Forum Mafia - The Dark Tower Game Thread

So you want to let us know you aren't claiming any role which could resurrect someone who flipped scum? Good to know.



Reviver Such a role has been used on these forums (the snozberries taste like snozberries!). Several flavors of both town and mafia alignment.



Yeah, that was the general gist. I quoted it in 495.
Ok.

When I asked that question I wanted to provide more discussion. The idea was totally new to me (as I said, I didn't read it the way they did) and was wondering if I was in the majority or minority.

I would suspect that if a neutral group's member is killed then those who publicly stated they doubted existence of a neutral group would be more likely to be in a neutral group.
 
1. Didn't read Drixx's post correctly
2. Mostly feeling-based

Seriously?
1. Yes. Just read it again. It didn't say it has a bonus for town or mafia. Just a bonus. I thought it was a bonus for town so I didn't read it correctly

2. Yes. That's how I am. If there are two people I have to chose between and I can't see any logical reason to choose one before the other, I will let my feeling decide. Like if I had to choose between you and kestegs right now, I would vote for you. I am not convinced by your arguments for him being scum while I still feel that you could be scum. That can change til nightfall of course.
 
For what it's worth, some of the recent posts are why I decided not to put a spotlight on the person who got the task during twilight. There appears to be some disagreement about which factions might want to or not want to get an extra bonus for all factions and it seemed unnecessary to put a spotlight on the person(s) who solved it. What was important was whether anyone would dissect the opening story and follow the correct path.

Fair enough.

Hey, don't make fun of my feels.

dem_feels

1. Yes. Just read it again. It didn't say it has a bonus for town or mafia. Just a bonus. I thought it was a bonus for town so I didn't read it correctly

2. Yes. That's how I am. If there are two people I have to chose between and I can't see any logical reason to choose one before the other, I will let my feeling decide. Like if I had to choose between you and kestegs right now, I would vote for you. I am not convinced by your arguments for him being scum while I still feel that you could be scum. That can change til nightfall of course.

I can see how if you can't decide based on what you know you would then go to your feelings. First logical reasoning, second intuitive feelings. Sorry if it seemed I jumped at you, I've already stepped on a few toes this mafia game.
 
A number of people were suspicious of Sath in D1 but noone has voiced anything today.

That has not changed, but he has not done anything else that has made me more suspicious, while others have. Although now that I think about it, he has not really posted anything except for a random vote on me, so he is either lying low or busy.

I don't think he did, just VT iirc.

So why in your initial post did you state both Sath and cdm had unique names? Seems an odd mistake.
 
Hey Drixx, could we get a vote count?

Also, would you be able to put the flips you provide for each lynch/NK next to the names of dead players in the first (second?) post? Maybe I missed it if you keep track of them elsewhere.
 
Do you have any other thoughts, dj? What do you think of Gwaihir so far?
I'm a little uncomfortable that you agree with me on zauper. That guy is giving me the heebie jeebies.
 
Yesterday I think there was somebody who quoted me about me having a point about the franklin and that started the lynchtrain for real. I think that was pharphis, but I'm not sure. Don't think I'm awake enough to go back and find it now, but I will try.
 
There it is! I missed it because I was in the middle of reading posts on my phone then checked comp before actually reading these unread messages!

I think you actually make a very solid point here. I'll willing to change my vote when I'm at my comp.

Lamist ahoy here:
I sent a pm to drixx after I got my alignment asking if I was town ('the white" wasn't clear to me at first). So I really think moar is on to something.

This one is the one I mean.
 
So why in your initial post did you state both Sath and cdm had unique names? Seems an odd mistake.

I don't think I said that in my first post, but in a follow up question by someone. (zauper?)

I just started that they both claimed VT.

I do think that everyone has a unique name though. That's usually the case in games based off of books or other media. I'm sure there's plenty of available names to go around.
 
Vote: Zauper


He seems suspicious because of his questions about why there was no kill (rolefishing, anyone?)

Can you add:
1) How you think I was rolefishing by giving town some ideas as to how there would be no kill?

As a reminder, mafia would know why there was no kill.

2) Who else you're suspicious of, and why?

You've made a total of 5 posts so far, none longer than two sentences, and only two with any (limited) content.
 
Two? I only remember one.

Do you think that all townies have roles? Or just that they all have unique names? What about mafia? Why do you think this?

Sath and cdm I believe. I think they all have unique names, yes. But in don't think there are any VT. Mafia I didn't say anything about, but I'd wager the same guess for them, although I wouldn't be surprised otherwise as being mafia is sort of not vanilla in itself.

I don't think I said that in my first post, but in a follow up question by someone. (zauper?)

I just started that they both claimed VT.

I do think that everyone has a unique name though. That's usually the case in games based off of books or other media. I'm sure there's plenty of available names to go around.

Damn, thought I saw something.

I see now. You were answering Zauper's third question, not commenting on the fact that Sath and cdm had both claimed a name.

Although this leads me to another point I need to look into.
 
Unvote: Gwaihir
Vote: Zauper


Way too defensive and stating that mafia know why there was no kill is only something the mafia can know, hmm. Besides being all together wrong.
 
Gwaihir seems town again to me.

The other person I'm suspicious of is Philli because of his Bad Ash- kestegs connection (which I still don't see)

Sath basically just said all my suspicions of you.
 
Been silenced for the past 24 hours. I don't know if I have the time to go through and respond to everything that I want to, but I'll try. I'm working on this post before the timer is up, so please excuse the mega-post. Usually I'd break these up into easier to read bite sized chunks.

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woohooo! (also wut)

Is this the part where we believe CG from now on?

Seven minutes after the opening post. Long enough to process the news and try to capitalize on a bad situation?

Congratulating town on a favourable situation (think "Good save, doctor!"), but also adding in a bit of confused flavour while inviting someone else to possibly explain what happened. Who wants most to know what happened? That's right, mafia.

Second sentence is attempting to gauge town's reaction to another player before committing himself.

This post is all kinds of scummy, but in very subtle ways. Intentionally so? Hard to say quite yet.


There are other people also looking for the kill explanation. Phillinicus, Zauper, kestegs.

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Good call! Who else would you say tops your scum list? And let’s turn the question onto you, who would you hypothetically kill right now if you had a day vig shot?

Place holder to remember to answer this question at the end of my post.


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This sentence makes me suspicious of you. 'I know my alignment', rather than 'I know I'm town'. It just seems like an awkward way of saying you're town, unless you're claiming to be a beneficial neutral, which would also be an odd claim at this stage.

It just seems like a weird sentence to me.

I don't agree with this. If kestegs were scum, I think he'd be more likely to use the word town in his post than not. This sort of thing came up last game, where someone claimed 'Vanilla' but not 'Vanilla Town', and there was question if the omission was a slip or not. It was a bad argument then, and it's bad argument now. (*Wave @ Drixx*)

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Only a bit, compared to a couple of the other times I've been under more pressure. Oddly, I feel pretty secure in my vanilla-ness. As pointed out by Scumstegs, now his group wont kill me at night and if I'm lynched, vindication.

vote: kestegs

Why did you choose to vote now instead of back in your opening post (#387)? You mention kestegs is still on your scum list but don't back it up with a vote. Phillinicus lays out a case, votes kestegs, and only then your vote comes in. Why the delay?

Yesterday your vote ended on Sathoris. Has he dropped off your scum radar now?

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For the record I am not seeing the ba kestegs connection. It feels almost like a qt planned train - doesn't help that phili and cdm are both on my suspect list

This just about sums up my feelings on the BA/Kestegs thing. It feels very forced, like someone trying to jam foul tasting medicine down my throat.

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I've played forum mafia and live mafia before. You're probably thinking about someone else Drixx recruited. I've never played here before, I played on a different website with some friends for a year or so.

Can you estimate the number of times you've played/won as Town? Scum? Neutral?

This question applies to the other newcomers of our forum as well.


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Oooh, timer is up! I can start splitting these posts up now.
 
Vote: Gwaihir

Busy now, more tomorrow. Not seeing this supposed link Phil has spammed himself in seeing together with kestegs many responses

Unvote: Gwaihir
Vote: Zauper


Way too defensive and stating that mafia know why there was no kill is only something the mafia can know, hmm. Besides being all together wrong.


After that first post I expected more than that. Why did you vote Gwaihir earlier?
 
I'm gonna do a vote update sometime this evening (mostly down to when my wife decides to call it quits with SW:ToR).

I must comment, and this is just an overall impression not sparked by any one (or recent) post... things are so much more entertaining and interesting when you know all the moving pieces and you watch people work through them. This mod gig is "the tits" as they might say in some parts of the world :)
 
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