Shopping for Wands

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darknessproz

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Shopping for Wands

What is the min lvl rq of my charecter if i wanted to shop a +3 to RS +3 to SM or Mages?

How much would such a wand cost?

Thanks in advance. :thumbup:
 
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required lvl 1. Skeleton mastery and Raise skeleton are tier 1 spells, so ilvl has to be as low as possible. The combination is still quite rare and Arm of King Leoric is quite cheap and powerful weapon that would top it.
 
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ok so any lvl can get that combo.

so how much would such a wand cost in terms of gold.

and what about if i want to add +2 to necro to the mix? or can a wand get +3 to summoning?
 
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darknessproz said:
ok so any lvl can get that combo.

so how much would such a wand cost in terms of gold.

and what about if i want to add +2 to necro to the mix? or can a wand get +3 to summoning?
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It's quite complicated.
Skills are divided into six groups (ususally lvl1 skils are in tier1, lvl 6 skills in tier2, lvl12 skills in tier3, lvl 30 skills in tier6)
When automods are generated, they depend on an ilvl of an item (ilvl=character level +5 when shopping, with some restriction in normal difficulty)

Base tier to use for an item is determined by the ilvl as tier: ilvl range

1: 1-11
2: 12-18
3: 19-24
4: 25-36
5: 37+
then there is a random adjustment made for which tier to actually use when selecting the actual skill:

20% chance to add 1
50% chance to stay unmodified
20% chance to subtract 1
10% chance to subtract 2
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So when your ilvl is higher than 19, you can't get tier 1 skills on wands when shopping unless you shop in act1 or act2 where the ilvl is capped.

EDIT: As I think about that, you can't get a magical wand with both +2 or +3 summoning, IIRC all wands able to drop or be bought with ilvl<24 will have lower affix level than needed.
You migh get rare wand with +2 necro skills or +2 summoning if you will find a decent white elite wand and get it imbued with low level character or roll it with a PSkull reroll recipe.



 
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Re: Shopping for Wands

darknessproz said:
ok so any lvl can get that combo.

so how much would such a wand cost in terms of gold.

and what about if i want to add +2 to necro to the mix? or can a wand get +3 to summoning?
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You will need a wand with a low item level (so you can get tier 1 staffmods like RS and SM), but a high affix level (so you can get +2 necro). The 3 gem recipes for rerolling magical items produce ilvl 20 or 25 items (chipped/normal/flawless gems) or don't change it (perfect gems), that's too much. As that's the only way to reroll magic items, there's no way to produce a +3 summoning wand (alvl 60) with bonuses to RS and SM.

The only possibility is repeated use of the 6 pskulls recipe with a low-level character (L1 is OK) or using the Charsi quest of a L8 character on a high elite wand (the new ilvl will be 13 then which is a bit high for tier 1, maybe even too high already, but it gives you a good start with the 6 pskulls recipe) or to use the 6 pskull recipe repeatedly (which will producce an item with an ilvl of 0.4*charlvl+0.4*old_ilvl, which will settle at 2/3 * charlvl after a few rolls). The problem also is that staffmods are rerolled when you do something to the item which can generally change ilvls, so you will need a lucky roll on all staffmods and affixes at the same time, making a +2 necro/+3 RS/+3 SM wand a truly rare item. As each roll costs 6 pskulls, it will also be a valuable item. AFAIK, for high qlvls and low ilvls the alvl is qlvl - 2*ilvl (correct me if I'm wrong), so with ilvl=1 (which a wand will be after a few pskull rerolls by a L1 character), a qlvl 52+ wand is needed.



 
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A few computations:

A rare Unearthed Wand, with ivl 1 has affix level 73 and could get Necromancer's (+2 all necro)

A rare Lich Wand with ilvl 1 has alvl 51 and could get +2 necro.

A rare Ghost Wand with ilvl 1 has alvl 33 and can't get +2 necro.

So don't waste your time with rerolling 6-pskulls on Ghost or Polished. It does look like one of the exceptional wands couid work (Grave). I wouldn't spend skulls on this, though, as AoKL is much more manageable to get. In order to get +3 RS/+3 SM, it may help to know that there is only a 10% chance of getting +3 staffmods, once that staffmod is chosen. So out of 100 wands that have both SM and RS, only 1% on average would be +3/+3, and then you would also need at that moment to roll the desired +2 necro. Good luck! (By the time you get that, I'll climb down from my stack of Tyrael's to congratulate you...)

Seriously, for rerolling rares, I think the most compelling things are diadems or possibly LLD gear, particularly rare LLD jewels.
 
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