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Question about duped runes.
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Bo Jangles
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Re: Question about duped runes.
In short, Yes. From what I understand even if you make the runeword it can still go poof with a more thourough rust storm.
In short, Yes. From what I understand even if you make the runeword it can still go poof with a more thourough rust storm.
Re: Question about duped runes.
Don't know about your question but as long as you put the runes on a mule that *never* enters public games your runes shouldn't poof...at least mine never have and I've been holding on to some of the few I've traded for a couple months now.
Edit after reading what Bo Jangles wrote: Yeah, from what I understand a full rust storm should wipe out all duped items on all characters, including runewords with duped runes (which are most of the higher runewords people have). But I guess that hasn't happened in the past months in which I've been playing (and there's not much you can do in that case anyway).
Don't know about your question but as long as you put the runes on a mule that *never* enters public games your runes shouldn't poof...at least mine never have and I've been holding on to some of the few I've traded for a couple months now.
Edit after reading what Bo Jangles wrote: Yeah, from what I understand a full rust storm should wipe out all duped items on all characters, including runewords with duped runes (which are most of the higher runewords people have). But I guess that hasn't happened in the past months in which I've been playing (and there's not much you can do in that case anyway).
Re: Question about duped runes.
I've been through 2 rust storm cleansings and I have yet to have certain runes/rune words poof that I know for FACT are dupes.
To the best of my amazingly finite knowledge of the "scene" once you place a rune into either a unique or a COMPLETED runeword it changes the entire ID, rendering rust storm useless.
Now if b.net were to tag you as soon as you got the rune, that'd be a different story. From what I've seen in the packet flux Warden hasn't shown its ugly head (we're talking a new sweep here, not old warden modules) in about 2 months.
"Rust Storm"
A code-name for a warden module that deletes duplicated code. IE: Uniques (.08 in particular), and heavily massed runes... or really any specific items they see fit to destroy from the realm.
I've been through 2 rust storm cleansings and I have yet to have certain runes/rune words poof that I know for FACT are dupes.
To the best of my amazingly finite knowledge of the "scene" once you place a rune into either a unique or a COMPLETED runeword it changes the entire ID, rendering rust storm useless.
Now if b.net were to tag you as soon as you got the rune, that'd be a different story. From what I've seen in the packet flux Warden hasn't shown its ugly head (we're talking a new sweep here, not old warden modules) in about 2 months.
"Rust Storm"
A code-name for a warden module that deletes duplicated code. IE: Uniques (.08 in particular), and heavily massed runes... or really any specific items they see fit to destroy from the realm.
Re: Question about duped runes.
Hacks no, items yes... in short.
rsut storm is some security cleaning for hacks and such stuff ?
Hacks no, items yes... in short.
Re: Question about duped runes.
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@MrOzio - from what I've read an "active" ruststorm (as opposed to the passive one that's always sweeping pubs) will find and delete rws that include duped runes in them...then again, I have no idea how reliable that info is. (it's always "I've heard that...")
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Duped items get "flagged" as such. Blizzard has a program called Rust Storm that periodically (continuously?) scours public games and deletes dupes.
@MrOzio - from what I've read an "active" ruststorm (as opposed to the passive one that's always sweeping pubs) will find and delete rws that include duped runes in them...then again, I have no idea how reliable that info is. (it's always "I've heard that...")
Re: Question about duped runes.
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Duped items get "flagged" as such. Blizzard has a program called Rust Storm that periodically (continuously?) scours public games and deletes dupes.
Unfortunatly that isn't 100% as per my post. There is no stand-alone program called "rust storm". Blizzard can NOT flag EVERY item that is duplicated as the methods are ever-changing and no two are exactly the same.
If you need someone to vouch for my understanding of such... sensitive matters as "hacks" and "utilities" please talk to Ruff. While I do not use nor condone the use of any third party programs I, at one time, was on fore-front of all things malicious.
I am proud to say that over my "D2 career" I have owned 2 D2 online stores, created/co-created 4 different multi-bots including the original MMBot. Skull and I were good friends for 3 years (Ruff has met him as well). And I've had over 30 accounts deleted (along with keys) for "malicious hacking".
With all that said... I no longer use ANY third party programs to boost myself above others. The only program I use is a chat/item drop logger for a service I run for friends - I leave my character in an anti-idle game so that they can mule w/o trouble.
Re: Question about duped runes.
Ya pretty sure the whole "Full rust storm" poofing was proven wrong on the actual bnet forums. There was basically one guy who wrote a sticky claiming they poof and how that all got started. I've never had duped runes I've made rune words out of poof in a full rust storm either. There would be way too much server load for the game to keep track of what item ID's the item was made out and then to actually check against them.
Wish that rumor would die already.
I've been through 2 rust storm cleansings and I have yet to have certain runes/rune words poof that I know for FACT are dupes.
To the best of my amazingly finite knowledge of the "scene" once you place a rune into either a unique or a COMPLETED runeword it changes the entire ID, rendering rust storm useless.
Now if b.net were to tag you as soon as you got the rune, that'd be a different story. From what I've seen in the packet flux Warden hasn't shown its ugly head (we're talking a new sweep here, not old warden modules) in about 2 months.
"Rust Storm"
A code-name for a warden module that deletes duplicated code. IE: Uniques (.08 in particular), and heavily massed runes... or really any specific items they see fit to destroy from the realm.
Ya pretty sure the whole "Full rust storm" poofing was proven wrong on the actual bnet forums. There was basically one guy who wrote a sticky claiming they poof and how that all got started. I've never had duped runes I've made rune words out of poof in a full rust storm either. There would be way too much server load for the game to keep track of what item ID's the item was made out and then to actually check against them.
Wish that rumor would die already.
Re: Question about duped runes.
Hmm, well thanks for clearing that up...every time I encounter a thread on these matters there're a lot of people offering rumors as knowledge, it's hard to know what to believe.
Well you just killed it for one more person :grin:
So, is the basic idea of holding hrs on a mule that doesn't enter public games a solid one or just some more nonsense? I've read numerous reasonings for doing this but for all I know they could also be a load of bs.
Hmm, well thanks for clearing that up...every time I encounter a thread on these matters there're a lot of people offering rumors as knowledge, it's hard to know what to believe.
Wish that rumor would die already.
Well you just killed it for one more person :grin:
So, is the basic idea of holding hrs on a mule that doesn't enter public games a solid one or just some more nonsense? I've read numerous reasonings for doing this but for all I know they could also be a load of bs.
Re: Question about duped runes.
Thats what I do, I have 3 Cd keys though, so it's easy for me to mule. He never enters a pub game.
I still perm them regardless if people think it helps or not, I've never had a rune poof if I permed. Not sure if I just had a random rust storm once or what but I've had 5 poof the one time I didn't....go figure =/.
If anything, it's a good luck ritual for me =P.
Thats what I do, I have 3 Cd keys though, so it's easy for me to mule. He never enters a pub game.
I still perm them regardless if people think it helps or not, I've never had a rune poof if I permed. Not sure if I just had a random rust storm once or what but I've had 5 poof the one time I didn't....go figure =/.
If anything, it's a good luck ritual for me =P.
Re: Question about duped runes.
It's more nonsense, mate. If it's flagged - it's flagged. Just like "perming". It doesn't work. I only do it to make people feel better.
Hmm, well thanks for clearing that up...every time I encounter a thread on these matters there're a lot of people offering rumors as knowledge, it's hard to know what to believe.
Well you just killed it for one more person :grin:
So, is the basic idea of holding hrs on a mule that doesn't enter public games a solid one or just some more nonsense? I've read numerous reasonings for doing this but for all I know they could also be a load of bs.
It's more nonsense, mate. If it's flagged - it's flagged. Just like "perming". It doesn't work. I only do it to make people feel better.
Re: Question about duped runes.
Thanks, good to know that...I guess I'd better put those runes to use while I still can.
It's more nonsense, mate. If it's flagged - it's flagged. Just like "perming". It doesn't work. I only do it to make people feel better.
Thanks, good to know that...I guess I'd better put those runes to use while I still can.
Re: Question about duped runes.
I wouldn't worry about it too much, personally. Like I said previously, I haven't seen any new Warden modules in about 2 months. And they never use the same modules twice.
But hey, it's always better to use whatcha have rather than hording, right? =)
Thanks, good to know that...I guess I'd better put those runes to use while I still can.
I wouldn't worry about it too much, personally. Like I said previously, I haven't seen any new Warden modules in about 2 months. And they never use the same modules twice.
But hey, it's always better to use whatcha have rather than hording, right? =)
Re: Question about duped runes.
Every trade is a risk. Either from being scammed, some new trade hack method, or from flagged runes. I can't tell you what you should do, but if you just stick to what you find you'll be a lot safer (although sometimes a little less well-to-do).
With that said... I trade anything and everything but I dont trade for what I dont need. When I get a rune - I use it almost imediatly. If not then within the week.
woo what do us uggest me ? to rtake the risk and buy jah Ber from bnet ?
Every trade is a risk. Either from being scammed, some new trade hack method, or from flagged runes. I can't tell you what you should do, but if you just stick to what you find you'll be a lot safer (although sometimes a little less well-to-do).
With that said... I trade anything and everything but I dont trade for what I dont need. When I get a rune - I use it almost imediatly. If not then within the week.
