WOW, Gory. Wow...
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- Thread starter pharphis
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I just want to make it clear to everyone that at this exact moment right now... I don't know what the eff to think.
I don't buy it. You were throwing around accusations indiscriminantly based on no specific evidence that you've bothered to divulge. Townies don't do that. Scum does.
Phillinnicus
New member
I'm not sure how to react to Goryani's kill. At first I thought it was a joke, but now I'm just confused.
Goryani, care to explain why you picked Sathoris?
Goryani, care to explain why you picked Sathoris?
I'm thoroughly confused.... If Gory killed Sathoris, who said Solar was town, does it mean Solar was actually mafia and that Fred is indeed town? My whole theory of Pyro being scum is based on whether or not Solar is scum, so if he isn't, then I got nothing (I'll leave the vote because I just don't have anywhere else to put it right now). Also, I'm just going to claim and stop whoever is actually mafia to try making me a smoke screen to confuse the rest: My role name is Shen, and I'm a vanilla townie.
I'm off to bed. Till tomorrow.
I'm off to bed. Till tomorrow.
Jason Maher
Active member
We don't get Sath's role for a day kill?
It has been broken for me since the last game.
Why did you not say the bomb part yesterday - why wait for everyone else to come forward with proof, possibly allowing an additional 2 power roles to out themselves before you claim this? And now to remove the usefulness of your role completely. Can you explain this?
Also, why would mafia kill a townie FOE after yesterday?If he is town, he is probably telling the truth about his role. He would take out 2 townies when lynched. Also even if he is mason but not bomb, they make us spend another day trying to get him lynched.
...Wow. That was rather unexpected.
Jason, I asked this yesterday, but was wondering what exactly you could tell us about the quote you got from N2. Can you give us the exact quote, or if not describe what exactly was said?
As for voting, I still like FOE, and if not him Val. But I would like to see exactly what Jason, Drixx and Gory have to say before voting.
Gory apparently had the power to simply decide at some point to kill someone, and did so. No idea whether this should be considered a town, anti-town or neutral role. The decision was unilateral and was a poor one for the town. It has zero impact on whether Sathoris or FoE have been truthful or not with their posts.
forgive me, but I call absolute BS on this. It has a lot of impact on who each person was/is or if one of them was lying.
And apparently, Gory thought Sathy-boy was lying.
Gory was wrong. Period.
Goryani choosing to use an ability to unilaterally kill someone instantly has no bearing on whether what those people said was true or untrue. Their statements were either true or not. If Gory is meant to be a townie player, it was a bad misplay.
Phillinnicus
New member
How do you know that Goryani is undoubtedly wrong? Do you have information about him or Sath? Or did I miss something earlier?
I don't think it was a good idea to kill Sath, unless Goryani knew what he was doing. Still, it's of no use to us because we don't know if what Sath claimed about his role is entirely true, and now we have no evidence to prove so. And Sath wasn't at the top of my scum list; I was only a little suspicious of him. Hopefully Goryani can provide some information.
I don't think it was a good idea to kill Sath, unless Goryani knew what he was doing. Still, it's of no use to us because we don't know if what Sath claimed about his role is entirely true, and now we have no evidence to prove so. And Sath wasn't at the top of my scum list; I was only a little suspicious of him. Hopefully Goryani can provide some information.
Jason Maher
Active member
I'm not allowed to directly quote a PM, as you well know. I'm not paraphrasing it all for a second time. There was one more sentence about Moar skimming the thread on the bus, which matched up with something she posted in the thread, hence how I was able to identify the speaker.
Jason Maher
Active member
I note gory has gone quiet after his little pot-shot, which I don't like at all, given how voical he was until then.
So gory, out with it. Why the hell did you do that? If you're claiming that you knew Sath was lying, then how the hell did you know? And did the host reveal the role to you? If so, what is it? You'd better start explaining your actions, or you're straight to the top of my suspects list.
So gory, out with it. Why the hell did you do that? If you're claiming that you knew Sath was lying, then how the hell did you know? And did the host reveal the role to you? If so, what is it? You'd better start explaining your actions, or you're straight to the top of my suspects list.
The absolute best assumption to be made about Gory is that the move was made impulsively. Gory agreed to let me wait until I heard back from the game mod to more fully explain why I said Sath was being honest. Why that didn't happen ... I'd like to know just as much as you. And meanwhile the wallflowers keep on getting away with being silent.
A couple have asked why. The short answer: I didn't believe a word Sathoris said.
To start with, the usually aggressive Sathoris (townie Sathoris) was missing this game. He completely avoided my questions, which is something he's done as scum before.
Look at the claims of FoE and Sathoris. They are nearly identical. Two person mason teams. Ability to kill at night. More on this later.
The only thing Sathoris needs to pull off that claim is the name of someone killed at night. Mafia and SK have access to such names just as easily as a vigilante. Since I was an X-shot vigilante, I severely doubted another one.
I asked Sathoris if one of his mason texts were seen by Jason in case it could prove Sathoris' claim. I was completely ignored.
I could have used my power at night. I assume any actual vigilante could. Sathoris did not. Why? It's a hallmark of someone looking to off a power role and/or steal a name to claim.
Look at the reasons players gave for voting FoE the first time and again today. Some players "just knew." Several players. Much more than the one mason partner Sathoris claimed. They congratulated FoE on such a well crafted claim but alas, they knew the truth. Funny how so many players seem to have the same mindset. The best SK hunters are usually mafia. I saw in Sathoris and those others a "hunt the SK" mindset. That many gut feelings suddenly happening at once? Haven't seen it before (and be right) except on mafia vs mafia action. See the Cheers game. I think we're dealing with multiple mafia. I aimed at one.
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Yes, I received Sathoris' flip.
To start with, the usually aggressive Sathoris (townie Sathoris) was missing this game. He completely avoided my questions, which is something he's done as scum before.
Look at the claims of FoE and Sathoris. They are nearly identical. Two person mason teams. Ability to kill at night. More on this later.
The only thing Sathoris needs to pull off that claim is the name of someone killed at night. Mafia and SK have access to such names just as easily as a vigilante. Since I was an X-shot vigilante, I severely doubted another one.
I asked Sathoris if one of his mason texts were seen by Jason in case it could prove Sathoris' claim. I was completely ignored.
I could have used my power at night. I assume any actual vigilante could. Sathoris did not. Why? It's a hallmark of someone looking to off a power role and/or steal a name to claim.
Look at the reasons players gave for voting FoE the first time and again today. Some players "just knew." Several players. Much more than the one mason partner Sathoris claimed. They congratulated FoE on such a well crafted claim but alas, they knew the truth. Funny how so many players seem to have the same mindset. The best SK hunters are usually mafia. I saw in Sathoris and those others a "hunt the SK" mindset. That many gut feelings suddenly happening at once? Haven't seen it before (and be right) except on mafia vs mafia action. See the Cheers game. I think we're dealing with multiple mafia. I aimed at one.
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Yes, I received Sathoris' flip.
Jason Maher
Active member
Well one of gory and Drixx is lying. Only one way to find out which one.
Unvote: FoE
Vote: Goryani
Unvote: FoE
Vote: Goryani
Pyrotechnician1
New member
This, this times x1000%. Anyone find it funny fred has yet to post since the beginning of the day?
Tend to believe Fred's claim...interesting...
Wow, since we are using exploitives in the thread now (Jason started it) I have to say this play is complete bull****, fing bull****. You're play this game has been absolutely terrible and I think your ultimate goal of doing this was to try and draw out Sath's mason partners since by killing him it would try and force them out of hiding to support his claim. Knowing sath and his posts, the line you quoted reaks of sarcasm and your action was premature. This only reinforces my belief in Sath's claim, so with that being said, I highly doubt there are two town one shot vigs and believe you are a mafia one shot vig. After Fred is lynched, you should be the next to go.
Since when is a day vig kill instant and since when does it not reveal role flips?
Your whole theory, which amazingly was never posted, and an early claim of vanilla townie! Amazing, almost like your early claim in that game you were the SK, coincidence? I think not.
This.
And I'll throw in a TC favorite. My scum list:
FoE (guaranteed)
Gory
Val
With Leo coming in as a close 4th.
