Chilling Armor

Having some problems with the video atm, what is it demonstarting? :)

Will switching to Shiver for when you duel melee really help since the only thing frost armours helps vs those is defense, and Shiver doesnt give alot more than Chilling...dont think it will make a difference.
 
The shiver armor in that vid is lvl 42 with the other 2 maxed also. If you want to be very anti melee with a sorc shiver armor/es and no melee will do a thing to you without someother way to hit you. You can also throw on sacarens amulet and have iron maiden if the armor isn't quite enough.
 
That would be a verry defensive build as you dont have enough skills to max any attack. Its pretty awsome though
 
I think this needs to be stickied, or at least Shockin's posts with the video links. I for one never knew that the complete nullification of attacks existed with any of the Cold armors, I always assumed that it was just a defense boost and a small "damage returned" kinda effect when you were hit... wow.
 
So to summarise the whole thread:

You found out that Shiver Armor, with a slvl beyond 40+ is pretty much game over for melee classes.

And that Chilling Armor actually DEFLECTS spells thus making you take ZERO damage from arrows, javelins and such like it. And not sure that you can completely deflect a fireball but you will take LESS DMG with Chilling Armor on.

And if I have gotten it right the deflect skill will improve the more points you have in Chilling, meaning it deflects more often (less time between deflects).

Hope I got it right :)

PS: I agree that this relly needs to be stickied with the videos!
 
ThatWasShocking how does it work with Fireball? can a 20k fireball be deflected to?
 
I'm still not convinced, to say the least...

I only count 7-8 bolts on that CBS. It could just be a low lvl trap that's easily negated with absorb. What was the Sorc wearing in both the "with" and "without" videos? What was the damage on the trap in both the "with" and "without" vidoes?

Regarding the Guided Arrow video, I see no significant difference in the amount of damage she takes between the "with" and "without" segments. The arrows occasionally miss in both, so what exactly are you proving? Guided may be ITD, but it still goes through the chance to hit formula, which depends on clvl. What lvl is the Sorc? What lvl is the Zon?

The last two segments are essentially meaningless. Blade Fury goes through the chance to hit formula, so obviously you're going to take less damage with Chilling Armor activated (higher defense). With Orb, you did the first segment with random casts from relatively far away, then you move up into (nearly) the optimal Orb position for the "without" segment, which is just misleading because it does so much more damage from there.

I'm not cynical just for the sake of disagreement. I just find it hard to believe that the cold armors work like that and nobody has documented it.
 
Guided Arrow has the "always hits" mod, so it's chance to hit is 100%. It can be blocked however.

I think it needs to be tested with a "control" character, one with no gear, low defense that's not boosted much by the Cold armors, and varying prebuffed levels of Cold Armors.
 
This is getting more and more interesting.... I would allso like to see some more test.
 
PhatTrumpet said:
I'm still not convinced, to say the least...

I only count 7-8 bolts on that CBS. It could just be a low lvl trap that's easily negated with absorb. What was the Sorc wearing in both the "with" and "without" videos? What was the damage on the trap in both the "with" and "without" vidoes?

Regarding the Guided Arrow video, I see no significant difference in the amount of damage she takes between the "with" and "without" segments. The arrows occasionally miss in both, so what exactly are you proving? Guided may be ITD, but it still goes through the chance to hit formula, which depends on clvl. What lvl is the Sorc? What lvl is the Zon?

The last two segments are essentially meaningless. Blade Fury goes through the chance to hit formula, so obviously you're going to take less damage with Chilling Armor activated (higher defense). With Orb, you did the first segment with random casts from relatively far away, then you move up into (nearly) the optimal Orb position for the "without" segment, which is just misleading because it does so much more damage from there.

I'm not cynical just for the sake of disagreement. I just find it hard to believe that the cold armors work like that and nobody has documented it.
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The trap lvls in the video are 44, there's 11 bolts from the CBS and the damage is 1-920. The sorc isn't using any absorb, she's using nightwings, maras, fathom, enigma, 4 cold facet shield, frostburn, 2x sojs, string of ears, and tearhaunch boots in all videos. I also shot them in norm.

With orb I was shooting to the side to try and only get a few of the shards to hit so I could take no damage but that didn't work haha. I can reshoot it and I'll try a few fbs and other things I didn't try last time.



 
Eilo Rytyj said:
Guided Arrow has the "always hits" mod, so it's chance to hit is 100%. It can be blocked however.
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Then please explain to me if you would why at the end of the video, when the Zon is shooting GA at the shieldless, no Chilling Armor Sorc, the arrows clearly miss on nearly every shot.

I'm gonna link to this in the Statistics Forum. Hopefully one of the code diggers can put confirm/deny this.



 
PhatTrumpet said:
Then please explain to me if you would why at the end of the video, when the Zon is shooting GA at the shieldless, no Chilling Armor Sorc, the arrows clearly miss on nearly every shot.

I'm gonna link to this in the Statistics Forum. Hopefully one of the code diggers can put confirm/deny this.
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The sorceress actually did have a shield on you just don't see it. GA is always supposed to hit but it doesn't. Here's the new video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdu1dOQ9rcY

I did try my fb sorc on her and the chilling didn't seem to lower the damage or deflect it at all except for when I used hydra.



 
I've had the same experience with Chilling Armor during Baal runs, sometimes missiles would just disappear upon 'hitting' the Chilling Armor, but the retaliate Ice Bolt would still be fired. It was most noticable when confronted with shooting Succubi, quite a few shots would just disappear. This is only emperical evidence though, it's not worth much. On bnet, the story is even worse. You don't often go and try to be hit by missiles, so thanks to desynch you see a missile hit, when in reality it goes past you serverside.
 
Sorry to dig this up! I was reading the new sticky on HC blind-teleport sorc and got interested in Shiver/Chilling armors again. As far as I can tell, this thread contains some very interesting theory, but it died without any confirmation. Melw has made a good summary here, can someone confirm it or prove it wrong?
 
In another thread i pretty much think we all agreed on that it ONLY deflects
arrows. Cant remember if guided arrow were included, but no spells can be deflected and it dossent reduce the damage of spells either.
 
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