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But since when they hostile, they're in town, wouldn' t the -res from infinity not work when they TPPK?
Best tanking character?
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Hm, ok, it looks like I'll be going with a pure energy sork trying for 95 resist all. To get the high resists, do you suggest GA? Or is that too much of a hassle with the strength requirement?
I have a relative tank sorc. not so much for tppk but for pvm, but the same manorisms (sp) can be applied. Max block, Max res, absorb, high def.
I built her as chain light tho so she needed more skills used towards her offensive output. If u were to go with Orb or what not then that would leave more skills to max ES/TK. Most expensive item she uses is a CoH, then shako probably.
I built her as chain light tho so she needed more skills used towards her offensive output. If u were to go with Orb or what not then that would leave more skills to max ES/TK. Most expensive item she uses is a CoH, then shako probably.
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AzaZaz said:
I think I'm going to go with:
Enough strength for gear
Base Dex
Base Vita
Rest into Energy
20 ES
20 TK
20 FO
20 CM
Rest into a shield maybe for more tanking ability. What shield is the best nowadays?
Probably go for a defiance merc, also for more tanking ability.
What do ya'll think? Any mistakes I made? Suggestions? Am I stupid for even trying this? Any feedback is appreciated.
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meekzero said:
Basically a sorceress that maxes Energy shield and telekinesis and pumps energy. The build relies on a very high energy shield absorbing most damage done to your life and transferring the negative effects to your enormous mana pool.
Yeah, if I were to build one that's exactly how I'd look at it... build her as a tank (specifically emphasis on tanking IB, as previously noted IB can be a killer if you don't negate it), then just instead of life boosting or fast casting gear that I'd put onto a normal sork go with +mana with a bit of +life. ES can be pre-buffed and lasts 40 minutes, infact it can be prebuffed without a single charm...AzaZaz said:
+9 memory staff
+3 hat
+3 ammy
+2 sojs
+3 ES ormus
The SoJs would be the only items you'd keep on after buffing.
Also note that with a huge mana pool maxing warmth nets you a LARGE amount of mana/second... somewhere around 100/sec if my math is right for a 3k pool. So I'd probably alter your skill set to be:
20 es
20 tk
20 orb
1 cm
1 frozen armour
1 port
1 static
20 warmth
pump cm
I do agree with defiance, mostly because nothing else will help you in any way in your quest. Obviously with an insight on it.
Valar-Wrath said:I think I'm going to go with:
Enough strength for gear
Base Dex
Base Vita
Rest into Energy
20 ES
20 TK
20 FO
20 CM
Rest into a shield maybe for more tanking ability. What shield is the best nowadays?
Probably go for a defiance merc, also for more tanking ability.
What do ya'll think? Any mistakes I made? Suggestions? Am I stupid for even trying this? Any feedback is appreciated.
well I'd say storm, however, if you're looking to tank TPPK's, i'd definately have a Luna and ravens lying around. I wouldnt worry about snowclash as I'd be using tgods. That'd be me.
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No no no no.Valar-Wrath said:
The idea is to rely on your Energy Shield, which acts before resists are factored in. You'd sacrifice way too much to get 90 or 95 resist all and it would be nearly pointless since it'd only apply to the 5-10% remaining dmg you took after Energy Shield. Resists are a moot point with this build; points of DR and MDR are the key.
Gladiator's Bane and Gerke's Sanctuary are almost a must here. Then probably Shako, Wizard Spike, and Frosties. Belt and boots could be just about anything. Just don't worry so much about resists.
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PhatTrumpet said:
Alright, so now it would look like this:
20 Warmth
20 TK
20 ES
20 FO
Rest into CM or a shield?
Apparently I should go with max block even though this is an energy build? I thought I'd need all the energy I could get so I'd want to max out energy as much as possible. Unless max block would help me more against the tppkers than the extra mana? So, stats would look like:
Strength-Enough for heaviest gear, probably Gbane?
Dex-Enough for max block
Vitality-None
Energy-Rest
Gear would look like this, if I can afford it all:
Shako
Gbane
Wiz
Gerkes or SS?
Arach
Probably dual ravens(?) or maybe a dwarf(?)
WW's(?)
Trangs?(No clue here.)
Any ammy I can get with +skills and +energy/mana.
On switch:
+9 memory staff
+3 hat
+3 ammy
+3 ES ormus
Defiance Merc with Insight, Eth Stone(?) and tals(?) probably.
No clue what my sockets would look like, considering resists don't really matter.
Suggestions on the "?'s" are appreciated.
Thanks.
Valar-Wrath said:
frosties for gloves.
gaze for merc.
eth stone works.
WW's are nice and give some extra fire res.
I'd go dual ravens and carry around a dwarf, you never know.
Normally for a tank i'd go SS, but you're not really negating any phys dmg do the 35% DR could be misplaced in this situation. It will help vs bowazons but you're not too worried about them with max ES. So maybe Gerkes is the best choice, altho dont count luna out, a ton of cold 'sorb.
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I'd definitely go with Dwarf-Raven over dual Ravens for the added life and MDR. You could even argue for dual Dwarfs... so definitely not dual Ravens.
Silkweaves might be worth considering for boots since you don't need the extra fire res from WWs and you likely won't be approaching max res anyway. Treks are always good, too.
I don't understand maxing Warmth when your Merc is already wearing Insight. This would free up points for CM and Shiver Armor.
EDIT: After thinking more about boots I realized Treks are by far your best option. The str will help you equip Gerke's and GBane, the dex will help you get max block, the 20% FHR is very nice, and the huge poison resist is godly for this build since ES doesn't help you against poison.
Silkweaves might be worth considering for boots since you don't need the extra fire res from WWs and you likely won't be approaching max res anyway. Treks are always good, too.
I don't understand maxing Warmth when your Merc is already wearing Insight. This would free up points for CM and Shiver Armor.
EDIT: After thinking more about boots I realized Treks are by far your best option. The str will help you equip Gerke's and GBane, the dex will help you get max block, the 20% FHR is very nice, and the huge poison resist is godly for this build since ES doesn't help you against poison.
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I meant to put that in my previous post: Sols in armor and helm, Shael in shield, some kind of +stat socket in the Wizzy (Lum maybe for the +10 energy?).
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Laggy crappy net...
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Ok, i will try to help then..
If you wanna make ultra-energy shield build, initially supported by maxed Warmth and "insight" armed mercA2 (17lvl Mediatation aura is unbelievable support in this case). So you will achieve your goals if you follow the next few advices:
1. SOJS and only sojs - 50% more mana cannot be replaced by nothing. This is enourmous boost.
2.You MUST use CTA6 Bo (+Lidless shield in the other hand if don't match the high strenght requirments of Spirit monarch shield).
3. Don't have to max ES - store 10 clean lighting skillers in your stash, and use them for prebuff before your adventures in the diablo world. The (+9 ES Memory was already mentioned above).
So you will need 10( Light. sk.) + 9 (Memory)+2 (sojs)+1(arach belt)+3 (helm)+1 (anni)+1 (Battle command)+3(amulet)+3 (ES ormus)= 33 bonus skills to ES!! => you need only 7 "hard" points to invest in ES to reach lvl 40
So, roughly your skills investment plan will be:
20 TK
20 WARMTH
20 FO
20 CM
7 ES
(4) 1FN/1Blizzard/1Glacial spike/1 IB /1 Ice bolt- prerequired
1 Teleport
The rest in Ice Bolt to improve your destructive powers.
4. THE CHARMS:
4.1 Forget about the cold skillers
, your main power is in the enduring mana pool. So you will have to use 4x life/59 mana grand charms. Yeah, they are not the cheapest stuff arround, but actually are pretty available thanks to the noobs who undervalue them :lol:. You can buy them for almost nothing from the public trade games.
4.2 The scs - 20life/17 mana - here is no salvation, you will have to put your hand deeply in the wallet (rune mules).
5. Pump dex for max block to become a real tank-sorc!
Best possible ES sorc, alone can have 2k mana NAKED!
With the best equpment and selfbuffing you can achieve over 6.5k mana with insane regeneration. Your life with base vitality would be nearly 1k without BO (or 1.9k with self buff).
If you wanna make ultra-energy shield build, initially supported by maxed Warmth and "insight" armed mercA2 (17lvl Mediatation aura is unbelievable support in this case). So you will achieve your goals if you follow the next few advices:
1. SOJS and only sojs - 50% more mana cannot be replaced by nothing. This is enourmous boost.
2.You MUST use CTA6 Bo (+Lidless shield in the other hand if don't match the high strenght requirments of Spirit monarch shield).
3. Don't have to max ES - store 10 clean lighting skillers in your stash, and use them for prebuff before your adventures in the diablo world. The (+9 ES Memory was already mentioned above).
So you will need 10( Light. sk.) + 9 (Memory)+2 (sojs)+1(arach belt)+3 (helm)+1 (anni)+1 (Battle command)+3(amulet)+3 (ES ormus)= 33 bonus skills to ES!! => you need only 7 "hard" points to invest in ES to reach lvl 40
So, roughly your skills investment plan will be:
20 TK
20 WARMTH
20 FO
20 CM
7 ES
(4) 1FN/1Blizzard/1Glacial spike/1 IB /1 Ice bolt- prerequired
1 Teleport
The rest in Ice Bolt to improve your destructive powers.
4. THE CHARMS:
4.1 Forget about the cold skillers
, your main power is in the enduring mana pool. So you will have to use 4x life/59 mana grand charms. Yeah, they are not the cheapest stuff arround, but actually are pretty available thanks to the noobs who undervalue them :lol:. You can buy them for almost nothing from the public trade games.4.2 The scs - 20life/17 mana - here is no salvation, you will have to put your hand deeply in the wallet (rune mules).
5. Pump dex for max block to become a real tank-sorc!
Best possible ES sorc, alone can have 2k mana NAKED!
With the best equpment and selfbuffing you can achieve over 6.5k mana with insane regeneration. Your life with base vitality would be nearly 1k without BO (or 1.9k with self buff).
Dad Daniel said:Ok, i will try to help then..
If you wanna make ultra-energy shield build, initially supported by maxed Warmth and "insight" armed mercA2 (17lvl Mediatation aura is unbelievable support in this case). So you will achieve your goals if you follow the next few advices:
1. SOJS and only sojs - 50% more mana cannot be replaced by nothing. This is enourmous boost.
2.You MUST use CTA6 Bo (+Lidless shield in the other hand if don't match the high strenght requirments of Spirit monarch shield).
3. Don't have to max ES - store 10 clean lighting skillers in your stash, and use them for prebuff before your adventures in the diablo world. The (+9 ES Memory was already mentioned above).
So you will need 10( Light. sk.) + 9 (Memory)+2 (sojs)+1(arach belt)+3 (helm)+1 (anni)+1 (Battle command)+3(amulet)+3 (ES ormus)= 33 bonus skills to ES!! => you need only 7 "hard" points to invest in ES to reach lvl 40
So, roughly your skills investment plan will be:
20 TK
20 WARMTH
20 FO
20 CM
7 ES
(4) 1FN/1Blizzard/1Glacial spike/1 IB /1 Ice bolt- prerequired
1 Teleport
The rest in Ice Bolt to improve your destructive powers.
4. THE CHARMS:
4.1 Forget about the cold skillers
4.2 The scs - 20life/17 mana - here is no salvation, you will have to put your hand deeply in the wallet (rune mules).
5. Pump dex for max block to become a real tank-sorc!
Best possible ES sorc, alone can have 2k mana NAKED!
With the best equpment and selfbuffing you can achieve over 6.5k mana with insane regeneration. Your life with base vitality would be nearly 1k without BO (or 1.9k with self buff).
so in order for this build to work he MUST have a full inv of lightning skillers, A full inv of cold skillers, vita/mana small charms, oh and can't do without a perfect cta?
I'm sorry, but thats ridiculous. This build does not need to be anywhere near that expensive, nor would I ever consider advising anyone on spending that much on said build.
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AzaZaz said:
1. WHERE i have mentioned cold skillers use in this example ???
I DON'T RECOMENDED them !!! Please read carefully!
2.You need 8-10 Gc's life/mana and 9 scs life/mana - is that "IMPOSSIBLE"?
3. Of course you can WASTE 10 hard points in the ES instead using Lighting clean skillers - each one cost pul approximetly. I am so sorry that still exist people which cannot afford 10x pul runes...
You will use lighting skillers ONLY for prebuff; and will keep them in the STASH not in inventory most of the time.
4. Perf CTA (6/6/4??)- NO! You can go and with CTA1 Bo if you are poor, but 5 more skills in Bo is the way to reduce the chance being owned from TPPKers to a minimum lvl.
5. Negatiating vitality is a bit risky - thats why i recomended as much as possible life from charms. But, again, if you want at the same time to CREATE THE BEST HARDCORE TANK and you are absolutely poor, don't even try it.
