Absolute Ideal Gear For a BvC?
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Well, something like this
However, that gear is of course pretty much impossible to get, so you should stick with the normal pubsetup:
CoA 'BerBer'
Enigma
Grief
Beast
Arachnid's Mesh
2x Ravenfrosts
Dracul's
Triple Resistance boots
Highlord's
2x Dooms
Grief is always better than any EBotdZ in average damage.
34/340 GriefZ -> 387.5 damage
415% EBotdZ -> 366.9375 damage
Thus, 340 GriefZ is ~5.6% better than a perfect EBotdZ. Now, a 400 GriefZ would be ~22% better than a perfect EBotdZ.
The Dooms are for +4 skills, damage and holy freeze.
You will need 34 or more IAS on your Grief. Off-weapon IAS and Skill-IAS do not help Whirlwind as it only factors on-weapon IAS.
coa or arre "ber" depends on your belt
eni ofc
hl
grief + fury ba or beast ba
dracs
gores
the bugged belt
2 fc rings
res scs with life
gores + hl is a must coz of the dmg the deal
res comes form scs
and stat enough dex for a storm - coz bva > bvc
they will leave the game if you come an block their dual bas
eni ofc
hl
grief + fury ba or beast ba
dracs
gores
the bugged belt
2 fc rings
res scs with life
gores + hl is a must coz of the dmg the deal
res comes form scs
and stat enough dex for a storm - coz bva > bvc
they will leave the game if you come an block their dual bas
MysticDragon
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Go with Ce Olba's description.
"Ber" Arreats is a rather foolish move. It will only grant you 8% PDR and that means you have 16% with Enigma, pretty much making it useless.
Grief+Beast does the most damage.
Nice going, you just lost ~45 triple resistances!
BB is actually pretty useless. The only few occasions where it could be useful would be versus Smiters, Zealots and maybe Windies. And out of those three, it's only really helpful against Smiters.
Have a nice day and a 11k Blizz, here! Oh wait, you just lost 3700 life! Oh mi god!
Excuse me? Are you planning to actually hit something? max/ar/lifers, anyone? ar/lifers, anyone? torch, anni anyone?
No it's not, otherwise mcm would be losing his duels.
You do realize that you will need 9-10 perfect 5 all res lifers simply to replace the boots you swapped? Good going. Now, that means you lose 180-200 AR before multipliers, equal to ~1053 - 1170 lost AR. Not to mention the lost damage.
You do realize that with the best gear in the game and building in with bb and an elded storm, you are talking about ~93 base dex? Do you realize that this means you lose ~440 life? No, I don't think it's worth it, not even if you have perfect items.
they will leave the game if you come an block their dual bas
No, the sorcs will just laugh at your puny 6100 life at lvl 99 or your 5800ish life at lvl 90. And you will be dead in 2 blizzards due to no ravenfrosts. Oh and wait, you're not going to hit anyone except some druids and sorcs because you have no +ar from charms, meaning ~7500 ar with ravens or ~5000 with FCR rings. Good luck.
how are you going to kill a 85 resist barb within 3 hits? i assume they have atleast a tgod.
plus even with a 30000 average lightning damage with 75% resist you will need... assuming they have 6500 life..
30000x0.17x0.25=1275 pvp damage
6500/1275= 5-6 hits to kill them...
it's gonna take more to kill a barb wearing only 1 tgod.
plus even with a 30000 average lightning damage with 75% resist you will need... assuming they have 6500 life..
30000x0.17x0.25=1275 pvp damage
6500/1275= 5-6 hits to kill them...
it's gonna take more to kill a barb wearing only 1 tgod.
6500 life is assuming a lot in a pub game
i max 36k dmg (as far as i know 30k average isnt possible, that implies 60k max?), so 1530 a hit (you are forgetting -res).. i also said "unless they use absorb"
if they have tgods and sorb then yes it will take more then 3 hits
"only 1 tgod?" wasnt aware you could wear more then 1
i max 36k dmg (as far as i know 30k average isnt possible, that implies 60k max?), so 1530 a hit (you are forgetting -res).. i also said "unless they use absorb"
if they have tgods and sorb then yes it will take more then 3 hits
"only 1 tgod?" wasnt aware you could wear more then 1
not really since dupes are so easy to get in uswest/east
plus let say 6000, which is NOT alot in pubs... umm i wouldn't assume a 18k average damage could kill a barb in 1 hit EVEN in pub. and highly doubt in 3 hits also... unless their resist is THAT bad (lots of people stack their resist.. even pubs)... plus please don't assume you always get 36k MAX damage EVERY hit. Use average damage for your math.
With the right stat/skill placement and the 'the conventional bvc setup' there is no way a barb can get killed in only 3 hits by a 18k lightning.
you are dueling trashy pubs i assume if they get killed in 1 hit...
plus let say 6000, which is NOT alot in pubs... umm i wouldn't assume a 18k average damage could kill a barb in 1 hit EVEN in pub. and highly doubt in 3 hits also... unless their resist is THAT bad (lots of people stack their resist.. even pubs)... plus please don't assume you always get 36k MAX damage EVERY hit. Use average damage for your math.
With the right stat/skill placement and the 'the conventional bvc setup' there is no way a barb can get killed in only 3 hits by a 18k lightning.
you are dueling trashy pubs i assume if they get killed in 1 hit...
i was talking about standard gear - not about the solution whitch fits in special 1 on 1s
dont know why you want to miss hl + gores - you cannot get the dmg you lose without these items with 3/20/20s.
here are some answers to your comments:
Arre ber? Read all: 8arre 8eni 20 bb and thats enough for most enemies
Arreats gives more skills (through that more res ar)
arre gives more dmg (str skills)
arre gives more ar (20% bonus)
tribble res boots.
i only needed res through boots against foh, maybe blizz. So tribble res boots are more than a special item.
nevertheless there is no optimum advidce how to build.
The only enemies my barb feared were some hammerdins. And the upper class, which is rare, of most other char classes
32020s give AR and the added damage. You see, the damage added from 32020s is constant and it keeps adding up each time you hit your opponent.
And getting 20/5's isn't exactly easy either.
Hah, going against any sorc with no CBF and only 20% FCR is rather foolish. Not to mention trying to duel smiters with 5000 AR when they can have 20-40k defense, giving you a CTH of about 5%.
The added resistance is AT BEST 3%, more likely 0-2%. The added AR is minimal, about 36%, when you already have ~485%. Nice, you increased your AR by 7.4% and sacrificed 31% PDR, 20% FCR, CBF and ~2700 AR.
Again, the added damage gives you an increase of ~6.5% damage.
The increase in AR is at best around 1000. And since you use FCR rings, your AR is crap anyways.
Stacking against cold sorcs is rather foolish as they can have up to -300 CR, meaning you are brought to -100 too easily. Good luck stacking 475% CR because you are too stubborn to use 2x ravenfrosts for 160% effective resistances.
