Any other ladder purists on these forums?

[boogyman19946]

Re: Any other ladder purists on these forums?

Cheater.

lawl your post count XD

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[Noodle]

Re: Any other ladder purists on these forums?

To the OP: You may call yourself 'pure', but if you have gained either experience or items through party play with anyone who has used duped items, you are definitely not 'pure.'

 

[Zerosugar]

Re: Any other ladder purists on these forums?

To the OP: You may call yourself 'pure', but if you have gained either experience or items through party play with anyone who has used duped items, you are definitely not 'pure.'

I haven't . The only party play i have done is doing forge rushes for others. The only rewards i have gotten was the forge itself. All my items have been selffound 100%.

These are some of the things gotten over the course of a month

2xHoZ
5xfacets
2xarachnids
3xharlequins
1x SoJ
2x Wisp Projectors
2x Natures peace
1xhighlords
1xatmas
1xArkaine's
2xAnni's (although you could make a case i got these from dupes by proxy since Dclone is popped from non ladder)
1xOcculus
1x Eschutas
2x Draculs
3x3key sets

Not to mention Vex,gul,mal, ists, um's a bunch of skillers and sc MF'ers and tons of other smaller uniques worth pull or less.


I do fairly well on my own even though i will probably never see a highend runeword. But i can live with that. The only items I'm hoping to find during my farming is a Homonculus or however it's spelled and an arm of king leoric. Rest is just an added bonus. As you can see if i cared about trading i could have gotten anything i wanted by now between the SoJ,The HoZ's and the Arachnids.


As far as i know grouping with others in MP that uses runewords gotten from likely duped runes has nothing to do with being pure. When talking about being a purist it has always been my understanding it only extended using anything but items you found yourself. I never heard anyone say anything about gaining experience or levels grouping with others that used possible dupes excluded you from being a pure player. Unless you just made that up right now which i believe you did to be a smart alec.

Here is a quote from the abbreviations stickie thread on this site

Purist - Characters who only use items they found themselves. No trading, transfering of items from other characters, or Magic Finding.

I guess the only rule you can accuse me of breaking is the muling part. Although i don't read it as muling but equipping from other chars you own in which case i don't. If muling totally excludes me as a purist then i take it back.. I'm not a purist. I'm just somebody who doesn't trade end of story.

I wonder what it is with this thread that provokes people. I believe i asked if there were any purists on these forums. Not who isn't a purist. Nor do i ask for suggestions on which mode i should play. Is it because the thread smells like "I'm better than you because i don't trade"? If thats the case then it's all in your own minds. Or is it poor reading skills when reading topics that plagues some of you forum users.

 

[stephan]

Re: Any other ladder purists on these forums?

As far as i know grouping with others in MP that uses runewords gotten from likely duped runes has nothing to do with being pure. When talking about being a purist it has always been my understanding it only extended using anything but items you found yourself. I never heard anyone say anything about gaining experience or levels grouping with others that used possible dupes excluded you from being a pure player. Unless you just made that up right now which i believe you did to be a smart alec.

It's not made up. What is 'pure' just has different definitions to different people. If one has benefited from duped items by playing with others, it's certainly not a stretch to not call that pure anymore.

I wonder what it is with this thread that provokes people. I believe i asked if there were any purists on these forums.

Because you asked that first, then later on called everybody else a potential cheater. So why ask the question? You can't trust anyone, right?

Not who isn't a purist. Nor do i ask for suggestions on which mode i should play. Is it because the thread smells like "I'm better than you because i don't trade"? If thats the case then it's all in your own minds. Or is it poor reading skills when reading topics that plagues some of you forum users.

Hmm. Nah. The thread and you don't have a smell of a misplaced feeling of superiority. It's more like a stench. Of course it must be everybody else's reading skills, and not the way you present yourself.

 

[Hrus]

Re: Any other ladder purists on these forums?

But as i said i have seen enough posts on these forums to taint my view on finding legitimate players here.
... link... Here is somebody admitting to botting
....link... here is somebody who wants to buy items online

You realized that the posts you are referencing are made by people having 12 and 25 postcount? Not really good examples.

We as SPF players just want to let you know that we
- don't play Open
- only trade or MP with other SPF members via tcp/ip
- pride ourselves to have legitimate D2 environment (there might be someone who cheats, you never know, but I am sure the percent is really low and if someone is caught using hacks/cheats and he traded and/or MPed with others, he has a guaranteed ban).
- in our eyes this is pure enough. It's probably not enough pure for you, but I can accept it, I am also little bit paranoic and don't trade even in SPF.
- we don't like people who think that all SP players automatically hacks and cheats, because they can... because we don't.


I also don't understand your remark on botting. Bot has a same chance to get the desired items, but he has more time for it. For example if you can play 4 hours a day and bot can play 24 hours a day, in the end, he has 6x more good items than you.
Nowadays when I personally have almost no time for D2, in some way I hate people who are able to play more and getting richer and richer than me. I would really hate someone using a bot...

 

[korialstraz]

Re: Any other ladder purists on these forums?

Easier yes but the drop chances is the same for them as it is for me. If they can kill 3 favored NPC's 1 Boss 2 elite bosses for my 1 pr game if we are to stick to the 3 minute rule doesn't really increase their chances astronomically. But then again i can live with it over editors.

They can bot while you sleep and go to school/work. Which means they can probably run mf games 10x the amount of mf games you can and more. Especially if they got 2 comps and 2 keys... or more. Yea the difference is barely noticable. I guess that's why it isn't popular... oh wait.

 

[Mursilis]

Re: Any other ladder purists on these forums?

I haven't . The only party play i have done is doing forge rushes for others. The only rewards i have gotten was the forge itself. All my items have been selffound 100%.

Don't quote me on this but I seem to recall there are some people here who play in similar style on Bnet, but in a group. Only using self-found items and not trading/playing with the general Bnet population. You should be able to find them in the player matchup forum if they are still around.

Just an FYI, some people from the SPF do the same thing in TCP/IP games (multiplayer) with their SP characters. That would make them purists as well, just without the Ubers/DClone and therefore probably not quite what you are looking for.

 

[Noodle]

Re: Any other ladder purists on these forums?

I haven't . )

Unless you just made that up right now which i believe you did to be a smart alec.

Nope, just pointing out that members of the Single Player Forum typically hold themselves to a higher standard.

 

[Zerosugar]

Re: Any other ladder purists on these forums?

It's not made up. What is 'pure' just has different definitions to different people. If one has benefited from duped items by playing with others, it's certainly not a stretch to not call that pure anymore.

If there is different definitions then why does yours count more than others??. It doesn't. I go by the definition in the stickied thread on these forums. I really can't use your personal definitions for anything.

Because you asked that first, then later on called everybody else a potential cheater. So why ask the question? You can't trust anyone, right?

of course i can you don't know my motivation for asking. You can only assume which makes an a** out of you. Everybody is a potential cheater. Your naive faith in others has nothing to do with the reality most of us live in. I know who i can trust. People i know in rl. Not some random i met online. if people were so trustworthy this site wouldn't have a DnT list for SP and poofable runes on ladder now would we.

Hmm. Nah. The thread and you don't have a smell of a misplaced feeling of superiority. It's more like a stench. Of course it must be everybody else's reading skills, and not the way you present yourself.

Like i said that's all in your own head. If you feel inferior to somebody like me then don't project that on to me or the thread. That really has nothing to do with the post or the question i posted. That's your perception based on how you feel about yourself.

They can bot while you sleep and go to school/work. Which means they can probably run mf games 10x the amount of mf games you can and more. Especially if they got 2 comps and 2 keys... or more. Yea the difference is barely noticable. I guess that's why it isn't popular... oh wait.

They are also more likely to face a future ban. If you scroll back you would see i said i can live with that. What botters risk their accounts to do really has nothing to do with why i made this post.

I also don't understand your remark on botting. Bot has a same chance to get the desired items, but he has more time for it. For example if you can play 4 hours a day and bot can play 24 hours a day, in the end, he has 6x more good items than you.
Nowadays when I personally have almost no time for D2, in some way I hate people who are able to play more and getting richer and richer than me. I would really hate someone using a bot...

Like i said you don't know how much i play. If i say i play 2 hours a day then my point was obviously moot. If i say i play 12+ i leave myself open to the no life kind of comments so there is no win to your argument. Instead i will say like i told that other guy. They face a likely ban in the future so i can live with that.

We as SPF players just want to let you know that we
- don't play Open
- only trade or MP with other SPF members via tcp/ip
- pride ourselves to have legitimate D2 environment (there might be someone who cheats, you never know, but I am sure the percent is really low and if someone is caught using hacks/cheats and he traded and/or MPed with others, he has a guaranteed ban).
- in our eyes this is pure enough. It's probably not enough pure for you, but I can accept it, I am also little bit paranoic and don't trade even in SPF.
- we don't like people who think that all SP players automatically hacks and cheats, because they can... because we don't.

I could be wrong since i don't know the therm "msn trading" but the single player forum is not that pure. I'm sure there are pure players among you i just don't see any when i browse through the sp part of this place. And really...How do you know your group of forum friends don't cheat?..How do you know? because you made a secret pact and have your own handshake?..Really how do you know?....just as i can't be 100% sure neither can you. Saying becauser it's easier is precisely why the cummunity cheat less is a bit ludicrous. Furthermore i don't call anybody a cheater i call them possible cheaters and this goes for SP only. When it comes to ladder and using runewords you know is from duped runes that is up to your own concience which i could care less about. I decided this time around to not trade period. What you and your group of forum friends does has little to do with me and my playstyle or why i made this post


You can feel free to make any retaliating remarks but they won't be responded to by me nor read. So you can have the last word if you like..as long as you promise it will be your last .


Now to get this back on topic

If there is any other ladder purists on these parts that is not too scared to stick their heads out then speak up or forever hold your peace.

 

[stephan]

Re: Any other ladder purists on these forums?

If there is different definitions then why does yours count more than others??

Mine doesn't count more, very simple. Your misplaced feeling of superiority however gives you the idea that if you didn't hear about something it can't exist and everybody who disagrees with you is by definition wrong.

of course i can you don't know my motivation for asking.

We've already established it is because you want to show off your misplaced feeling of superiority. You want to be praised for it and belittle others who don't hold themselves to your peculiar standards.

You can only assume which makes an a** out of you.

Well I asked you and you don't answer. That makes you the ***, I suppose.

Everybody is a potential cheater. Your naive faith in others has nothing to do with the reality most of us live in. I know who i can trust. People i know in rl. Not some random i met online. if people were so trustworthy this site wouldn't have a DnT list for SP and poofable runes on ladder now would we.

Did I say everyone should be trusted? I just don't see the point in asking a question who is pure when you later on admit you will not believe them anyway. Why should we believe you on your word if we go that way? What's the point of going into to the matter? Everybody is a cheater, and so are you. There can only be one reason for this thread.

Now give it a rest, cause you're not getting any. :wave:

 

[Zerosugar]

Re: Any other ladder purists on these forums?

Don't quote me on this but I seem to recall there are some people here who play in similar style on Bnet, but in a group. Only using self-found items and not trading/playing with the general Bnet population. You should be able to find them in the player matchup forum if they are still around.

Thanks for the suggestion. I will give it a look and see. If not then maybe i should start one .

Playing as a purist is the most fun i have had in D2 for years.

 

[Mursilis]

It's not made up. What is 'pure' just has different definitions to different people. If one has benefited from duped items by playing with others, it's certainly not a stretch to not call that pure anymore.

If there is different definitions then why does yours count more than others??. It doesn't. I go by the definition in the stickied thread on these forums. I really can't use your personal definitions for anything.

That also happens to be the definition of the SPF. If you play or trade with someone using a mod for example, you are tainted by that mod and can no longer be called "pure". It's how the SPF stays as legitimate as possible. All members abide by the given rules and with a core group of very intelligent and game knowledgeable individuals any would-be cheaters are normally discovered early and tossed out. Making the SPF probably one of the more legitimate groups this side of Nevernever land. Purist by your definition, no, but legitimate as per this boards definition, most definitely. So please, refrain for calling all SPFers potential cheaters. Thanks.

 

[zkaccn]

Re: Any other ladder purists on these forums?

excuse me if anyone could help me out but i have no clue what "duping" means at all...
so can someone respond quick so i dont feel like a retard...

 

[Zerosugar]

Re: Any other ladder purists on these forums?

So please, refrain for calling all SPFers potential cheaters. Thanks.

I just call it like i see it. You may know your not a cheater but you can't really speak for anybody else can you. I can easily claim to be legit without giving myself level 99 with an editor but give myself a few levels here and there. Who's going to know. Oops i put a point in wrong..Let me go back and change it with my editor. Hey i just got some more str with this great GC. Now i can shave off some points using my editor and put them in vitality. I'm not saying i would evr do that but the possibilities is there for me and everybody else. I have never cheated using an editor. You have as much reason to believe that as i have to believe in your proclaims.


No you don't know what your buddies are doing don't even pretend to. You may take pride in your community and the people you play with and that's fine. You may even take insult to my insinuation which is fine as well. Bottom line is what you trust and believe in does not transfer over to what i should believe in. To me you are a potential cheater. it doesn't really matter what you are since i don't know you. To me you are just a bunch of text on a message board same as everybody else here. If i knew you in real life and could make that distinction then i would have a different opinion about you and your selfproclaimed pure enviroment you seem to believe you play in. Since i don't. You're just empty words.


Now as for me looking for purist players was a strictly curiosity type of question. Sure a person may lie about being pure but since this thread is not asking to be buddy buddy or cross trade there is little to no motivation to lie about it. If you are part of this uber superior SPF community that shuns all cheaters. Then you would have plenty of reasons to lie to avoid being cast out. That is not the same as saying SPF'ers are all liars or cheaters. Only an idiot would draw that conclusion from what i said. But to me they are potential cheaters. So is anybody i should choose to trade with on ladder. Not in the sense that they use bots but they can have bought items for rl cash likely duped. It's not an urban legend that over 90% of HR's are duped.

You can either accept it and be happy you have easy access to runewords. Or you can do as i do. Take as much distance to it as possible.This way i avoid a community with available editors and i avoid a broken ladder economy based on dupes. If anybody wish to draw the conclusion that it's a superior attitude then that's what it is. Atleast to those that wish to trade in known dupes.

I don't create runewords out of dupes. When it comes to D2 then yes that makes me feel I'm better than those that do on ladder only. Whatever the SPF community does is not of my concern.

What it comes down to is ..playing in a place with people that can and often do use editors or playing in a place where dupes are a common thing. The lesser evil for me is ladder. I can give newbies gear without recieving anything in return. That does not constitute as trading. I can rush people for forge. I can even rush them for free. I can give people waypoints. There are over a 100 different things i can do without breaking any purist rules in a MP enviroment. An enviroment not plagued by editors, mods or other.

 

[Gorny1]

Re: Any other ladder purists on these forums?

This thread seems to have turned into a witch hunt rather than a discussion.

So I'm stopping it here.