Patriarch Striker FOH/Fireball'er just because

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Patriarch Striker FOH/Fireball'er just because

I decided on this build while trying to decide if there was a possiblity of making a decent Dragon Scale pally. I thought at first just maybe dragon scale and all the pieces of the trangs set except the shield of course might be able to make a pally that worked. After talking with some smarter folks I decided it wouldnt and just went with the trangs belt and gloves as a backup for FOH. Anyway I figured its been done and worked so why not.


The skills were strait forward for a FOH build

combat skills
offensive auras
defensive auras
I decided to go Holy shield over Holy bolt. I figured I'd rather survive than kill a few more allready dead beasties.

Gear was also strait forward caster except for of course the trangs belt and Ormus Robes.

Ormus robes +3 FB also with a fire facet in it just for fun
Shako it has a resist jewel on it and i considered going with a griffons eye as well
trangs gloves important for fire ball and FCR
Trangs belt other than fireball it added CBF and some life and some mana
Spirit sacred targe all around great shield for casters this one in a good pally shield with tons of resists
Heart of the Oak
I didnt bother with Screenys of the jewelry but thwey were tweo SOJ's and a +28 Mara's. Charms were LB's with 4 fire resist sc's.

stat point placement was uninteresting
dressed
nekkid

My Merc was a wonderful help. He brought a Insight and Holy freeze to the party. With Treachery and Vampire gaze on he died some but it wasnt to horrible.

Playing this guy was actually pretty fun. I played him through twinking minus gold every piece of gold he has he found himself. I always thought of FOH as a super slow pvm skill but it wasnt as bad as I thought it might be. Fireball wasnt super usefull I didnt really ever think it would be. It did have a place in the build large swarms of small beasties were handled pretty fast with fireballs. there are some monsters, demons or whatever that are LI and even after conviction takes down there immunity there still really strongly lightning resistant, fireball was great for that as well. And finally in Fireballs defense I got a LI hell ancient and finished him off with the skill. Playing hell at anything above p4 though would take forever so its no power build....

I'd like to thank Ashmer Amadeus for the loan of his fireball Ormus robes, Also Zylo and Liquid Evil for their advice on the build...
 
Re: Patriarch Striker FOH/Fireball'er just because

Woot woot, nice character Smilts.
 
Re: Patriarch Striker FOH/Fireball'er just because

Masterfully done hero, though the thanks are hardly necessary since it appears my original advice of "whatever you do, don't build a fireball/foh pally--make a druid instead" has been completely ignored. A Fist of Heaven variant has always looked so tedious to me, but congrats on finally completing the guy regardless. On to your Charger I suppose?
 
Re: Patriarch Striker FOH/Fireball'er just because

Congratulations. I got mine to the Catacombs before I gave up and re-equipped him as an elemental Zealot, so I it must have taken some perseverance.
 
Re: Patriarch Striker FOH/Fireball'er just because

Well done, it takes some patience to patriarch a build like this one! You know you didn't have to use a FB Ormus, since the +3 FB is sorc only, right? :p
 
Re: Patriarch Striker FOH/Fireball'er just because

Thnx all it really only took a few days it wasnt to bad a play through.. Also the +3 fire ball from Ormus actually adds the +3 fireball to this build even though its not a sorc no clue as to why...
 
Re: Patriarch Striker FOH/Fireball'er just because

smilts said:
Also the +3 fire ball from Ormus actually adds the +3 fireball to this build even though its not a sorc no clue as to why...
Click to expand...

That's interesting. I knew that it worked for Iron Wolves since it's an inherent skill, but I'm surprised that it works for other classes.


 
Re: Patriarch Striker FOH/Fireball'er just because

If you have a point in the skill from another source (in this case Trang's Set) +skills from elsewhere will work, even if they are class specific.

Apparently it works with Zeal from Passion and a Scepter with +3 Zeal on it so you get the maximum five hits. I'll try this one as soon as I find a caddy with +3 Zeal and 4os.
 
Re: Patriarch Striker FOH/Fireball'er just because

I actually have one of these, but I did not know that the 3 FB from Ormus actually added +3. Are you certain?

I will test this later, and what you are saying with Zeal from passion and + Zeal from another paladin only source (scepter...)!
 
Re: Patriarch Striker FOH/Fireball'er just because

Perhaps, the way it's coded, "<class> only" really just means "it only adds to the skill if you already have the skill".
 
Re: Patriarch Striker FOH/Fireball'er just because

I'm certain about nothing that I haven't tested myself :)
I have the information from others that FB Ormus works, but have never tested it. It's an easy test though with two characters and an MP game / 2 instances. Just don't believe the LCS.

To clarify, Passion is supposed to work the same way (again not tested by myself). Assume you have no other sources of +skills. Either you make Passion in a +3 zeal scepter or use a Barb - Passion in the primary hand, scepter with +3 zeal in the other. Because you have the +1 zeal from Passion, the +3 on the scepter works, irrespective of class, so you get five hits. Allegedly.

@Rhone: Nicely put.
 
Re: Patriarch Striker FOH/Fireball'er just because

Im not sure about the zeal thing... However Im certain about the Ormus and because its kinda cool I did screenys.

with Ormus
without Ormus

Ive heard that passion in a nice +zeal scepter works and wasnt certain about the fierball thing. Until a search by Liquid Evil on here brought up a couple of these builds that used a +3 Fire Ball Ormus's.
 
Re: Patriarch Striker FOH/Fireball'er just because

Had no idea about that but it's quite nice, I would never have thought it would work though! You learn something new every day :)
 
Re: Patriarch Striker FOH/Fireball'er just because

A little late to the discussion, but I can confirm that +skill <class only> works as long as you're getting access to the skill from another source (i.e. oskills). I did the same thing with my Firewall/Singer barbarian.


Nice build smilts. Last time I found a Dragonscale I was looking into builds to use it with, and yours is pretty much identical to what I had planned... but I looked at the damage and aborted my idea. It's good to see you followed through with yours though (even if you used a different shield). :thumbsup:
 
Re: Patriarch Striker FOH/Fireball'er just because

Fireball looks like it was 458-503, so it reads pretty sad conviction helps alot.

Sirpoopsalot some of this came fom a thread where I posted asking about dragonscale builds. Like you, I just couldnt manage to get a dragonscale in a build where it looked like it might actually be usefull at all. Which means I have a few DragonScales never to be used. Like so many Uniques in this game that look like they could be fun but dont fit into any skill molds available......
 
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