Possibilities for this naga?

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LukeJames

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Possibilities for this naga?

Possibilities for this naga?
Hope I'm not too annoying asking all these questions

Alright, to build that freezedin I was talking about a few days ago, I had to strip down my level 33 naga charger and the only thing left on his character is the naga. Granted, it's not a really good naga but I love the elemental on it, it's got juicy elementals which can sometimes be quite useful in PVM. I want to know what I should build with it, please don't recommend a charger, I already built a charger that is perfect and is holding some of my best gear so I don't need another one. I want to keep whatever uses this naga, under level 30, I do enjoy my low level dueling every now and then. However, West has a shortage of LLD games, there are pretty much no games to duel in except for Nightmare or Hell. Since Nightmare is my favourite difficulty [Not too noob-infested and not too elitist] I want to build something to hopefully duel there or Normal.

Naga (Lvl. 25 requirement)
108 Damage
7-18 Fire Damage
5-13 Cold Damage

It's not a good naga, I know but it's low level requirement and it has useful cold damage on it. I was thinking maybe a LLD Barb with it or maybe a LLD Zealer, using might or something? Thoughts?
 
LukeJames said:
Possibilities for this naga?
Hope I'm not too annoying asking all these questions

Alright, to build that freezedin I was talking about a few days ago, I had to strip down my level 33 naga charger and the only thing left on his character is the naga. Granted, it's not a really good naga but I love the elemental on it, it's got juicy elementals which can sometimes be quite useful in PVM. I want to know what I should build with it, please don't recommend a charger, I already built a charger that is perfect and is holding some of my best gear so I don't need another one. I want to keep whatever uses this naga, under level 30, I do enjoy my low level dueling every now and then. However, West has a shortage of LLD games, there are pretty much no games to duel in except for Nightmare or Hell. Since Nightmare is my favourite difficulty [Not too noob-infested and not too elitist] I want to build something to hopefully duel there or Normal.

Naga (Lvl. 25 requirement)
108 Damage
7-18 Fire Damage
5-13 Cold Damage

It's not a good naga, I know but it's low level requirement and it has useful cold damage on it. I was thinking maybe a LLD Barb with it or maybe a LLD Zealer, using might or something? Thoughts?
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Hmm, that's actually not a bad weapon. If you look at the top of the Threads page, you'll see a thread that says "Classic Builds." In it is a build for a PvP Speeder Barb. You might want to take a look at that to get some idea of what you want to make.

- Akukami
 
One of my friends has a naga, same damage but elemental of 50 poison damage. Do you think, if possible to mooch it off him, the two elemental 108's would combine for a pvp naga speeder? I have some good rings and 30 frw boots with perfect lightning res..
 
Okay, I managed to trade him for the naga. Now I have two 108 naga's, full irathas, hawkmail, boots and rings. I need to know if the following combo will work at pvp;

38-108 Naga (4-13 cold, 7-16 fire, 156 attack rating)
42-108 Naga (+50 poison damage, 86 attack rating)
Hawkmail
Iratha crown
Iratha gloves
Iratha Belt
Iratha Ammulet
Ring (25 lr, 100 ar)
Ring (28 cr, 16 lr, 52 ar)
30 frw, 10 fhr, 39 lighting resistant greaves

*Boost strength to 121 exactly, 0 strength upgrades from gear
*Maximize vitality (Obviously)

20 Axe Mastery
20 Battle Orders
20 Increase Speed
20 Whirlwind
 
doesnt the crazy 30% speed from gear (and 30 from boots?)
make this gear perfect for frenzy barb?

actually I dont have a frenzy barb, but Im making one and was told that such gear would be good (dual nagas, irathas)
 
i'd say full iratha is more a handicap than helpful. i would recommend ditching irathas amulet and replacing it with a barb ammy heavy on the cold res. a +1 barb priz with 45+ cr and maybe other useful mods [str/dex/min/life] can probably be picked up pretty cheap if you do some looking. a non priz barb ammy could also fill this slots, look for like +1 or +2 barb with cold and light res as close to 40 [max i think for nonprismatic]. if you're really on a tight budget, you could find a nonskill priz ammy to get you by. nonskill priz can have more than one stack on it too. finding something like 20priz 45+cr 45+lr w/ stats shouldnt be difficult or expensive, as it has no real value to most people.

also try to pick up some more cold resist from your boots and rings. try to get as close to 40cr on boots and 30cr on your rings as you can, even if it means sacrificing light res. you'll run into far more cold sorcs than fohers, and can swap in some lr gear when you need to. a 3 p topaz shield would come in handy for some cheap stack vs fohers. and honestly, i have no problem at all using a stack shield against fohers, cheap as they are, because i regard fohers as being a cheapshot, no-skill toy, enjoyed by only the dimmest of bulbs...

if you're wanting to pick up some more resists in any other situation [or block], go with a 30/20 priz shield. dont use a cold stack shield for sorcs--for one theres no need, and secondly you'll catcha alot of verbal abuse for being a cheap-o [and rightly so].

oh one more thing-- thawing potions are easy way to pick up some extra cold stack [50 i think?]. its kinda cheap i guess, but nobody has to know :xmas30:


[EDIT]: oh and instead of maxing out increased speed and neglecting nat res, i think splitting it up with 10 in each might be points better spent.

anyhow, merry christmas and a :xmas10:
 
Frenzy Barbarians sound interesting but they are god awful at PVP. They would first need a bunch of monsters to kill just to get the frenzy started and would not work well against Dins, Zons or Barbarians which pretty much makes them useless. I'm sticking with Full Irathas, although I know it's everyone's quest and understanding that getting rare items means your character will be better, this is incorrect.

Not only will Irathas match prizmatic amulets, it will top them by giving you massive ammounts of dexterity meaning the attack rating goes up which is quite useful considering you will have no Angelics. Contrary to what some believe, +skills for barbarians is not useful in the least, it is the difference of maybe 50-100 damage, half a minute extra duration and about 100-200 health, which does not beat enhanced attack rating given by dexterity (No the mastery would not trump it) as well higher resists.

Yes, I always do chuck a few points into Natural Resistance just to make everything perfect. I didn't post a 100%-Accurate skill allocation, just a rough sketch.
 
LukeJames said:
I'm sticking with Full Irathas, although I know it's everyone's quest and understanding that getting rare items means your character will be better, this is incorrect.

Not only will Irathas match prizmatic amulets, it will top them by giving you massive ammounts of dexterity meaning the attack rating goes up which is quite useful considering you will have no Angelics. Contrary to what some believe, +skills for barbarians is not useful in the least, it is the difference of maybe 50-100 damage, half a minute extra duration and about 100-200 health, which does not beat enhanced attack rating given by dexterity (No the mastery would not trump it) as well higher resists.
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i think you're missing the point of what i was trying to say....the theme for a speeder [since killing elemental killers is their meat and potatoes] should be Crazy Levels of Stacked Resists. specifically: 1.cold and 2.lightning --because of A. cold mastery and B. conviction.

80% of the people you'll see in most pvp games will be cold sorcs. orb or blizz. if you have your cr up to snuff, 0% of these will ever get a kill on you. they just wont be able to do enough damage before u catch them....

but if you think that full irathas and the cr off your one ring will be enough to tank a good blizzard, you've a nasty surprise coming. a good blizzard will simply eat right through you. no problem. or an orber with good tele skills might make you look awfully silly.

i forget...how much dex would full irathas provide? its like 30 or 35 right? 10 of it is on the belt, so no loss there. and the full set gives what like 35 to all resists, and +max res? so anything more than 35cr on your ammy is doin better for you than irathas, stack-wise. dont get me wrong, i like irathas--my speeders wear partial, mostly for the faster run/walk.

and to say that +barb skills is useless, well thats a weird thing to say. sure the benifits come in small slices, but they go across the board....+skills will give your speeder More life, more damage, more attack rating, more resists and make him faster.....you don't really need any +skills, but the effects are all useful ones.

trust me man, full irathas is a mistake. if you feel you really gotta have that dex you'll lose, pick some up on your rings/boots. but really man, you dont need much attack rating on a speeder in most duels. only against a din or another barb will you need to pick up some more AR, and in those cases you really cant afford not to swap out your jewlry for angelics.
 
Get increased speed to lvl 14 afer + skills. Thats when it reaches 40% r/w and more points add very diminishing returns

Full itharas will work on a speeder

Check out my BvC guide

The 108 nagas will work, obviously wont be as effective as higher damage nagas but oh well








Fred
 
Heh, actually, you know what? I think I might make these into a LLD double-swing barb. We keep talking about cold sorcies, well my charger can eat cold sorcies even high level ones in a breeze with his stacked resists. He can't tank the blizzards very well, only takes 2 of them to kill him however he charges right through them and destroys the sorceress.

Can anyone draft me a Lvl. 25 double-swing naga barbarian? Since both nagas are Req. Lvl 25 anyways. I'm sure poison+cold elementals would make a fairly badass double swinger. As well as 3-range.
 
LukeJames said:
Heh, actually, you know what? I think I might make these into a LLD double-swing barb. We keep talking about cold sorcies, well my charger can eat cold sorcies even high level ones in a breeze with his stacked resists. He can't tank the blizzards very well, only takes 2 of them to kill him however he charges right through them and destroys the sorceress.

Can anyone draft me a Lvl. 25 double-swing naga barbarian? Since both nagas are Req. Lvl 25 anyways. I'm sure poison+cold elementals would make a fairly badass double swinger. As well as 3-range.
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Due to no ias on the nagas, i dont really consider them viable for any non-ww melee build








Fred
 
Could I not just use the classic - Twitch + Sigons + Goldwrap?
In any case, I had a level twelve double-death swinger that hit fast enough to take down anyone he touched and that was with only 30 ias.
 
LukeJames said:
Could I not just use the classic - Twitch + Sigons + Goldwrap?
In any case, I had a level twelve double-death swinger that hit fast enough to take down anyone he touched and that was with only 30 ias.
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Eh... dont use sigson + goldwrap for pvp... ever. (well, mabye on a specific bowazon)

If your nagas have ias on them you willl have much more flexible gear options... and a slow double swing is no threat to anyone







Fred
 
A threat in nightmare he would be not.
A threat in normal, versus barbarians with gemmed shortswords and magical gear bought from Charsi.

Anyways, I'm going through with it, I'm just trying to sort out the gear options.
 
Hawkmail is scale mail, which slows your r/w speed 10%

For the nagas, no IAS means no frenzy or swinging speeds, leaving only whirlwind for a viable attack. Dual weps is pointless for this. You would be better off with a 220 Ancient Axe.

Try trading these nagas off for some better gear. Someone starting a naga barb might like one of them, but they're really too weak to be useful to most.
 
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