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arbskyz

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Question on Dclone

Ya, my question is what is the best/safest fastest build to defeat him? i've been asking around people mainly name the pallys like hammerdin and smiter... i heard smiter is best but im not sure anyone know what would be a good build? and if so can u pls post stats/skills? Wel thxs :D :xears:
 
arbskyz said:
Ya, my question is what is the best/safest fastest build to defeat him? i've been asking around people mainly name the pallys like hammerdin and smiter... i heard smiter is best but im not sure anyone know what would be a good build? and if so can u pls post stats/skills? Wel thxs :D :xears:
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I would say that a good smiter is the safest build for Uber Diablo. I suggest using something along the lines of Lacerator, Dracul's Grasp, and Upgraded Herald of Zakarum, to name a few. Lacerator is faster than say.. an Asteron's, but if ya want safer, then Dracul's Grasp's life tap will keep you at 100% hp.

Lucky
 
ic, cool thxs for the info and umm do you know what the skill tree should look like? should i just max smite/max holy shield? and ya dont really know much about pallys lol :xsmile4:
 
go smite, holy shield, fanatacism, and dump the rest in defiance (can never hurt to have more defence).

however, if you can afford draculs, lacerator, upg hoz, it can be easier to make a cold sorc and get a lot of absorb gear. orb/blizz will both work fine as long as you got max cold mastery to lower his resists. i prefer orb because you don't need to hold him in place to do massive damage, unlike blizz, where he could run away from it. if you can afford lacerator, draculs, upg HoZ, you can definitely afford dual dwarfs, rising sun, tgod's, and the rest of the gear should be oriented towards lit and fire res. if you have the dwarfs, rising sun, and tgod's, you could use this gear and still be OK:

Laying of hands (50 fire res)
4 ort armor (120 lit res)
3 ral helm (90 fire res)
Rhyme (Shael Eth) shield

With max resists, and plenty of fire absorb and a bit of lit absorb, you won't be taking enough damage from him if you run circles around him, stopping to cast orb/blizz. just watch out for his physical attack, and keep a stack of juvies just in case.

preferable stats:

str for gear (depending on your choice for endgame gear)
dex for decent blocking (around 200)
energy base (timered spells = mana not as intensively drained as a caster sorc, therefore, you don't need any points into here to continuously cast your spells)
rest in vit (should have plenty points left to dump here)

skills:

Cold Mastery 20
20 in Frozen Orb and 20 in Ice Bolt (orb synergy)
OR
20 into blizz and each synergy.


either way, you will take him down real quick, and have no problem staying alive with
your decent life, good blocking, and massive absorb.
 
Crushing is affected by physical resist (but only to lower damage done, neg doesn't increase it), if mr. clone is amped and you've got 50% cb you're going to be doing about as much damage via crushing as you would if he wasn't amped and had 95% cb, from there your actual smite damage goes up, and therefore the last quarter of his life would go faster with the amp than with the CB.

Or that's my reasoning.
 
hrmm ic i geuss ill try the smiter seeing how i alrdy got draculs and hoz[just need to up now] and j/w instead of lancerator[cause i dont have] would it be alright if just used a wepon on merc to prevent heal? or do mercs die to fast?

btw type of armor? im not that rich but this i probally got for pally is GA is this good enuff or should i try to raise the bar?
 
my java could take him down in about 12 seconds.

Gear was...

5/5 lit facet Griffons
5/5 lit facet up'ed viper
t-strokes
rhyme:(
waterwalks
dwarf star/ravenfrost
ik belt for fire and lit res
+3 java skill gloves wit +dex
perf saracens

Only time i got hurt at all was when he ***** slapped me, but it'd only take me down about 1/4 and i'd just juve so i was fine. His lit and fire didn't hurt me at all.



I had a smiter too that only got to go at dclone once before getting tppk'ed, he worked just as good as the java and was 15 lvl's lower O_O

up'ed um'ed g-angel works well for armor.
 
Well, Ya so ive decided to tell you guys that i will be making a smiter :D hope it works and j/w cause usually i only get char to level 80 i was wondering, when would this build be able to rip Dclone?
 
I've used a smiter on the clone, absolutely owns him.

Lvl 76 iirc for the draculas, and you are done.

Go with:
Astereon skt'd with shael if you can afford, if not, Black runeword scourge (fast weapon to get fastest fpa)
Hoz up'd, pdiamond
Duress runeword elite light armour
Goreriders
Draculas
Tgod
Raven
Dwarf
Highlord
Guillaume Helm

Charms to get max fire/light and life, socket guillaume to help resistances.

This will get you 95%+ CB, which is the goal, and 4fpa attack speed with smite.

Skills:
Max Smite
Max Fanatisism
Max Holy Shield
5 pts or so in Zeal (you'll use this allot for lvling him)
1 pt in wonder skills (cleansing, salvation, meditation, vigor, redemption)
Prereq's
Remainder in defiance to help Holy Shield defense.

You'll absolutely own him!

Goodluck.

Prez
 
Prez said:
I've used a smiter on the clone, absolutely owns him.

Lvl 76 iirc for the draculas, and you are done.

Go with:
Astereon skt'd with shael if you can afford, if not, Black runeword scourge (fast weapon to get fastest fpa)
Hoz up'd, pdiamond
Duress runeword elite light armour
Goreriders
Draculas
Tgod
Raven
Dwarf
Highlord
Guillaume Helm

Charms to get max fire/light and life, socket guillaume to help resistances.

This will get you 95%+ CB, which is the goal, and 4fpa attack speed with smite.

Skills:
Max Smite
Max Fanatisism
Max Holy Shield
5 pts or so in Zeal (you'll use this allot for lvling him)
1 pt in wonder skills (cleansing, salvation, meditation, vigor, redemption)
Prereq's
Remainder in defiance to help Holy Shield defense.

You'll absolutely own him!

Goodluck.

Prez
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o dang thxs for the guide man really useful imma try this out :)
 
Dcolone can be defeated by smiter in less than 10 seconds. Yes, you hear right, 10 seconds...

Smiter with maxed fana, HS, smite and I put some points into passive resists.
Gear:

BLACK runeword - cheap and 40 % Crushing blow
Helmet - Guillaume face - 35 % CB
Shoes - Goblin Toe 25 % CB if i remember

=== 100 % CB (theory, anyway, it works)

+ Dracul gloves for life tap - its UBER useful item and will save your butt million times

The rest of gear is up to you, I use Alma negra with perf diamond and some resistand charms to get massive res.

With 100 % CB Diablo clone is dead after 10 hits, I tried it in 8 ppl game, alone, with merc or without - no matter how hard it was 10 hits with 100 % CB and its over.

good luck

p.s. oh, I almost forgot - my setup shown up here is somewhat like 100 x cheaper than mentioned above :) Its for everyone. Once again, gl.
 
10 hits, you're sure?
Because that'd be something like 2.5 seconds -.-
10 seconds is quite believable, lots of builds take around that long, 10 hits not so much.
 
Astereon skt'd with shael if you can afford, if not, Black runeword scourge (fast weapon to get fastest fpa)
Hoz up'd, pdiamond
Duress runeword elite light armour
Goreriders
Draculas
Tgod
Raven
Dwarf
Highlord
Guillaume Helm

I'm all for that, 'cept if you can't afford the Asteron's, the 2os mighty scepter works just as well, with its crushing blow, and the two sockets are just begging for two shaels. Plus another +2-3 skills is nice.

Cheapest build asks for black runeword, goblin toe, guillaumes face and draculs. The rest of the gear IS NOT important, providing you can max your resists.
 
MoUsE_WiZ said:
10 hits, you're sure?
Because that'd be something like 2.5 seconds -.-
10 seconds is quite believable, lots of builds take around that long, 10 hits not so much.
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Hehehe, ok, , name it as you wish - its darn fast :)

Happy Xmas to all, cya around.
 
One more quetion, Instead of Up'd HoZ would it be better if i use Gris Sheild? Because i found one recently and my friend knew i was making a smiter and told me to use it. He said that it does more DMG. so j/w is this better or should i stick with hoz?
 
arbskyz said:
One more quetion, Instead of Up'd HoZ would it be better if i use Gris Sheild? Because i found one recently and my friend knew i was making a smiter and told me to use it. He said that it does more DMG. so j/w is this better or should i stick with hoz?
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Dmg on Griz will be 5-87 or avg = 46
Dmg on Up'd HOZ will be 46 - 46 or avg = 46

Griz has lower blocking, higher str requirements and 3 os. It'll require more pts into str to wear and dex to maintain max blocking, which means less life.

HOZ has lots of neat bonuses but you will need to use some runes to upgrade it and a socket q on it.

Remember, you are going to be doing the majority of your killing with CB, and CB does not depend upon dmg. The actual dmg only comes into play once you get the clones life down extremely low. In this case the avg dmg is the same, so you won't notice any difference in killing speed.

Overall imho HOZ > Griz, but the griz isn't a bad option and does have three skts that you can use.

Prez
 
My guess that a liberator(?) would be the best build. Hope I'm correct by the use of pvp liberator which is a hammerdin/smiter hybrid. takes dc down low with crushing blow theb finishes off with the hammers(since these are unresitable).

This said any highly efficiencent pvp/pvm build will own dc with low or no danger to yourself. (kicker(my choice) , hammerdin(boring but by far the best 1.10 overall build), Orber, boner(expensive) or any close combat-build with draculs grasp.)
 
Trying to mix hammers and smite doesn't seem like a good mix.

The equipment required for each build to be super effective is totally different, as are the skills that need to be maxed.

The smiter build will kill the clone in less than 30 seconds, so trying to speed that up doesn't seem to gain much.

Although I haven't tried it, I'm sure that a pure hammer build would work well. The beauty of the smiter build with draculas is that once lifetap goes off, smite will leach life. Therefore you can tank all the clones attacks with ease.

Lots of different builds can kill the clone, I've even done him with a necro summoner...(not recommended for speed killing).

The easy part is making a clone kller, the hard part now is finding a clone...

Prez
 
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