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could you help me with gear dillema? let's take Xombie's setup for max block necros:

2/20/2 Shael Shael circ
Enigma
Hoto
Cham Stormshield (vs. druids) Jah/Ber in Stash
10 FCR/24FHR/stats/life crafted belt
2x FCR/stats/life/res rings
Trangs gloves
FHR/stats/tri-res boots
2nec/15+fcr/stats/life/res amulet

im sure its wonderfull, but i can't really afford all those items atm. what i think is to reduce fcr do 75% when its not so important. could you tell me when boner REALLY needs 125fcr? maybe he also doesnt need 86fhr all the time?
i think vs chars like hammer, sorcs, traps, boners or foh i should use spirit shield. is that a good idea? but if i do it i will have to invest a lot in str (no sense in -15req'ing SS). but i think that should be worth it cause spirit looks better than homun. and with spirit fhr and fcr problem isnt really so big problem.
as a boots i think ill use treks. Mages for TO gloves (im trying not to use mana pots in duels).

edit. one more thing - which bone skill i should max last? or in which order you suggest me to max bone skills?
 
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Well as I stated in the other thread a bonemancer always needs 125fcr in order to keep people in spear lock. It also always needs at least 86fhr in order to keep at least a reasonable fhr bp.

As for the gear the most expensive stuff on there is the helm, rings, boots and ammy. These can be easily switched for an arachs, giving you 10% more fcr, the fhr can be made up on gc's and the resists can be made up for on the wizard spike, some of the other stats can also be made up for with a different helm with only 1os. The helmet can be replaced with a rare 2/20/ other stats and resists. Here the fhr can also be made up for on the gc's. It is fairly easy to find rings that have 10%fcr/15dex/and resists or what ever else. It is just the combination of all the stats that make them extremely rare. The ammulet can be dropped for a nice rare ammy with 10% fcr, which usually has better mods then what you would find on a 15+fcr ammy. The Hoto can also be dropped for a wizardspike if you would like to change around some of your other gear, or if you need more resists. The tri resist boots can be easily replaced with either Shadowdancers, which give 30%fhr and max 25 dex (although if you don't have the str to use these, don't add any), you can also use treks.

With regards to your bone skills you should probably max bonewall last.
 
could you help me to build "vs casters" set up ? here's what im going to use (thats almost identical to Xombie's block setup)

"Vs All"
2/20/2 Shael Shael circ
Enigma
Hoto
Cham Stormshield
10 FCR/24FHR/more crafted belt
2x 10 FCR/more rings
Magefists
Treks
2nec/15fcr amu
5fhr sc

that gives me 125fcr and 89fhr.
now, vs casters i would like to use Spirit. that gives me 160 fcr and 144 fhr - i need only 125|86. what do you suggest me to do? i se so many options that i can't pick the best one :) ofc the gear will also varies vs boner/hammerdin, trap/light sorc, fire sorc or blizz sorc. so it looks like a lot of work to do.

i think i will stay with Hoto for dmg, those +res i can easily get from other parts. helm can be changed... um shako elements and jah shako vs boner/hammer? arach for +skill maybe? ravens vs cold, sojs vs nec/hammer? 3sk +life amu vs boner/hammer?
 
If you are going to use the caster change then you can drop 35 fcr. This can be done by droping both of your fcr rings for Bk's for more life and additional damage. This means that you shouldn't build your char around any str on the rings. Also as your 2/15 ammy will likely not have the additional stats that you can find on a good rare 2/10 you can switch that over. This will bring you down to 135 fcr. Your other option is to keep one of the fcr rings and switch the circlet for a shako (ugly).

If you keep the cirlet you can also add on an extra gc for 152 fhr. Trust me that bp will help you quite a bit against casters, especially 200fcr ones.

As I said before though good luck finding the belts. I think there are only a few like what you posted above, as not many people craft belts.
 
thats what im thinking about now:

Vs All
2/20/2 Shael Shael circ
Enigma
Hoto
Homunculus UM
10 FCR/24FHR/more crafted belt
2x 10 FCR/more rings
Magefists
Treks
2nec/15fcr amu
5fhr sc

Vs Elemental Casters (trap, cold/fire/light sorc, FoH)
2/20/1-2 Um (??)
Enigma
Hoto
Spirit
10 FCR/24FHR/more crafted belt
2x BK / SoJ+BK
Magefists / TO
Treks
3PnB/Life amu

Vs NONelemental Casters (boner, hammer)
3PnB/20/1 Jah
Enigma
Hoto
Spirit
10 FCR/24FHR/more crafted belt
2x BK / SoJ+BK
Magefists
Treks
3PnB/Life amu

Vs Melee
2/20/2 Shael Shael circ
Enigma
Hoto
Stormshield Ber / Cham vs Windy
10 FCR/24FHR/more crafted belt
2x 10 FCR/more rings
Magefists
Treks
2nec/15fcr amu
5fhr sc


how does it look? 125fcr and 86fhr everywhere. no 152fhr bp, but ill have to try it.
well... thats bad is the belt can be a problem... what gear do you suggest if i wont find one (if its worth a lot i wont find one)? Arach + 2x 12fhr skillers and BK (cause of +10fcr which i can 'sacrifice' on ring) ?


edit. arrrghh, ive just saw your post where you write that 2/20/2 is very hard to find... which in my situation means i wont get it. i have no idea what to do if i wont be able to get that helm and belt.
well, let's say i will use arach and 1soc helm - i have 44fhr loss and +10fcr. i can wear some fhr charms, but 44 from charms looks like not a good idea...
 
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ok sounds really confusing.
how about just go with this:
vs melee: ss
vs casters: um homu
i recommend arach, so u can use a sorb ring against good sorcs,
also dancers r definately the best boots.
 
yeah, now i see dancers are really better (IMO) than treks.
does anyone use other boots? i think i would use dancers + hotspurs vs fire sorcs
 
Well, the belt was just there to save you room from using too many FHR's. If that's out of your budget, arach + 2 FHR's would still work.

But if the belt and 2os circ is out then you'll have to resort to another setup.

I'm thinking something like:

2/20 nec shael
suicide branch/wizard spike
stormshield
enig
arach
2x fcr rings
treks
bloodfists
2nec/15+fcr ammy
1 5fhr sc

problem with this is: potentially lower damage & no oak sage.

The only really pricey item here would be the 2nec/15fcr + amulet. However, if you must, a regular 15+fcr ammy with no skills is significanly cheaper and could work just as fine.

I don't like dancers since the strength req is really high. I rely on str from enigma, rings, and boots to hit 156 str.
 
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Well, the belt was just there to save you room from using too many FHR's. If that's out of your budget, arach + 2 FHR's would still work.

But if the belt and 2os circ is out then you'll have to resort to another setup.

I'm thinking something like:

2/20 nec shael
suicide branch/wizard spike
stormshield
enig
arach
2x fcr rings
treks
bloodfists
2nec/15+fcr ammy
1 5fhr sc

problem with this is: potentially lower damage & no oak sage.

The only really pricey item here would be the 2nec/15fcr + amulet. However, if you must, a regular 15+fcr ammy with no skills is significanly cheaper and could work just as fine.

I don't like dancers since the strength req is really high. I rely on str from enigma, rings, and boots to hit 156 str.
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ss gives str bonus, so if u can equip ss, u wil have no problem using dancers.



 
I made builds comprised of only the bare esential bps.

vs most:

35FCR Spirit
"white" wand 8 BSpear (alternatively a "white" with +revive). I do have a question here though; would a boneshade work better here? I like Spirit > Spear anyway, for ibs. I usually ste up a spirit trap then force them there w/ Spear (except barbs; with 50% DR and 75% block I just Bspear them to death).
Arach
Soj + 10fcr all res ring (if using "white")
Nig
2/20+ circ "Um"
Magefist (if blizz sorc, trang)
Treks
22 res Maras (still looking for gg boner ammy...)

I have AOKL + Boneflame on switch in case I find some fallen in the moor and decide to make some annoying mages (against fc zons, foh, bowzon, etc).

I have Hoto I swap for elem casters, and swap the FCR ring for soj or bk. 55 FHR + 20 from Trek = 75FHR, so I use a 12FHR PnB gc (or will when i find one; it's a 12FHR summon atm still buying gear for this char) that gives me the FHR BP of 86.

20 + 35 + 20 + 20 +10+20 = 125% FCR. Or alternatively: 40+35+20+20+20 =135FCR against elemental casters. So I have room for sorb rings and hot spurs if necessary. My helm is constant. For melee I swap-out Spirit for a "ber" SS. This gives me 42% DR and I can make up for the FCR with 2 rings and HoTo (when I get a 20FCR pnb ammy, however, I can keep the "white" or boneshade).

I guess I'd socket Boneshade with an Io for Vitality.

OT: post number 666...whooooo whooooo (how fitting for my last day of college finals)
 
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