Viable builds for ubers?

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Viable builds for ubers?

I'm bored of MFing on my sorc so I thought I'd give ubers a try. I don't want to waste key sets, so I wanted to make a viable build to start with. Is it possible to beat them without expensive gear like infinity? Do I really need to max resistances? Or could I stick to, say, max block + 95% poison resist for lilith?
Since uber bosses have 95% resistances, is blizzard the only way to go without infinity?
 
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See this thread, which is actually still on the first page of these forums.

If you want to do ubers with a sorc, a zealsorc is really the best option. Obviously it will be much more difficult than with a smiter, but so long as you get your resists high enough, get a decent amount of crushing blow, a source of lifetap (draculs), and cannot be frozen, it can be done.

I'm not aware of anybody successfully doing ubers with a pure caster sorc. Zealsorc, or a sorc using revive charges, of course can do it. I definitely wouldn't give any kind of sorc a try vs ubers unless you're already fairly experienced with doing ubers on a more conventional character like a pally/barb/sin, as it will be much more challenging.
 
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I'm going to try this with my Firewall sorc and Barb (for lvl 53 BO) soon enough. Stay tuned for the report! Should be done by the Monday at the latest.
 
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With revive charges, or pure?
I could use Revive vs Meph I suppose, but I must use Harmony bow as I cannot afford Eternity (and it's a waste to make other than for this experiment). So I'd only do 1/4th the dmg, as he has 75% fire res. I guess I'll try it with ES with 3k life and 1k mana (with max Warmth that mana is surprisingly effective). I must teleport around a lot and try to keep the merc alive for a bit as a distraction... It'll probably end ugly, but I'll just rethink my setup if I can't kill him.


 
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Well, I wasn't going for tristram ubers, just lilith duriel and izual for now. How bad are they for a meh gear sorc?
 
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Lilith with a 'meh' geared Sorc? :scratchchin: My friend, you are in for a *toxic** surprise. My advice to you is: 1) Don't do it. 2) Refrain from attempting it. (Now I've done my good deed for the day and can go to sleep with an easy mind. :coffee:)

Edit: to clarify, Lilith is known for shredding uncareful Barbs and Smiters (even with Griefs etc), and is actually as hard or even harder than Uber Mephisto for many chars. Therefore an attempt with a lightly geared sorc is likely to be met with stiff resistance. Lilith does crazy poison damage, and even her physical damage is off the charts from my experience - she killed my barb with 4k life in 3-4 hits if Life Tap didn't trigger.

How's my Sorc gonna survive, then? I'm hoping ES, max poison res and my Barb's BO will do the trick. I also intend to trap her with Bone Prison from Marrowwalk. I'm trying this tomorrow or the day after, so we shall all see soon enough. :jig:


*[Where the f are the cursive tags? Where in the pink balloon horse is the whole text-modifying menu-thingy actually? God I hate the forum upgrade. ... Smilies don't work either. GG upgrade, ppl. :coffee::coffee::coffee::highfive::coffee::coffee::coffee:]
 
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Well, I've tried this now. The mini-ubers were a total pushover; Izual cost me one full rejuv due to carelessness, but that was it. Lilith killed my Merc in one hit, but due to its poison immunity the Bonewall from Marrows lasted for something like 15 seconds against her. I accidentally had my ES staff in use instead of my Facet sword + Phoenix, but still Lilith died in maybe 20 Firewalls. Easiest Lilith kill ever.

The Ubers themselves were a different story, however. Well, I only fought Meph, but still. Without Revives it seems impossible. I didn't have full ES though (only 71%, although I had TK maxed ofc), and had statted all life, so I only had 1k mana and partial ES. If I statted all mana, maybe with good charms it could be done. I doubt it though, and I'm not gonna try it for now. I tried to take the Harmony bow off my Barb's merc and use Revives, but it required 119 dex and I only had 55. -.- I also forgot my Tgods to begin with and burned through all of my purples in one minute. Even when I did put it on, it made precious little difference. Meph spawned minions like crazy and I had no crowd control whatsoever. I could cast one Firewall, which he immediately moved out of, and then I had to panic-tp to safety. :coffee: So, the conlusion for now is that Sorc has no trouble killing mini-ubers, but the big fellas are a different story (at least Meph).

If I find some crazy rare worth 10 HRs, I may just make an Eternity and try this again. Maybe I'll respec and try full ES, too. But then Baal becomes the problem with his manaburn... Dream helm on merc might help against minions, to cast Confuse.

As a final comment, although the Bonewall and Lifetap from Marrows were essential in keeping me and the Merc alive, the repair costs were staggering enough to make Sorc ubering an unsustainable effort even under the best of circumstances; one Lifetap charge costs 14k to repair, and ~8 BW charges cost over 200k. There are always Orts (or was it Rals for armors?), but muling those would get tedious imo. This is a novelty build, and doesn't work even in that capacity atm.
 
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Ok I'm about to attempt it with some good preparations.
Nothing new here, using dualdream+zeal for everything but meph, and maxed fire skills with a different set of gear for mephisto (and revive charges obv) (I want to roll the two into the same build so I don't burn through tons of tokens).

Now, what problems could I expect..
Is it possible to get enough physical damage to efficiently tank baal/diablo with life tap? Looking at max block, no ES, and forty for more damage.
Should I expect to have very low AR without maxed enchant? I'll be getting tons of dex for max block with dream shield.
 
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