What are your reasons for wanting to lynch Ankeli?
Gods of Ancient Greece. Forum mafia game.
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What are your reasons for wanting to lynch Ankeli?
I generally don't believe people NK because of vendettas.
That said I was interested to see what happened if I called out the previous mafia team as having a vendetta against Gwaihir for last game. You and Pyro responded in the way I expected most people would at the suggestion of a vendetta kill (Joke about it the way we generally do in the pregame thread).
Goryani on the other hand was quick to lay a vote down on me in response to the suggestion that someone in the previous team may have had a vendetta. To me it seemed defensive. On the other hand Goryani does enjoy voting for me D1 (he did so last game as well), maybe he has a Vendetta! against me
So you were merely providing "the facts" in post 35?
Caluin Graye
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Vendetta!
Its rather interesting to me that you decided to chime in on that particular course of discussion. Ever heard of the term "Hiding in plain sight"?
I think you just might have.
Vote: pharphis
korialstraz
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Nope. Just letting you know my schedule. We're trying out a new way of handling cases that are sent to us, and I volunteered for first shift, which is today from 8 am to 12 am. Then I have to go and grab the names of some servers and various hardware stuff and prepare that for a meeting from 12 am to 13 am. Afterwards I have 3 laptops I have to start preparing. In other words if things go as I think they will, I won't be around much until closer to 17 pm. In fact I shouldn't be here typing this right now, but posting from my phone on the way to work is... well a PITA (imo).
You know Ankeli, I didn't get back at you for getting me lynched in that SG game.
That was a joke btw, just so people don't start making assumptions. I don't really hold grudges. Hell I've never tried getting back at Leo either for blowing me up in the Futurama game. >_>I don't see what you mean, but yes, I've heard the term before.
also, there was a Futurama game? Damnnnnn
why the inverted comma's? I provided a run down on what happened in that game. I was interested to see what the reaction of the people I called out would be. So far Ankelli ignored it, Pyro said he only has time for one vendetta and if anything he holds a vendetta against me for getting him lynched (post 40) and Pharphis claimed he obviously killed Gwaihir (post 44).
You on the other hand seem to be defensive about it. Any particular reason why? Too close to the truth?
LIPSing is so much more fun to say.
13 am ?
Worst post restriction evah!
Because I don't believe your intended response in post 35 was to provide facts. Ergo, your response to me in #79 is hogwash. I think you're caught and trying to squirm.
Post 35: You wondered why Laarz went straight to the Vendetta explanation. He didn't by the way: vendetta was the second thing listed. In the same post, you disagree with Laarz on a vendetta yet you provide your own vendetta scenario. Forget same post. It was in the same sentence! But what I noticed most was this gem: "although you could say that..."
You're were trying to put yourself into a win/win situation. You get brownie points for disagreeing with the vendetta yet you also get brownie points for continuing (or contributing to) the discussion. Later posts also indicate you are trying to put yourself into a win/win situation. Replying to me, you say you were providing a run down of the previous game. Replying to pharphis, you say you were scumhunting. In that same post you drop the line how I, as mafia, voted for you on D1 last game. You're trying to curry favor with pharphis while simultaneously trying to blunt my accusations without directly addressing my accusations.
I thought you were implying that they weren't the facts. Like I said I was interested to see peoples reaction to the poke.
You do like to nitpick gory. I said first thing as it was his first post of the day. Interesting that you attack me over calling it first thing when it was on the first line of his post, but then you are allowed to counter with me talking about two things within the same sentence.
Out of interest if I had said this instead.
"I don't think there is a vendetta, generally my belief is the people don't act on vendetta's it is just something fun we talk about during the game. If you want to know what happened last game Gwaihir was the deciding vote that secured the lynch for the last scum (pharphis), had he voted wrongly the scum would have won. The scum team for last game was Goryani, Ankelli, Pharphis and Pyro."
Would your response have been any different? If so, why? It is essentially the same, just phrased better. English is not my strong suit and the previous post took me all of a minute to put together. That one I just wrote took 5 to 10 minutes.
I did directly address your accusations. Your accusation was:
My response was not long (post 79).
You claim I was attempting to put myself in a win/win situation, I was. I wanted to state what I thought (which is vendettas are a load of rubbish that is fun for pre-game talk) and continue the discussion to see other peoples reaction. My post to you and my post to pharhpis was the same, I was putting a comment out there to see what response it got. I got a bite from you. I didn't explain it as well in my post to you, so I explained what I meant better to pharphis.
I should not have put the bit about you voting for me last game as scum. I intended it as a joke and it was partly due to the frustration that everyone in the dead thread thought I was scum last game, when I thought I had done a good job of scum hunting. One thing I've noticed (partly thanks to you gory) is that I am scared to commit. I often point out things and wait until other people act on them out of fear of being attacked.I think it was at it's most obvious when I saw the inconsistency in Ankelli's story vs. TC's coroner results. I posted the inconsistency and should have sealed it with a vote. Instead I waited until other people voted as I was scared to vote for a claimed cop. You called me on that last game as well (I don't care about you being mafia - you were right it is / looks scummy) and it is something I need to work on.
korialstraz
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Meant 1 pm ofc. Early in the morning, blah blah blah. The usual mistake from someone who hasn't grown up with using am/pm system.
Caught up on reading in a 5 min break. Back to work...
ThunderCat
Active member
Them norse folk have 25 hour days.
The two things Laarz mentioned were not contradictory. Neither were they not non-contradictory. I read them as two separate statements/thoughts/hypotheticals. They may overlap. They may not.
The two things you mentioned in the same sentence were contradictory. First you said you didn't think there was a specific vendetta from last game then you outlined a (possible) specific vendetta from last game.
I imagine my response would be different. I can't say how different (referring to whether or not I vote or interrogate). The why is easy though.
That response doesn't appear to have anything to do with Laarz, whom you quoted. The only part specific to this game is "I don't think there is a vendetta." You justify it, but again, the justification is a general belief rather than anything about any of the players you mentioned.
That type of post is commonly referred to as an Information Instead Of Analysis post. It's generally considered a scum tell. The speaker is upping the post count and appears to be interacting with players, yet isn't. Lurking in plain sight.
Same destination through a different route: that post would earn scumpoints from me. Probably more than your original post. FYI, I have far fewer problems with your original post than with the "I was supplying information" response I received back.
Again, I can't help but notice how the revised version ignores Laarz. Everytime I make a "Interesting that you....." type of statement, I'm genuinely interested in a response. Did you want a response from Laarz?
I was referring to post 84 rather than post 74 but I concede the point anyway. I shouldn't have used the term accusations. I asked questions but didn't state an accusation (other than a vote) until the very post in which I accused you of avoiding my accusations. The accusations in my head were left unsaid. I should have said interrogations or something similar.
This is delving into offtopicness a little...
Why me? I feel I'm far more tolerant of mistakes than non-committers/ambivolence/LIPSing. I can't help but notice my arguments against you last game were of the same vein.
Days? I thought they had no sun up there.
korialstraz
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Only during the winter. Then we have 25 hour nights. We live in the extreme. >_>
Anyway the meeting was cancelled, so I'll get some other work related stuff out of the way, and see if I can come back and read a bit more careful.
FredOfErik
New member
Still no reason behind that, eh? I know this is how you (often) play, but I disagree with it being helpful to town (in most cases). I sincerely hope you have another response than "rabble, rabble, to see how people react".
wut?
First, I was agreeing with this being some pretty random nitpicking (which is to some degree expexted on D1) and had no suspicion of Jcakes whatsoever. Then I read the following..
First of all, I do not believe this was your original intention - I believe you were trying to direct suspicion against Gory, masking it as a semi-joke to create a defense for the case that somebody would call you out on it. Second of all, this can be said about every damn post that gets even a mildly negative respond on D1.
And what is up with this semi brown-nosing of Gory, sudden hindsight and excuses about flaws about you as a mafia player?
If you're initial comments about vendettas had been as innocent as they seemed to me, I do not believe you would make such a big fuss about it. After all, it was a joke, right?
Vote: Jcakes
