Ubers, Minion's, and poison

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Ubers, Minion's, and poison

I'm thinking about building a necro for doing ubers. The build is gonna focus around poison, but i was gonna try to get an army mostly for tanking. I figure skellies are pretty much out of the question. I havn't fought ubers before but i would imagine even maxed skellies/mastery wouldnt last long. I'm wondering how long revives last against ubers, with or with out max mastery and what are the bests revives to get.

Also, a question on poison gear. I've looked around and this is all the +%dmg and -res gear i've found that im planning to get.
Weapon- deaths web -50res
gloves- trangs - +25%dmg
bramble armor- 25-50% dmg
trang shield + belt- -25% res

I wanted to confirm this is all the poison gear aside from facets and +skills. I'm not sure how well trangs shield is gonna fit into the build as far as resists and fast cast. I havnt played a poison necro before but it doesnt seem that FCR will be too important.

Thanks for any advice/comments
 
Re: Ubers, Minion's, and poison

theres a video floating around of a summoner doing uber in under 2 minutes.
i did it in under 2 minutes on my first run ever with a hammerdin as backup.
its very very do-able with skellies. I dont know too much about the poison tree as of yet
 
Re: Ubers, Minion's, and poison

If you plan on doing Ubers, you need one thing. A source of Tele. Either an amulet with tele charges or a staff on switch. If I were making a poison necro for Ubers, I'd look at just spending some points to get a couple points into revives. Enough so you get around 10 or more after +skills. If you want a Golem, a clay golem would probably be the most useful for Ubers, as the slowing effect is really helpful, especially paired with decrepify. You could also look at putting points into Bone Wall/Bone Prison, partly for the synergy for Bone Armour, which would be pretty useful, but also because I am guessing Bone Prison might be a good safety net for ubers.

Now, note, I have a pure summoner myself but if I had a poison necro as I described, what I'd do is go Revive some Urdars for their crushing blow and go to Uber Trist. Pull one of the ubers out, tele onto them to stack your minions and then walk away. Throw up some bone prisons, one around yourself to keep the Uber's minions at bay and spam PN and curses. I'd use Decrep on the uber myself, while using Terror or LR on the minions.

This is all theory, however, and anyone can feel free to tell me that my advice is retarded.
 
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Poison dagger + treachery + trang + crushing blow + LR could work i think. It would probably take a few minutes per uber but it should be possible. I think i'm going to try it out myself :) I'm guessing you could reach some 45-55.000 effective poison damage over roughly 15 seconds. You'd only have to hit once in a while and the rest of the time you could just decreep and terror while the ubers focus on your revives.
 
Re: Ubers, Minion's, and poison

my 2 cents ..........


~ poison nova is koo ....but if you summon mages and they have poison why nova?
~ if you use nova instead of mages i feel ur blockers will be half'd and ubers are more likely to get a hold of the necro
~ poison nova alone is not really gonna kill ubers it just gonna slow there heal down


final two cents ....... if you don't revie monsters w/ crushing blow whick is a ness. you gonna be walking into a a slaughterhouse the ubers are gonna rip through you like no other ......if you got a necro that is thinking of ubering i would do a key to organ run w. half of it up for bosses...if you slide past them w/ lots of ease then uber away....i would just hate to see a torch go down the tolit


ash
 
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now if all the damage from poison nova would be deducted like instant i think it would own ubers but the fact that you have to wait the duration to take full effect slows things down.....in that half time ....skellie horde can pound a second opinion
 
Re: Ubers, Minion's, and poison

thanks for replys. I got my necro up and running. He has about 6k poison nova dmg and -78% res + LR. He does pretty well against the organ givers except Lilith. She's immune to poison apparently so i just grab a bunch of Urdars and use firewall from Trangs to kill her. Other two are cake though, i can kill em pretty easily with out urdars but it takes ages. The ubers were a bit of a different story though. I got a bunch of urdars and managed to take out diablo and baal with relative ease but mephy was pretty much impossible. All his minions were too much to handle. On my first attempt I teled next to him and got him to around 1/4 life before my revives died and his skellies finished me off. After that try I hardly scratched him. There were too many skellies spawned already for me to do anything. And most of the skellies are immune to poison a few of which i couldnt break. After a few more fatal tries I got some help from a pally friend to finish him off. I'm not really sure what to do with mephy or if its even possible to do with this build aside from getting lucky. Anyways, if anybody has some good ideas post away but I've kinda given up on this build for now. I'm making a dtalon sin for ubers instead.
 
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I saw a barb do it with an item that gave him revive charges (I think that he had 8-10) he never touched the ubers, just kept howling to scare off the baddies, the urdars and his merc did all the work. So if he can do it, you certainly can. You need to use terror to disperse the baddies.

I made a poison/summon hybrid, and a fishy with mages. I prefered the fishy for ubers, his skellies were much tougher, and the mages did respectable damage, the poison ones could PMH for 6 minutes if IIRC, so resummoning was a non issue.

With the hybrid I felt like my nova was not helping that much and all of my summons were significantly weaker. I loved the gameplay of the hybrid, alot of fun, but prefered the fishy for ubers.
 
Re: Ubers, Minion's, and poison

Niniux said:
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...This is all theory, however, and anyone can feel free to tell me that my advice is retarded.
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I did it in hardcore in full trangs set last day of last ladder with lvl 35 summons, stacked resists and a crappy amulet with 2 dozen tp charges on it. I was bounced by all 4 ubers and it took me nearly 90 minutes to get the torch after sources of CB revives ran out. Poor mercenary took a beating along with my nerves. :yes:


Gave up the second time after 2 hours. :crazyeyes:


Imho without godlike gear it needs a specialist build that doesnt use skellies or mages which do indeed mainly vapourise on contact.



 
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