1.08 News, Info and Gossip

[Fruit]

@WoRG Ah, right, that's a lot more sensible. Was there a specific purpose of that 1.07 list? I'm confused why it would exceed TC66 at all. Or if the idea was "completeness", then why are there items missing? (For example Sacred Armor, which, if not deliberate, might not be the only one. Or maybe that the last part of the list just wasn't included in the copy (paste)? )



Anyway, how's this?

Edit: Fixed the names. Got them from the English language files in stead of from weapons.txt and armor.txt.

qlvl                        rlvl
      TC3
   1  Buckler       
   1  Cap           
   1  Club         
   1  Eagle Orb     
   1  Javelin       
   1  Katar         
   1  Quilted Armor 
   1  Short Bow     
   1  Short Staff   
   1  Short Sword   
   2  Throwing Knife
   2  Wand         
   3  Boots         
   3  Dagger       
   3  Hand Axe     
   3  Leather Armor 
   3  Leather Gloves
   3  Sash         
   3  Scepter       
 
      TC6
   4  Jawbone Cap            3
   4  Preserved Head         3
   4  Spiked Club   
   4  Targe                  3
   4  Wolf Head              3
   5  Bardiche     
   5  Hard Leather Armor
   5  Hunter's Bow 
   5  Scimitar     
   5  Skull Cap     
   5  Small Shield 
   5  Spear         
   6  Large Axe     
   6  Light Crossbow
 
      TC9
   7  Axe           
   7  Heavy Boots   
   7  Heavy Gloves 
   7  Light Belt   
   7  Throwing Axe 
   8  Fanged Helm            6
   8  Hawk Helm              6
   8  Long Bow     
   8  Long Staff   
   8  Mace         
   8  Rondache               6
   8  Sabre         
   8  Sacred Globe 
   8  Studded Leather
   8  Zombie Head            6
   9  Dirk         
   9  Trident       
   9  Wrist Blade   
 
      TC12
  10  Pilum         
  10  Two-Handed Sword
  11  Crystal Sword 
  11  Falchion     
  11  Helm         
  11  Large Shield 
  11  Ring Mail     
  11  Spiked Shield 
  11  Voulge       
  12  Belt         
  12  Broad Axe     
  12  Chain Boots   
  12  Chain Gloves 
  12  Composite Bow 
  12  Gnarled Staff 
  12  Hatchet Hands 
  12  Smoked Sphere          8
  12  Yew Wand     
 
      TC15
  13  Balanced Knife
  13  Double Axe   
  13  Morning Star 
  13  Scale Mail   
  15  Broad Sword   
  15  Cestus       
  15  Chain Mail   
  15  Crossbow     
  15  Full Helm     
  15  Grand Scepter 
  15  Kite Shield   
  15  Scythe       
  15  Short Spear   
 
      TC18
  16  Antlers               12
  16  Balanced Axe 
  16  Brandistock   
  16  Heraldic Shield       12
  16  Horned Helm           12
  16  Unraveller Head       12
  17  Battle Axe   
  17  Battle Staff 
  17  Clasped Orb           13
  17  Claymore     
  17  Kris         
  18  Bone Wand     
  18  Breast Plate 
  18  Claws         
  18  Maiden Spear          14
  18  Short Battle Bow
  18  Stag Bow              14
 
      TC21
  19  Bone Shield   
  19  Flail         
  19  Mask         
  19  Military Pick 
  20  Aerin Shield          15
  20  Assault Helmet        15
  20  Falcon Mask           15
  20  Gargoyle Head         15
  20  Heavy Belt   
  20  Light Gauntlets
  20  Light Plated Boots
  20  Long Sword   
  20  Spetum       
  20  Splint Mail   
  21  Blade Talons 
  21  Giant Sword   
  21  Maul         
  21  Poleaxe       
  21  War Scepter   
 
      TC24
  22  Bone Helm     
  22  Tower Shield 
  23  Blade         
  23  Glaive       
  23  Great Axe     
  23  Great Helm   
  23  Long Battle Bow
  23  Maiden Javelin        17
  24  Avenger Guard         18
  24  Bastard Sword 
  24  Circlet               16
  24  Crown Shield          18
  24  Demon Head            18
  24  Heavy Crossbow
  24  Jared's Stone         18
  24  Pike         
  24  Plate Mail   
  24  Scissors Katar
  24  Spirit Mask           18
  24  War Staff     
 
      TC27
  25  War Axe       
  25  War Hammer   
  26  Grim Wand     
  27  Flamberge     
  27  Gauntlets     
  27  Giant Axe     
  27  Greaves       
  27  Maiden Pike           20
  27  Plated Belt   
  27  Reflex Bow            20
  27  Short War Bow 
  27  War Sword     
 
      TC30
  28  Field Plate   
  28  Quhab                 21
  29  Crown         
  29  Halberd       
  29  Throwing Spear
  30  Cudgel                18
  30  Edge Bow              18
  30  Gladius               18
  30  Gothic Shield 
  30  Jo Staff              18
  30  War Javelin           18
 
      TC33
  31  Battle Dart           19
  31  Burnt Wand            19
  31  Hatchet               19
  31  Long War Bow 
  31  Poignard              19
  31  Rune Scepter          19
  32  Barbed Club           20
  32  Glowing Orb           24
  32  Gothic Plate 
  32  Great Maul   
  32  Wrist Spike           24
  33  Great Sword   
  33  Jawbone Visor         25
  33  Lochaber Axe          21
  33  Mummified Trophy      24
  33  Razor Bow             21
  33  Repeating Crossbow
  33  War Spear             21
 
      TC36
  34  Arbalest              22
  34  Cleaver               22
  34  Defender              22
  34  Francisca             22
  34  Ghost Armor           22
  34  Military Axe          22
  34  War Hat               22
  34  War Scythe   
  35  Akaran Targe          26
  35  Alpha Helm            26
  35  Cedar Bow             23
  35  Ceremonial Javelin    26
  35  Flanged Mace          23
  35  Light Plate   
  35  Partizan              23
  35  Quarterstaff          23
  35  Shamshir              23
  36  Demonhide Boots       24
  36  Demonhide Gloves      24
  36  Demonhide Sash        24
  36  Fascia                27
  36  Fuscina               24
  36  Rondel                24
  36  Serpentskin Armor     24
 
      TC39
  37  Bill                  25
  37  Crystalline Globe     27
  37  Demonhide Armor       25
  37  Dimensional Blade     25
  37  Espandon              25
  37  Full Plate Mail
  37  Great Pilum           25
  37  Round Shield          25
  37  Sallet                25
  37  Tulwar                25
  38  Bearded Axe           25
  38  Cedar Staff           25
  38  Lion Helm             29
  38  Petrified Wand        25
  39  Ashwood Bow           29
  39  Double Bow            25
  39  Fetish Trophy         29
  39  Jagged Star           25
  39  Sharkskin Belt        25
  39  Sharkskin Boots       25
  39  Sharkskin Gloves      25
  39  Twin Axe              25
  39  War Dart              25
 
      TC42
  40  Akaran Rondache       30
  40  Ancient Armor 
  40  Battle Scythe         25
  40  Battle Sword          25
  40  Griffon Headdress     30
  40  Holy Water Sprinkler  25
  40  Siege Crossbow        25
  40  Simbilan              25
  40  Trellised Armor       25
  41  Cloudy Sphere         30
  41  Hand Scythe           30
  41  Hurlbat               25
  41  War Fork              25
  42  Barbed Shield         25
  42  Casque                25
  42  Cinquedeas            25
  42  Dacian Falx           25
  42  Gothic Staff          25
  42  Linked Mail           25
  42  Scutum                25
  42  Tabar                 25
 
      TC45
  43  Ceremonial Spear      32
  43  Crowbill              25
  43  Cutlass               25
  43  Heavy Bracers         25
  43  Knout                 25
  43  Mesh Belt             25
  43  Mesh Boots            25
  43  Short Siege Bow       25
  43  Tigulated Mail        25
  43  Tomb Wand             25
  44  Rage Mask             29
  44  Rune Sword            25
  44  Yari                  25
  45  Basinet               25
  45  Divine Scepter        25
  45  Dragon Shield         25
  45  Greater Claws         33
  45  Mesh Armor            25
  45  Sexton Trophy         33
  45  Tusk Sword            25
  45  War Club              25
 
      TC48
  46  Gothic Axe            25
  46  Hunter's Guise        29
  46  Large Siege Bow       25
  46  Protector Shield      34
  46  Sparkling Ball        34
  46  Spiculum              25
  46  Stiletto              25
  47  Ballista              25
  47  Ceremonial Bow        35
  47  Cuirass               25
  47  Lance                 25
  47  Rune Staff            25
  48  Battle Hammer         25
  48  Death Mask            25
  48  Gothic Sword          25
  48  Grim Shield           25
  48  Naga                  25
 
      TC51
  49  Ancient Sword         25
  49  Battle Belt           25
  49  Battle Boots          25
  49  Battle Gauntlets      25
  49  Cantor Trophy         36
  49  Grave Wand            25
  49  Rune Bow              25
  49  Russet Armor          25
  49  Savage Helmet         32
  49  Zweihander            25
  50  Greater Talons        37
  50  Grim Helm             25
  50  Pavise                25
  50  Sacred Feathers       32
  50  Swirling Crystal      37
  51  Ancient Axe           25
  51  Bec-de-Corbin         25
  51  Ceremonial Pike       38
  51  Gilded Shield         38
  51  Harpoon               25
  51  Winged Helm           25
 
      TC54
  52  Coronet               39
  52  Gothic Bow            25
  52  Templar Coat          25
  52  Truncheon             39
  53  Martel de Fer         25
  53  Matriarchal Bow       39
  54  Chu-Ko-Nu             25
  54  Executioner Sword     25
  54  Giant Conch           40
  54  Hierophant Trophy     40
  54  Hyperion Javelin      40
  54  Scissors Quhab        40
  54  Slayer Guard          40
  54  Tomahawk              40
  54  War Belt              25
  54  War Boots             25
  54  War Gauntlets         25
 
      TC57
  55  Grand Crown           25
  55  Grim Scythe           25
  55  Polished Wand         41
  55  Royal Shield          41
  55  Sharktooth Armor      25
  55  Spider Bow            41
  55  Totemic Mask          41
  56  Ancient Shield        25
  56  Falcata               42
  56  Flying Axe            42
  57  Bramble Mitts         42
  57  Feral Axe             42
  57  Pellet Bow            42
  57  Tyrant Club           42
 
      TC60
  58  Bone Knife            43
  58  Embossed Plate        25
  58  Heater                43
  58  Hyperion Spear        43
  58  Shako                 43
  58  Walking Stick         43
  59  Heavenly Stone        44
  59  Legend Sword          44
  59  Minion Skull          44
  59  Suwayyah              44
  60  Blade Bow             45
  60  Carnage Helm          45
  60  Mage Plate            25
  60  Ogre Axe              45
  60  Wyrmhide Boots        45
 
      TC63
  61  Ataghan               45
  61  Chaos Armor           25
  61  Luna                  45
  61  Matriarchal Spear     45
  61  Small Crescent        45
  61  Spiderweb Sash        46
  62  Blood Spirit          46
  62  Boneweave             47
  62  Mighty Scepter        46
  62  Stygian Pilum         46
  62  Wrist Sword           46
  63  Elegant Blade         47
  63  Hydraskull            47
  63  Reinforced Mace       47
  63  Sacred Targe          47
  63  Shadow Bow            47
  63  Vampirebone Gloves    47
 
      TC66
  64  Colossus Voulge       48
  64  Flying Knife          48
  64  Hyperion              48
  64  Ornate Plate          25
  65  Dusk Shroud           49
  65  Ghost Wand            48
  65  Matriarchal Javelin   48
  65  Silver-edged Axe      48
  66  Fury Visor            49
  66  Highland Blade        49
  66  Overseer Skull        49
  66  Scarabshell Boots     49
  66  Stalagmite            49
  66  Stygian Pike          49
 
      TC69
  67  Eldritch Orb          50
  67  Gorgon Crossbow       50
  67  Hellspawn Skull       50
  67  Wyrmhide              50
  68  Armet                 51
  68  Blade Barrier         51
  68  Great Bow             51
  68  Scarab Husk           51
  68  Vampirefang Belt      51
  68  War Fist              51
  69  Hydra Edge            51
  69  Ogre Maul             51
  69  Sun Spirit            51
  69  Vambraces             51
 
      TC72
  70  Devil Star            52
  70  Ettin Axe             52
  70  Mithril Point         52
  70  Sacred Rondache       52
  70  Tiara                 52
  70  Wire Fleece           53
  71  Balrog Blade          53
  71  Balrog Spear          53
  71  Thresher              53
  72  Boneweave Boots       54
  72  Diamond Bow           54
  72  Diamond Mail          54
  72  Monarch               54
 
      TC75
  73  Battle Cestus         54
  73  Decapitator           54
  73  Destroyer Helm        54
  73  Loricated Mail        55
  73  Phase Blade           54
  74  Demonhead             55
  74  Elder Staff           55
  74  Kurast Shield         55
  74  Mancatcher            55
  75  Colossus Crossbow     56
  75  Demon Heart           56
  75  Great Hauberk         56
  75  Lich Wand             56
  75  Mithril Coil          56
 
      TC78
  76  Balrog Skin           57
  76  Crusader Gauntlets    57
  76  Earth Spirit          57
  76  Scourge               57
  76  Seraph Rod            57
  76  Troll Nest            57
  77  Champion Sword        57
  77  Crusader Bow          57
  77  Winged Knife          57
  78  Conquest Sword        58
  78  Feral Claws           58
  78  Grand Matron Bow      58
  78  Hellforge Plate       59
 
      TC81
  79  Aegis                 59
  79  Cryptic Axe           59
  79  Ghost Glaive          59
  79  Spired Helm           59
  79  War Spike             59
  80  Colossus Sword        60
  80  Conqueror Crown       60
  80  Ward Bow              60
  80  Winged Axe            60
  81  Kraken Shell          61
  81  Matriarchal Pike      60
  81  Mirrored Boots        60
  81  Runic Talons          60
  81  Succubus Skull        60
 
      TC84
  82  Champion Axe          61
  82  Cryptic Sword         61
  82  Lacquered Plate       62
  82  Legendary Mallet      61
  82  Troll Belt            62
  82  Zakarum Shield        61
  83  Fanged Knife          62
  83  Ghost Spear           62
  83  Shillelagh            62
  83  Sky Spirit            62
  84  Archon Plate          63
  84  Bone Visage           63
  84  Demon Crossbow        63
  84  Great Poleaxe         63
  84  Vortex Orb            63
  84  Ward                  63
 
      TC87
  85  Colossus Blade        63
  85  Hydra Bow             63
  85  Shadow Plate          64
  86  Beserker Axe          64
  86  Diadem                64
  86  Ogre Gauntlets        64
  86  Scissors Suwayyah     64
  86  Unearthed Wand        64
  87  Bloodlord Skull       65
  87  Guardian Crown        65
  87  Myrmidon Greaves      65
  87  Thunder Maul          65
  87  Winged Harpoon        65
 
      TC90
  88  Caduceus              66
  88  Glorious Axe          66
  88  Legend Spike          66
  88  Mythical Sword        66
  88  Sacred Armor          66
  89  Archon Staff          66
  89  Colossus Girdle       67
  89  Corona                66
  89  Dimensional Shard     66
  89  Dream Spirit          66
  89  Giant Thresher        66
  89  Vortex Shield         66
  89  War Pike              66

 

[WoRG1]

Thanks @Fruit that was just what I was looking for...and yeah, I missed the last bit of the 1.07 list when I copied it.

As for whether its better to craft in 1.07 or 1.08, I'm pretty firmly of the opinion that if you can craft an item in 1.07, its better to do it there...those blue-only affixes are pretty potent, and can stack up to make very impressive crafts. Weapons, especially, are best crafted in 1.07...prior to 1.10, the most affix %ED you can get out of non blue-only affixes is 200%ED (King's + Merciless), so the fact that 1.07 crafts can get up to 500%ED from affixes (Grandmaster's + Cruel) makes them a clear choice...AND they get 3sox (or maxsox, if less) from Larzuk! (And now that higher ilvl crafts are possible, that combo can appear on weapons other than Giant Threshers, Colossus Blades, and Demon Crossbows!)

On the other hand, there are a LOT more crafting formulae enabled in 1.08, (including the full range of Greater Crafts) and the +FCR isn't bugged at 1% on caster ammys & belts, so there are definitely VERY good reasons for crafting in 1.08 as well... I'm seriously thinking of making a 1.08 crafting guide once I get a chance to do some more research

WoRG

 

[Fruit]

AND they get 3sox (or maxsox, if less) from Larzuk!

Ah.. so this is no longer the case in 1.08? I noticed in the patch notes:

Fixed a bug where quests and Horadric Cube recipes could generate items with too many sockets.

If that refers to crafted weapons getting 3 sockets, well, icing on the cake I guess. Pleased to know that my time playing 1.07 has not been for nothing.

A guide would be awesome! Too bad GalaXyHaXz is not active (atm) to potentially link that guide. I mean, you can play 1.07 for years and still not be aware of a lot of its quirks, because everything is so scattered throughout the 1.07 info thread. If this thread continues to grow over time, it would be nice if it does not end up like that.

 

[WoRG1]

@Fruit I'm not sure what the patch note was referring to as far as cube formulas go... in 1.07 (and 1.08, despite what the note seems to imply), there is a bug where items generated by the cube with a socket affix will NOT get sockets... The only cube formulae that will output socketed items are the three that specify sockets in the output (and those only result in magic longswords or small shields, so...not so useful)

But yeah, in 1.08+ Larzuk will only put one socket in crafts, in 1.07 he puts 3 (or max, whichever is lower, and not just weapons, armor and shields too). That's one reason that its better to craft an item in 1.07, if you can...and also why I REALLY wish 1.07 had ANY helm crafts enabled... crafted helms are usually somewhat lackluster compared to other options, but 3sox would make them MUCH more interesting!!

I hate to keep bugging you for info, but it'd be great if you could find out if 1.08 uses the same affix formula as 1.07... given how they changed the qlvls for so many elite items, they might have changed the affix formula as well... and as long as you're checking that, it would also be nice to know if the formula for #of affixes on a craft is like 1.07 or like later patches.

WoRG

 

[Fruit]

I hate to keep bugging you for info, but it'd be great if you could find out if 1.08 uses the same affix formula as 1.07... given how they changed the qlvls for so many elite items, they might have changed the affix formula as well... and as long as you're checking that, it would also be nice to know if the formula for #of affixes on a craft is like 1.07 or like later patches.

All good! I don't mind, especially if I'm curious myself as well.

I'll take a shot at the entire thing this weekend, but I can already tell you at least one difference. In 1.07 it adds up (clvl*66/100) + (rune_ilvl*66/100) to determine the ilvl of the craft output, which is then capped to 99. In 1.08 however, this cap was raised to 133. I have not looked too much at prefixes & suffixes in either of the patches, but this cap of 99 in 1.07 does restrict the maximum possible alvl, as you can see in the following table from 1.07 (where an ilvl of 99 is assumed):

blvl
   1 99 < Ring & Amulet
   2 98
   3 98 < Leather Boots
   4 97
   5 97
   6 96
   7 96 < Heavy Gloves
   8 95
   9 95
  10 94
  11 94
  12 93 < Bracers & Belt
  13 93
  14 92
  15 92
  16 91
  17 91
  18 90 < Breast Plate
  19 90
  20 89 < Light Plate Boots
  21 89
  22 **
  23 **
  24 87 < Plate Mail
  25 87
  26 86
  27 86
  28 85
  29 85
  30 84
  31 84
  32 83
  33 83
  34 82
  35 82
  36 81
  37 81
  38 80
  39 80
  40 79
  41 79
  42 78
  43 78
  44 77
  45 77
  46 77
  47 78
  48 78
  49 79
  50 79
  51 80
  52 80
  53 81
  54 81
  55 82
  56 82
  57 83
  58 83
  59 84
  60 84
  61 85
  62 85
  63 86
  64 86
  65 87
  66 87
  67 ** < Wyrmhide Boots
  68 ** < Luna
  69 89 < Vampirebone Gloves & Vampirefang Belt
  70 89
  71 90
  72 90 < Vambraces & Mithril Coil
  73 91
  74 91
  75 92 < Great Hauberk
  76 92
  77 93 < Mirrored Boots & Troll Belt
  78 93 < Aegis
  79 94 < Hellforged Plate
  80 94
  81 95 < Kraken Shell

As you can see, if the level of the base is 44, 45, or 46, the craft can only get affixes up to level 77, caused by the cap of 99 on ilvl. But with this new cap of 133 in 1.08, it is possible for every base to get affixes up to level 99. The ilvl of the craft will get reduced to 99 when you save/exit, but since the stats have already been determined, it won't hurt the item.


Edit: The affix formula seems to be the same. The random roll for number of affixes also is still the same; 40% for 1, 20% for the others. Minimum number of affixes is bumped up to 2 at ilvl 31, to 3 at ilvl 51, and to 4 at ilvl 71, so more generous than in 1.07. However, there seem to be some nasty bugs where affixes somehow get merged or deleted, similar to 1.07. I don't really know how that works though, never looked at it.

 

[pharphis]

I noticed that on some 'deadly' crafts in 1.08 that some affixes would be merged... iirc.

I think +def or +def/lvl acted strangely, iirc.

 

[Fruit]

@pharphis Do you happen to know of any more? The "maximum damage based on clvl" seems to delete the +%Damage automod in 1.08. There is also a stat that seems to delete the MDR automod (I think it's actually MDR). GalaXyHaXz mentioned that stat merging was fixed, but either crafts are still bugged all the same, or they had introduced new bugs in 1.08. Regardless, it seems like you will have to get quite lucky not to have any of the automods overwritten by randomly rolled affixes.

Maybe their "fix" was in stead of adding/merging stats (MPK, crazy life leech), the random stat now always overwrites the automod stat. Hopefully I'm wrong, but I'm getting that feeling. It definitely does not look good, hehe.

 

[pharphis]

This was 3 years ago so I don't really remember that well... I think I posted my findings/thoughts on it after having rolled a couple hundred of each deadly craft (except belt... mal runes are impossible to find in 1.07). Probably in the Anything Goes thread? I have all the screenshots somewhere as well, if there's a convenient place I can drop them in bulk. Maybe PM me a dropbox link or something and I can throw some in there if you want.

I found this comment googling,

I read about these a lot a little while ago but thought they weren't active...?

The deadly crafts are, for sure and I posted about it as well. I've got a folder of ~400 test crafts and some conclusions written up wherever I posted them (anything goes lounge?) but frankly the deadly crafts are mostly useless it seems. The class-specific ones are super broken, though. If they were active in 1.08 SP then I'd be amazed they aren't being abused atm but the same could be said about 1.08 (even though they're less useful, I still only found a single example of someone making them in SP through time travel)

I recall making them in aug/sept that year so if someone is better at google searching, they can probably find it

edit:

I just tested the earlier mentioned 'deadly crafts'

They work!

Well, I tested the gloves (since it's the 22nd today) and it worked, whereas the helm and boots did not. I didn't test the belt since I don't have a mal rune.

Incredible!

Attached is the pair of gloves I made.

Probably a couple posts/weeks after this. Pretty sure I put it in this thread, though I don't think I ever uplaoded all the images

edit2: here it is

As mentioned in the streaming thread, I rolled ~100 of 3/4 deadly crafts (not the belt because no mal rune) just to test it out.

It looks as though the best possible things for each, respectively, are:

gloves: 20 ias,skill tree, triple res...?
boots: 10 fhr, 30 frw, 40% dual res
helm: 99% AR + 5% AR + crap... honestly, total garbage other than the potential AR.

Now, I have screenshots for all ~300 things I made and plan to throw them in a dropbox or something for people to look at. Maybe someone can find something more useful than I did.

You'll notice that the recipe allegedly gives +5-15% ED. This isn't exactly true. I think it gives + (5 - 15) defense and this mod disappears (does not stack like some bugged recipes in 1.07) when other defense mods are present (ED% or def/level).

Here are some readouts I saved for the gloves while trying to document the bugged/disappearing mod:

Spoiler

Viper Hand
Sharkskin Gloves
Defense: 52
Durability: 10 of 14
Required Strength: 20
Required Level: 51
Item Version: Expansion
Item Level: 62
Fingerprint: 0x7e6b877e
+28% Enhanced Defense
Lightning Resist +10%
Poison Resist +7%
8% Chance of Crushing Blow
2% Deadly Strike

Loath Clutches
Sharkskin Gloves
Defense: 75
Durability: 12 of 14
Required Strength: 20
Required Level: 84
Item Version: Expansion
Item Level: 62
Fingerprint: 0x4f29d307
+84% Enhanced Defense
3% Life stolen per hit
23% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items
4% Chance of Crushing Blow
8% Deadly Strike

Eagle Knuckle
Sharkskin Gloves
Defense: 40
Durability: 10 of 14
Required Strength: 20
Required Level: 71
Item Version: Expansion
Item Level: 62
Fingerprint: 0x42fbc3aa
+9 to Maximum Stamina
+13 to Attack Rating
+7 Defense
Poison Length Reduced by 25%
4% Chance of Crushing Blow
7% Deadly Strike
14% Chance to cast Level 5 Nova when struck

Corpse Claw
Sharkskin Gloves
Defense: 83
Durability: 13 of 14
Required Strength: 20
Required Level: **
Item Version: Expansion
Item Level: 62
Fingerprint: 0xfdc97e2
Adds 1-3 fire damage
3% Mana stolen per hit
Poison Length Reduced by 25%
9% Chance of Crushing Blow
5% Deadly Strike
+47 to Defense (0.5 per Character Level)

Attached are also just a few pictures of "notable" crafts. All gloves were made with a lvl 94 sorc, all base items were gambled with said sorc. The boots and helm were made with my 99 barb.

 

[Fruit]

Thanks pharphis! It does look like if an affix from the same affix group spawns, then it will simply overwrite the automod. This would also explain why stats like Deadly Strike and Crushing Blow never get erased or merged, because they're probably not in any group. I saw some "-1" values being evaluated while going through the function, perhaps that stats that are not in magicprefix.txt or magicsuffix.txt are in "group" -1, and thus the check is skipped if an affix from that group is already on the item.

WoRG had already convinced me that 1.07 is superior for (most) crafts, but if the above is the case, it cripples 1.08 crafts even further, especially weapons. In my short testing, the +40-80% Damage automod was simply removed if another damage affix spawned. Not much point in crafting a weapon if the best automod gets deleted by the most desired affixes.

I do wonder now if we're still unaware of some merges in 1.07. Maybe besides life leech and MPK there are other crazy stats we could get. @WoRG had some 1.07 crafts where the "cast when struck" was merged with "cast on striking" or something, so who knows what else is possible.

@pharphis I'd still like to take a look at those screenshots if possible. I don't have a dropbox account though, would it be the easiest if I just made one? Otherwise, I don't have a preference where you'd upload them.

 

[WoRG1]

Oh man, if it always overwrites the automods instead of stacking in 1.08, that kills the chance for 20+FCR ammys, which is the thing I was most excited about in 1.08 crafting...

I can definitely confirm that 1.08 hitpower crafts lose the CtC Frost Nova if they get another CtC affix, whereas in 1.07 it would only change the automod's 'when struck' to 'on attack' or 'on striking'

Spoiler

Eagle Brow
Full Helm
Defense: 31
Durability: 19 of 30
Required Strength: 41
Required Level: 38
Item Version: Expansion
Item Level: 65
Fingerprint: 0x5eb3924d
+2 to Energy
+15% Enhanced Defense
Attacker Takes Damage of 5
Knockback
14% Chance to cast Level 5 Charged Bolt when struck

Glyph Brow
Full Helm
Defense: 40
Durability: 23 of 30
Required Strength: 41
Required Level: 47
Item Version: Expansion
Item Level: 65
Fingerprint: 0x11d4c1f9
+49% Enhanced Defense
Lightning Resist +18%
Attacker Takes Damage of 9
Knockback
14% Chance to cast Level 5 Nova when struck

Spirit Shell
Giant Conch
Defense: 136
Durability: 17 of 30
Required Strength: 142
Required Level: 45
Item Version: Expansion
Item Level: 65
Fingerprint: 0x68af62d6
+15 to Life
Lightning Resist +30%
Attacker Takes Damage of 13
Knockback
10% Chance to cast Level 3 Nova when struck

I also recall when crafting safety rings, occasionally the PDR or MDR would 'glitch' and be lower than the bottom end of the range...guess it was just being overwritten by the little PDR/MDR affixes that rings often get...

I wonder if all automods get overwritten, or only some...

WoRG

Edit: added readouts

 

[pharphis]

Can't find the screenshots atm.. probably on my old laptop.

 

[Fruit]

@WoRG Just a test craft that I can't keep, but:

So it looks like it does not work as simply as I thought.

I think that GalaXyHaXz once mentioned that the function in 1.07 merges the automod stats as if they're from pre-LoD groups, with the randomly rolled stats as if they're from LoD goups. If that's true, it would explain FCR, because in pre-LoD versions the cast speed suffixes were in group 8, while in 1.08 they're in group 9.

It would definitely be nice to be able to understand/predict which stats can potentially merge or be overwritten, then a list can be made with which recipes or stats are subject to merging or/and deletion. I was hesitant(lazy) to do it because that part of the function seemed pretty bulky, but I should probably just check it out so I can stop guessing.

But yeah, there seems hope for 1.08 crafts! The caster Amulet & Belt are most likely worth it, and I guess the deadly crafts as well. And then there are the ring/amulet +resist recipes that can roll Set / Unique, also not too shabby.