Mal was scum we have another day, but best to be careful today, me thinks.

I'm surprised that you didn't lynch me last day since most of you wanted to. I had 4 votes on me when I told you that I was the spammer. Instead of taking the spammer off me you turned on BA (which I had my vote on). One of those (at least one) that turned eagerly must be scum. As well as one that didn't turn around.

 

[thefranklin]

Mylo is mis-lynch and lose (or at least that is how I understand it) and lylo is lynch or lose, which means you must lynch a scum. If people kept their vote on you yesterday, they would be voting for a no lynch day. Is that what you were hoping for, or were you hoping that we lynched the person where your vote was?

 

[MartinLong]

Sathoris has.

Right. On Moar.

Note that I show on the list, likely because the Mime copied my role.

Weird that you wouldn't go with the obvious ... Kegstegs targeted you as Bus.C
Mime copys a role, doesn't target a player. When you submit a night action you say copy role X, not copy player X.

Here's my thought process.

flubbucket couldn't make himself king.
I'm not king.
Since calling for the identity of the king, Sathoris, MartinLong, Gwaihir, franklin and kestegs have all posted without claiming it.

That's seven out of the eight of us.

I see Sath not mentioning he was king because he was waiting for flubb to say so. When I made Sath king, he didn't come out to say so. I said it, then he confirmed. Based off how it went down previously, I was expecting the same.

Leaving Moar as the final potential. If flubbucket targeted kestegs for King, then she'd have it. Either that, or someone amongst us is lying and trying to conceal it.

Neither of those are good options.

My thoughts:

Flubb targeted Sath for King. I want to know why, what the intentions were, why did his view of Sath change so quickly?
Flubb targeted someone else on the list, so that person who is King is lying. *As before, I don't concider Sath to have denied the King role.

Since there is a very real possibility that this is MYLO, I think it is worth considering doing a No Lynch today so the King cannot be abused. Can't redirect the lynch if there isn't one to redirect in the first place.

I see the reason, but I'm not for it at the moment.

I'm not the king.

Sorry, tired this evening. Brain doesn't want to think. Will post more tomorrow after morning coffee.

I think Mal was town, so we are at mylo. What's the difference between mylo and lylo anyway? Both means a loss, don't they?
If Mal was scum we have another day, but best to be careful today, me thinks.

It's a tight situation, means we have to work harder to dig up the rest of the scum. If going off of the previous layout, there was 4 mafia. That means there is 2 or 3 left.
Now, we don't know for sure that there is 4 again, but logically it makes sense (3 seems to little, 5 to much).

I'm surprised that you didn't lynch me last day since most of you wanted to. I had 4 votes on me when I told you that I was the spammer. Instead of taking the spammer off me you turned on BA (which I had my vote on). One of those (at least one) that turned eagerly must be scum. As well as one that didn't turn around.

You again, say you are surprised we didn't lynch you. Why? Why did you want us to mis-lynch?

 

[Moar]

It would have been a no lynch if I hadn't come forward as the spammer. That you decided to change target instead of outspamming me is not my fault. You could have done it.

 

[MartinLong]

It would have been a no lynch if I hadn't come forward as the spammer. That you decided to change target instead of outspamming me is not my fault. You could have done it.

I was never going to vote you, I didn't change the target.

You do bring up a good point though, after finding out you were spammer, the people jumping onto the next easy lynch are going to be suspect as it's the perfect cover.

 

[Caluin Graye]

I think Mal was town, so we are at mylo. What's the difference between mylo and lylo anyway? Both means a loss, don't they?

No. A loss is a loss. MYLO and LYO are still winnable situations.

MYLO means that if the town lynches someone and that person is not scum, then they lose. However, a no lynch (assuming only one death at night) will still allow them another day.

LYLO means the town must lynch someone, and that person must be scum in order to survive another day.

First part I agree with. Second part I am less sure on - "choose a living role to copy". I imagined it as picking a role and therefore not a person. It is possible you are right, but you would be on the list either way from kegs bus driving you.

Weird that you wouldn't go with the obvious ... Kegstegs targeted you as Bus.C
Mime copys a role, doesn't target a player. When you submit a night action you say copy role X, not copy player X.

I actually had just forgotten about the Bus Driver at that point. This game is screwing with my head. So many things to keep track of at once. I'm constantly finding things that I've overlooked.

 

[Caluin Graye]

It would have been a no lynch if I hadn't come forward as the spammer. That you decided to change target instead of outspamming me is not my fault. You could have done it.

True, we could have. Do you think the town would be in a better or worse position if we had lynched you over Bad Ash?

 

[MartinLong]

I actually had just forgotten about the Bus Driver at that point. This game is screwing with my head. So many things to keep track of at once. I'm constantly finding things that I've overlooked.

Agreed. Staring at the paper to see how to make proper notes is hard enough with this game.