Create Your Own Role Mafia game

[MartinLong]

Any cards that aren't used are returned to the deck.

Just when you think you read every word of the role.

Seems like y'all are waiting, so here are my targets:
A. Kestegs
B. Moar
C. Caluin Graye

What is your reasoning for these targets? Why include your self?

 

[Kestegs]

Just when you think you read every word of the role.

What is your reasoning for these targets? Why include your self?

I didn't want to die? I know my own alignment, and nobody else is confirmed.

I figured if the mafia targeted me it would move to moar, since she claimed spammer she should be nk immune. Figured moar wouldn't be targeted regardless. And just hoped CG wouldn't be targeted to move to me.

 

[Caluin Graye]

I was cootie detector. Since I'd rather not get modkilled for copy/pasting the results, I'll go a different approach and tell you who wasn't targeted. The following did not appear on my list:

MartinLong
thefranklin
Gwaihir

With that, let's take this list here:

Day three:
Roles gone:
Paris
Politician
Meet Joe Black


Bad Ash: Reflector
Caluin Graye: Cootie Detector
flububucket: Kingmaker
Gwaihir: Forensic Scientist
kestegs: Bus Driver (kestegs -> Moar -> CG)
MartinLong: Mime
Moar: Spammer
Pyrotechnician: (Process of elimination leaves... Last Laugh.)
Sathoris: Dr. Frankenstion (Flubb [Kingmaker] -> Mal [Paris])
thefranklin: Tarot (High Priestess -> Pyro)

Day Four:
Roles gone:
Kingmaker
Reflector
Meet Joe Black
Politician


Which means the highest priority today is figuring out who targeted Pyro and getting him lynched. Obviously, much easier said than done.

Flubbs - who's king today?

 

[Caluin Graye]

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Can't say I saw a ton of differences between the two. Maybe he asked a few more questions in the last game, but it seems pretty reasonable overall.

Neither of those links do anything for me. But I see your point in your summary.

3) CG - you called out thefranklin for ahving no interactions with SI. Why did you not mention Sath or flubb in the same manner?

Many times when I ask someone a question, I'm more interested in how they respond than what they respond with. Sathoris was already being pressured by much of the town, and flubbs was under attack by Bad Ash. Putting fuel on those fires would have accomplished very little. Instead, I decided I'd focus on the person who had no pressure on him at all - franklin.

This is lylo isn't it?

IF there were four scum to being with, and IF Malevolent was not scum, then this would be MYLO. Mislynch and Lose.

I didn't want to die? I know my own alignment, and nobody else is confirmed.

I figured if the mafia targeted me it would move to moar, since she claimed spammer she should be nk immune. Figured moar wouldn't be targeted regardless. And just hoped CG wouldn't be targeted to move to me.

Interesting. The Kegs --> Moar switch I get. However, considering that Solar Ice died targeting either Pyro or myself, did you find it wise to put yourself at such a risk knowing that he and I were high on the 'likely to be killed' list? Swapping Pyro's name with my own would have been functionally the same from a meta standpoint, but would have gotten you killed instead of him.

 

[Sathoris]

Players Alive:

1. kestegs
2. flubbucket
3. Sathoris
4. Gwaihir
5. MartinLong
6. Caluin Graye
7. Moar
8. thefranklin

There are 8 players alive. It takes 4 votes to lynch and 5 votes to lock.

This is lylo isn't it?

As I believe SI and Malev were scum I don't think we're in mylo.

Spammer.
Don't understand why you didn't lynch me last day.

Because no one wanted to copy Malev and spam worthless stuff. Odds are you're not the spammer today thought.

Vote: Moar

Suspect list supplied by flubb:
Ankeli, Moar, Malevolent, kestegs, Pyrotechnician

This still accurate, Flubb?

 

[Kestegs]

Interesting. The Kegs --> Moar switch I get. However, considering that Solar Ice died targeting either Pyro or myself, did you find it wise to put yourself at such a risk knowing that he and I were high on the 'likely to be killed' list? Swapping Pyro's name with my own would have been functionally the same from a meta standpoint, but would have gotten you killed instead of him.

Obviously if I had done that I would be dead, yes.

The fact that you have made compelling cases against at least 2/3 of the lynches made me think you were either mafia or would not be targeted because mafia want to keep you around.

 

[MartinLong]

I was cootie detector. Since I'd rather not get modkilled for copy/pasting the results, I'll go a different approach and tell you who wasn't targeted. The following did not appear on my list:

MartinLong
thefranklin
Gwaihir

I can back this statement up. I copied the cootie detector, with the same results.

 

[Gwaihir]

2. Quite strange you comment on "how obvious" it would be that it was tampered with. There is absolutely no way to tell. I am not sure if what happened to SI would be considered a crime scene, and the only other vial was N1 with my DNA (reflected from CG) in it. There was no N2 so no one could have tampered with the vial. Gwahir claims to have taken a sample from someone, now he can either contaminate N1 vial, analyze with N1 vial for a positive or negative match, or clean a sample (that removes all DNA from a vial). If he didn't get crime scene data, he could have only collected DNA from someone to store it. Or to see if the person who had prepared the vials previously were bs'ing the town about what was in them (which is what I would have done in Gwahir's shoes).

Bingo.
I sampled kegs, and that according to him got redirected to Moar.
I analyzed N1 and N3 and got back no match, unsurprisingly.

He was the only one to die at night, everyone else was lynched. Evidence would be left there (hitman maybe at the scene (Touched him indirectly), reflector definitely (touched him) and others? ), thus a crime scene.

I don't think that is how it would work, but I could be wrong.

Quoted from role "If you collect blood from a crime scene, you will collect blood from the victim and all killers." To me this means collecting SI's blood gives you the blood of the victim (SI) and the killer (SI).

Pyrotechnician: (Process of elimination leaves... Last Laugh.)

Which means the highest priority today is figuring out who targeted Pyro and getting him lynched. Obviously, much easier said than done.

Flubbs - who's king today?

Yeah, knowing that last king I think may be one of the most important things for the day. I also agree finding Pyro's killer is pretty key, but we have no real way of getting it except by scum hunting.

 

[Gwaihir]

Collecting SI blood = crime scene of SI.

 

[MartinLong]

Obviously if I had done that I would be dead, yes.

The fact that you have made compelling cases against at least 2/3 of the lynches made me think you were either mafia or would not be targeted because mafia want to keep you around.

Interesting. If you really think CG is mafia, or mafia wants to keep him around (ie, he's harming town) then wouldn't the better decision have been to redirect a kill into CG? Or are your scum thoughts on CG not that strong?

Bingo.
I sampled kegs, and that according to him got redirected to Moar.

Hmm OK.
N1 Vial: thefranklin
N3 Vial: Moar

Quoted from role "If you collect blood from a crime scene, you will collect blood from the victim and all killers." To me this means collecting SI's blood gives you the blood of the victim (SI) and the killer (SI).

Depending on how Gory plays out the mechanics of the reflector. In my mind, the reflector could show up as the killer, as the attack 'bounced off' him. Or, if not, it would just show SI killing him self.


@CG, you have all the cootie information. What do you make of it?

 

[Kestegs]

Interesting. If you really think CG is mafia, or mafia wants to keep him around (ie, he's harming town) then wouldn't the better decision have been to redirect a kill into CG? Or are your scum thoughts on CG not that strong?

I'm not really that convinced, no. He has an identical voting record to me I think, and I didn't disagree with any of the cases made. But the fact remains that he's helped convince people that people are scum and they've gotten lynched. That doesn't make him mafia though.

 

[MartinLong]

I'm not really that convinced, no. He has an identical voting record to me I think, and I didn't disagree with any of the cases made. But the fact remains that he's helped convince people that people are scum and they've gotten lynched. That doesn't make him mafia though.

Understandable.

 

[MartinLong]

Flubbby where art thou?

 

[Caluin Graye]

@CG, you have all the cootie information. What do you make of it?

Either Sathoris is king again, or someone with a targeted ability is lying.

 

[MartinLong]

Either Sathoris is king again, or someone with a targeted ability is lying.

And I am curious, as I recall, when I made Sath king, flubb was one of many who disagreed on my choice and found it suspicious. Interesting.

 

[thefranklin]

And I am curious, as I recall, when I made Sath king, flubb was one of many who disagreed on my choice and found it suspicious. Interesting.

This also elevated my curiousity.

Flubbby where art thou? -> I believe Shakespeare originally used Flubb as the name, but changed it to Romeo after forsaw a young Jet Li playing the role. True story.

 

[MartinLong]

This also elevated my curiousity.

Flubbby where art thou? -> I believe Shakespeare originally used Flubb as the name, but changed it to Romeo after forsaw a young Jet Li playing the role. True story.

I'm surprised he decided to publish the play after envisioning that travesty.

 

[Kestegs]

Either Sathoris is king again, or someone with a targeted ability is lying.

Sath had dr frank, are you thinking that doesn't count as a targeted ability? Or am I missing the point here altogether?

 

[thefranklin]

Yes. I chose the most town person in my eyes as to give it the best chance of going to town.

So far, from D1, I looked at play styles. How did they sync up with their past town and/or mafia play styles.

There are groups who look town no matter what, groups who look scummy all the time, people I have no read on yet, and then based off past playing, who seems to be acting on their mafia or town playstyle.

Of the 11 choices, yes he seemed to been most fitting.

While looking up Flub's reaction to your king choice N1, I came across this post. I don't see you posting much about this thinking you are doing behind the scenes, mostly about roles. Would you have made Sath king again, or do you disagree with Flub's choice?

 

[thefranklin]

I'm surprised he decided to publish the play after envisioning that travesty.

Exactly, and making us learn the dang thing when we are 15. All I remember is that the "whereart though" line is actually not where are you, but why are you named like you are (ie why are you a capulet or whatever). That is an answer I would like to hear from Flub.