23 Runeword Search Thread
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Diabolic Apom
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One more wicked acronym :
Pul Ort/Ohm Lum/Lem/Lo El/Eld/Eth in a polearm. Ohm is often seen second, and Eth is reccurent final. As for the third rune, I have absolutely no idea, but if I had to say something, it would be PulOhmLemEth.
I have studied InsaneFarmer's analysis, and have tried to imagine most likely candidates for each position. I have to examine 1st and 2nd more, but as for the others, I have these likely candidates :
third rune :
Pul, which appears three times, always in third position.
(perhaps Mal, half of the time in third position.)
fourth rune :
Hel, whose pattern is 1-2-3 as for now ; 1-2-3-4 would be nice.
Lo, which appears twice, always in fourth position.
(perhaps Ist, half of the time in fourth position.)
fifth rune :
Eld, whose pattern is 2-3-4 to this day ; 2-3-4-5 is a logical evolution.
Eth, because it is found very often (ten words) and in all positions, the fifth one being the only where we can't find it yet.
Zod, always found in fifth position (although it doesn't make much sense since he's only present in one word).
sixth rune :
Tir, a very commonly used rune (ten words as well), and in all positions too, except the sixth one... for now.
Pul Ort/Ohm Lum/Lem/Lo El/Eld/Eth in a polearm. Ohm is often seen second, and Eth is reccurent final. As for the third rune, I have absolutely no idea, but if I had to say something, it would be PulOhmLemEth.
I have studied InsaneFarmer's analysis, and have tried to imagine most likely candidates for each position. I have to examine 1st and 2nd more, but as for the others, I have these likely candidates :
third rune :
Pul, which appears three times, always in third position.
(perhaps Mal, half of the time in third position.)
fourth rune :
Hel, whose pattern is 1-2-3 as for now ; 1-2-3-4 would be nice.
Lo, which appears twice, always in fourth position.
(perhaps Ist, half of the time in fourth position.)
fifth rune :
Eld, whose pattern is 2-3-4 to this day ; 2-3-4-5 is a logical evolution.
Eth, because it is found very often (ten words) and in all positions, the fifth one being the only where we can't find it yet.
Zod, always found in fifth position (although it doesn't make much sense since he's only present in one word).
sixth rune :
Tir, a very commonly used rune (ten words as well), and in all positions too, except the sixth one... for now.
InsaneFarmer
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Molegirl said:Hey all. Been lurking on this thread for a long while now (read all the posts..), and there were a couple things I was thinking of.
1) does anybody subscribe to blizzard insider? I remember a long time ago that they were going to drop hints in it. Same with the now flopped Diablo comic. Both may be worth checking out.
2) For three socket items, could they be initals of bliz employees?
3) Wrote out all the known combonations, and marked where the runes tend to be in them. Found some interesting patterns. (like say, Amn is almost always at the begining of a word, with one exception) If anybody wants the list (its in rune order) let me know and i'll post it.
I really REALLY want to help with this, but due to carpel tunnel i can't play, not to mention i'm not supposed to be on the computer more than absolutely nessicary... So, good luck. I'll keep looking for more info.
Hi,
1/yes I subscribe to blizzard insider, and no i haven't noticed anything about runewords, in fact they mostly talk about world of warcraft, the last 3 issues have had absolutely nothing about diablo 2
2/i have no idea if that's the case, it would be something good to look into
3/ yes it's been done, just recently by me, look for the info here
Hi, all. Not much time, just wanted to let everyone know there's an updated spreadsheet if anyone needs it.
just checkin in. yesterday while dii.net was down a bit, i was just browsing the bnet forums and i found a post at which this guy attempts at 2 socket shields. Apparently he tried every single combination (ie, ElEl, EldEl, TirEl, etc up to ZodZod) and he said there was nothing. anyone wanna confirm this if they know anything?
by the way, this post is getting really close to 1000 posts. Amazing I might say. heh
Edit: insane farmer, about the SUT thing, i might try ShaelUmTal in a shield and in a helm, since there is already a SUT in weapon and armor. if it's a runeword, give ya props to it k? :drool:
by the way, this post is getting really close to 1000 posts. Amazing I might say. heh
Edit: insane farmer, about the SUT thing, i might try ShaelUmTal in a shield and in a helm, since there is already a SUT in weapon and armor. if it's a runeword, give ya props to it k? :drool:
Cadogan Trahem
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Just thinking cryptically, but for Blood has anyone thought of using "Countess" as a basis for the rune word... she likes blood. I thought maybe CONTES or COUNTS (pronounse the S rather then making the phonic sound, like Steel, TirEl -> Tir E L = Tyrael)
This would mean:
Cham Ort/Ohm Nef Tal/Thul El/Eld/Eth Sur
or
Cham Ort/Ohm Um Nef Tal/Thul Sur
Since there is no choice for Sur then perhaps Ort is used rather then Ohm however Thul suits her more then Tal too. 6 Socket sword maybe?
This would mean:
Cham Ort/Ohm Nef Tal/Thul El/Eld/Eth Sur
or
Cham Ort/Ohm Um Nef Tal/Thul Sur
Since there is no choice for Sur then perhaps Ort is used rather then Ohm however Thul suits her more then Tal too. 6 Socket sword maybe?
Cadogan Trahem
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I think its a bit uncommon for Blizzard to use the same acronym twice let alone three times, but it could also be a three socket helm rune word rather then a three socket shield. Currently we only have two three socket helm rune words and 4 overall, for shields we also have only two 3 Socket Rune words but 5 overall.
InsaneFarmer
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I noticed just now that I forgot to discuss why I thought Ral-Ort-Tal were strange, I'd noticed when i did all that documenting that the same prefix-suffix combinations of runewords didn't happen often at all, it happens twice, once with amn and once with Ral-Ort-Tal. Ancient's Pledge and King's Grace??? sorry i'm thinking of the name off the top of my head, and i can't remember the one for amn, it wasn't a great big deal but i thought it was neat to notice, after that I thought that maybe the prefix and suffixes have to be similar for instance Zod and Lo could never follow each other. or El+Sur couldn't happen, but that Sur+El could, and would always have to be this way in a runeword. I changed my mind though after i noticed that there a big difference between the 1.09 and 1.10 runewords patterns, i thought there wouldn't be. well it's not that there's a big difference, but it's that, they don't seem to use any of the same prefix/affix combinations. so i wasn't able to make affirmations on this. so the question is moot. but maybe i should take a closer look at all the prefix-suffixes, maybe that'll lead to something.
it's like deciphering a big code, so if any programmers out there think that it would be a viable idea that blizzard would've designed a program in this way let me know. i know nothing about programming, but it seems like if the runes act like a language, it's possible they're like this, i know ancient egyptian functions in this way, certain hieroglyph combinations weren't possible, well they were, but they just made no sense, though I know that we're dealing with runes here and though it's pictographical it's also as a base, from old nordic, (remember my question from like 10 pages ago?) well i figured it's most likely old nordic, and as a rule for runes they could be combined in any which way, almost all had a relevant meaning.
it's like deciphering a big code, so if any programmers out there think that it would be a viable idea that blizzard would've designed a program in this way let me know. i know nothing about programming, but it seems like if the runes act like a language, it's possible they're like this, i know ancient egyptian functions in this way, certain hieroglyph combinations weren't possible, well they were, but they just made no sense, though I know that we're dealing with runes here and though it's pictographical it's also as a base, from old nordic, (remember my question from like 10 pages ago?) well i figured it's most likely old nordic, and as a rule for runes they could be combined in any which way, almost all had a relevant meaning.
InsaneFarmer
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Cadogan Trahem said:
i agree that it's uncommon, but i thought maybe like Molegirl's idea, that the acronym could have some meaning, personally i don't think it's the runeword creator's initials, but still, it could have some significance though i still haven't checked that. crescent moon appears twice in the game, so perhaps there's some diablo lore that i'm unfamiliar with , some hero somewhere, perhaps in one of the books to which this is associated with, i know blizzard has kept it so far that the runewords were rpg related and not randomly selected runewords like "Titanium" or something. So i'm thinking they're getting some ideas from diablo lore, although i'm pretty familiar with it and i think unless it's in one of the comic strips or books, it's not there, because i reviewed even my old diablo 1 manual and didn't see anything
yes i was questioning the ShaelUmTal myself.. i have a Shael Tal and a Pul (i need another to make an Um). but then i started to look at the runewords with the Um rune. current runewords have Um before a Thul (Duress), Pul (Stone and Gloom), and Gul (Kingslayer). now i'm thinking of Dol, because Dol sounds similar, and there was Dol Io (White), and Thul Io Nef (Black), There's a Thul Io, and a Dol Io, so since Dol sounds like Thul, and Pul, and Gul, maybe Shael Um Dol? but there is also a runeword with Um before Mal (Beast) so like Mal maybe Tal? in a helm, Shael for faster hit recovery, Um for all resists, and Dol for Replenish +7, or poison resist. Anyone have any suggestions on what I should do? Dol or Tal (to follow SUT)
InsaneFarmer
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916_Andy said:
the dol does sound good because it's likely it's not a low rune like Tal that's used, however, i wish i could say for certain and i cannot =/
