Zombie invasion Mafia game.

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Are Ankeli and Noodle the two prime lynch suspects simply because they have the most votes or is it another reason? If I say someone is a prime suspect, you can bet I consider them scummy. I'm just inquiring about your phrasing here.

Is there anyone in particular you would rather see lynched if the town could swing the votes?

To be fair it's based on the votes as they stand, I'm not sure I believe either are Mafia, Ankeli with his poorly "veiled" claim and Noodle pointing it out.

I think most people had probably spoted it before Noodle pointed it out, and he is experienced enough to keep it under his hat and night kill him if he was guilty.

Val I feel may be town, difficult to tell so early in the game.

Feysal has been suprisingly quiet, a little out of character possibly?


 
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Oh and I didn't call them suspects , please reread the quote you used.

Don't put words in peoples mouths- put pie in peoples mouths!!!
 
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I'm mostly voting for Noodle to get a lynch train going. Lynching is statistically always in the best interest of the town, even if we lynch a townie. I would much rather lynch Sathoris or Ankeli right now, as I suspect one or the other the most right now. But Feysal's noncommittal comments recently have me wondering why he isn't contributing more.

If noodle is mafia, it speaks VOLUMES about other people. If he's a townie, Ankeli doesn't look nearly as scummy as he would, and may also give other information based on his dealings with others.
 
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Uhh, get voting. I'm going to do this whether I like it or not, but we need a lynch. And you sort of screwed me over. :P

Unvote: I_Told_You
Vote: Noodle


Let it be noted that I'd rather not have voted for him, for better or for worse.
 
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No matter how much you elbow him in the ribs, Feysal will probably not vote for Noodle because the Doctor claim has been mentioned. A no lynch is better than a mislynch, isn't that right old buddy?
 
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I don't see any reason for Noodle to be getting hog-hammered. Yes, I just made that word up because I'm groggy and eating bbq for lunch. Someone please point out what he posted that lit up the red flags. I've gone through his posts and don't see it.

There's very little of use out there right now. Goryani threw out a slip-up, but people are afraid he's the VI. I personally laugh at VI "wins" and completely discount them so I'm not at all afraid of lynching a potential VI. All that matters is town vs mafia in my book.

Therefore - Vote: Goryani
 
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I don't see any reason for Noodle to be getting hog-hammered. Yes, I just made that word up because I'm groggy and eating bbq for lunch. Someone please point out what he posted that lit up the red flags. I've gone through his posts and don't see it.

There's very little of use out there right now. Goryani threw out a slip-up, but people are afraid he's the VI. I personally laugh at VI "wins" and completely discount them so I'm not at all afraid of lynching a potential VI. All that matters is town vs mafia in my book.

Therefore - Vote: Goryani

The only one who mentioned Goryani as VI is leo and frankly I find that absurd. I'd rather lynch Goryani before Noodle as well, but given the timeframe it's nigh impossible.


 
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The reason to lynch noodle has very little to do with whether we think him guilty or innocent. Rather, his death will bring information to the twon that we can use. What he has posted is colored by his alignment, and we can use that information to either validate other town roles or finger mafia.

Please, a no lynch on the first day is ALWAYS bad for town, especially with a successful NK on night 1.
 
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No matter how much you elbow him in the ribs, Feysal will probably not vote for Noodle because the Doctor claim has been mentioned. A no lynch is better than a mislynch, isn't that right old buddy?

And especially if the mislynched player has a power role. Yes, I have said that. However, in this case it was not Noodle who mentioned the Hippocrates Oath, he pointed out when another referred to it.

Besides, as I've been reading through the posts, I'm getting the feeling that Noodle sort of got caught tunneling. Ever since he pointed out that comment, what else has he talked about? I still have a couple pages to read so I may have missed something, but I've seen several posts from Noodle talking about Hippocrates and little else. Gives me the idea that someone was caught with their hand in the cookie jar and is trying to explain it away.

I'm unsure about Ankeli. If there was more time I'd probably prefer a wagon on him, but Noodle is fine. I certainly don't have a strong town read getting in the way of my vote today.

Vote: Noodle

Posting this now since the day is about to end, I have more to say but will make another post.



 
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The reason to lynch noodle has very little to do with whether we think him guilty or innocent. Rather, his death will bring information to the twon that we can use. What he has posted is colored by his alignment, and we can use that information to either validate other town roles or finger mafia.

Please, a no lynch on the first day is ALWAYS bad for town, especially with a successful NK on night 1.

I understand the importance of lynching for information, but you seem overly pushy. No lynch on Day 1? Most of recent games have been like that.

But day is ending and nothing else will probably happen so let's see if we can yield some information for tomorrow.

Vote: Noodle

Did I spell that right? :crazyeyes:



 
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FYI, before night falls, If noodle is mafia I would take a HUGE Look at ankeli as being mafia as well. If ankeli is mafia look to Laarz as also being mafia. Ankeli tried fingering him along with Gorny and another person way back in the opening pages, with no real reason to do so other than to distance himself from Laarz. This coupled with Laarz currently lurking the thread and not voting, gives me high suspicion. this is all just my random thoughts in case I should die to the zombie hordes tonight.
 
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Okay, I've read through several pages worth of discussion about roles, mostly based on the flash game as far as I can tell. Maybe there are actual power roles among there who actually know how those roles work in this game. I've got my own ideas, but most of those are no more than informed guesses, and since there is no time for it anyway I won't go into them now.

Anyway, it could be useful to focus on what we know for a fact instead of speculating on the unknowable. One thing that occurred to me during the read was about the items. Based on the rules, it seems they don't need to be scavenged, invented or built by any town role. They come directly from the mod, as gifts. Even more importantly, they can only be received by town, and they can be passed to another random town member. That is significant. A very useful purpose for items could simply be confirming other townies, kind of like this:

Player-A: I got an item last night! I'm giving it to someone else tonight, and not telling what it is.
Night passes...
Player-B: I got the item! It was a banana.
Player-A: Yes, yes it was a banana. I confirm that Player-B is town.
Player-B (and the rest of the town): Yay!

I'd like to see this happen at some point.
 
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What do you mean by tunneling? You think Noodle planted a potential clue for a false Doc claim down the road?
 
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I've not been playing the recent games (obviously, lol) so I don't know the trend. I just know about the games I did play, plus the math and theory behind games at mafiascumm.net. I've never seen a day 1 lynch that wasn't beneficial somehow.
 
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Survivors log. Lt. Henry Groover.
Our pie was safe today. The zombies seemed to back out for a bit but I fear they will be back tonight stronger than ever. Our ammo is holding and no one reports anything odd happening inside the town.
At mid day, I tried the radio once more, and after several minutes of distress calling, there is still no reply from other survivors. However, I’m pretty sure there are others out there fending for themselves. We need to find them and bring them here as soon as possible.


No one was lynched today.

Stats night 2
Housing: 4/10
Food: 37 (citizens require 4 food per day)
Morale: 60
Defense: 10
Zombie threat: 13
Citizens: 4 (1 Solider, 1 Scout, 1 Scavenger, 1 Scientist, 0 Civilians)
Buildings: 1 House, 1 Police station
Finalized researches: None
Events:
Combat report: TBA

It is now NIGHTTIME. You may NOT post for the following 24 hours. All those who have night actions, PM me as soon as possible.
 
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I don't have a strong suspect. I rarely do D1. I've made lists of players who fit various scum tell behavior (lurking, inactivity, misdirection, power role fishing, etc). I'm not seeing a name pop up on multiple lists.

A number of players have had votes today:
Gorny
myself
Ankeli
Sathoris
ITY
Noodle
Noammr
Valhauros

Gorny - glad to see him deviate from the randomness we saw in the WoW RPG game and his early play in the Hellsmouthe game.

Ankeli - Sometimes Ankeli is absolutely correct in his suspects, even on D1. On the other hand, sometimes Ankeli is absolutely wrong. Interestingly, the same player was the focus for the right/wrong beliefs and is now the only player deceased: Uraj. Ankeli fingered Uraj all game in Monty Python and Ankeli fingered Uraj the SK all game in the Hellsmouthe game. In my opinion, the strongest argument for Ankeli's lynch is the tie to Uraj so many games, and that isn't a very strong argument.

Sathoris - At this time, I don't think Sathoris is mafia. He is actively scum hunting so even if he is mafia, he will be easier to catch should he continue to hunt townies. I disagree with some of his views, but that doesn't make one scummy.

ITY - He is a little bandwagonny this game, but he often is. I'd like to see comments about players without votes.

Noodle - Anyone saying "Hey doc, don't claim today" while mentioning the doc's name, SHOULD be lynched. It's bad form for a townie to do. It's obviously scummy if mafia does it. I can't imagine why Noodle would do such a thing as mafia. Yet that presents a "wine in front of me" argument because I imagine most would believe the same thing. Performing that action as mafia could be safe simply for the fact that no one would suspect it.

Valhauros - Welcome to mafia. I get the feeling you will get a good initiation this game. I'm content to wait and see how you behave tomorrow.

My Finger of Suspicion is currently pointed at nurman. No pictures. No riddles. He has 5 posts the first day, which is voluminous compared to past games. Yet a number of those posts don't reference the game in any way. His most substantive post is the revelation nurman isn't a vanilla townie. It's the type of post that won't draw mafia attention given everything else that has happened. It's also the type of post mafia could use to hint at a fake claim given how common abilities seem to be this game.

I'd like to vote nurman. If other flip flop to nurman I'd join. But I think it's too late for that. Instead, I'll join the second best choice today.

Vote: Noodle
 
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