Mephy been toned down?

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agentbilly

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Mephy been toned down?

Does hell meph still drop HOZ or have they fixed that. I currently have over 400 mf and i have done about 200 runs and havn;t found an occy, soj, bkring, hoz, or shako. nothing even worth over pul. does anyone know if they got rid of some of his drops. or toned him down a lot?
 
agentbilly said:
Does hell meph still drop HOZ or have they fixed that. I currently have over 400 mf and i have done about 200 runs and havn;t found an occy, soj, bkring, hoz, or shako. nothing even worth over pul. does anyone know if they got rid of some of his drops. or toned him down a lot?
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I think you just going thru some bad luck.
 
dang can anyone who has found a hoz or shako post here plz. i would like to know:

also only this ladder season plz

How many runs it took:
How much mf:
 
agentbilly said:
dang can anyone who has found a hoz or shako post here plz. i would like to know:

also only this ladder season plz

How many runs it took:
How much mf:
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Why should they post? MF is based on luck. I could have 10% MF and run Meph once and get a Shako or Hoz and you could run him 200 times with 400% MF and jack and ****. There is no corrolation between how much MF you have and how often you will get unique drops or what those drops will be.

Also, runes are not dropped based on MF percentage at all, just level odds.
 
did i say rune drops? i said items worth more than pul. but anyway back in the day. i seem to remeber u needed like a certain amount of mf, and u needed to find like the unique rings in order. in order to find soj's but i am not sure. and i am just curious on if they have toned him down. u dont ahve to respond like a ***** and get mad at me for having 400 mf. i am asking a question so bug off if u dont like my question
 
HGHLNDR said:
There is no corrolation between how much MF you have and how often you will get unique drops or what those drops will be.
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I think you should research a little before making that statement.
There is mathematical evidence that proves otherwise.
 
Wow! You did 200 runs and didn't get a single specific item! Now that comes out as a shock doesn't it?
They haven't toned Meph down. You are just having a string of bad luck. Do 1800 more runs, and you should get something valueable.
 
agentbilly said:
dang can anyone who has found a hoz or shako post here plz. i would like to know:

also only this ladder season plz

How many runs it took:
How much mf:
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Ok - I'll entertain you...

401%MF
~200 runs

Good finds: Gheeds, 2xfacet, 2xSoul Drainer, Dracs, Jalals, Ali baba, many many uniques and not one set ammy. :(

I have found that the drops are less - but that's because they DID nerf Meph - before this patch tho. And what everyone is saying, in a roundabout way it true. It doesn't matter how much MF you have - the TC is not affected by MF - just the rarity of the item in that TC. So if you get the shako TC, and you have 400%mf, you have a higher % of it being magic than if you have 10% mf.

Anyway - a kazzzzzillion threads on this topic - but that's what I have found.
 
You'd need to do in excees of 10,000 runs to 'prove' meph has been toned down on bnet. AFAIK Blizzard hasn't ever and won't ever tone down a monster's drops without an accompanying off-line patch. Of course, the question if they're ever going to release another patch remains.
 
agentbilly said:
did i say rune drops? i said items worth more than pul. but anyway back in the day. i seem to remeber u needed like a certain amount of mf, and u needed to find like the unique rings in order. in order to find soj's but i am not sure. and i am just curious on if they have toned him down. u dont ahve to respond like a ***** and get mad at me for having 400 mf. i am asking a question so bug off if u dont like my question
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The whole "finding the unique rings in order" thing was back in v1.07 IIRC. It no longer applies. Nightmare Anderial is your best bet for a SOJ.

MF will increase the odds of finding magic, rare, set and unique items... but think about killing speed also. And a monster is either capable of dropping an item or not, no amount of MF will change that.

By the way, last skako I found was in Hell Tristam. :lol:

Good luck!
 
In 10 (yes, ten) Hell Mephisto runs, I found a 141 (perfect) Shako, +2 Marrows, Reaper's Toll, Baraner's Star, Occy, Griswold's Armor, and a Druid Summoning GC.

In over 1000 (yes, one thousand) Hell Countess runs, I've found 2 Lum runes. That's it. Nothing ever higher then Lum.

In 30 (yes, thirty) Hell Countess runs on my character, my friend found Mal, Lem, and 2 Lum's.

DROPS ARE RANDOM. All the MF will do is increase an item's chance to be magic, set, or unique. MF won't make Shako's drop. MF will make rare Mage Plates drop, instead of magic Mage Plates. MF doesn't know which items are worth a ton and spit them out, it just makes the quality better.
 
I second the notion that Meph seems to suck lately. This is probably from the previously mentioned Meph-nerf. He's very stingy anymore... So how about this one. I decided to do combination Meph & Andy runs, to make less games and get temp-banned less often. FIRST Andy run - BulKathos ring. (I have found only 3 +skill rings my entire time playing D2 - and I have done probably 10000 Meph runs) SECOND Andy run - Bonehew. And then, next few runs I got a Skullders in catacombs from some mini boss. Not much after that though. Is the Andy bug still in effect? If so how can I get it working again? :D
 
Meph has sucked the past couple of weeks, but it could be the luck factor. I found hoz, 130 spider and a 110 shako in my first 150 or so hell/meph/mf runs of this ladder season.

Countess has always been a waste of time for me. Maybe a lum, nothing better.

Andy dropped Tals Ammy, but that's it for 300-400 runs. I may try nightmare Andy because SOJ is what I really need now.

My MF is around 260.

As a HGHLNDR said above, I don't think my post is really a useful point of reference, but it kept my Meph gambling addiction alive.
 
agentbilly said:
Does hell meph still drop HOZ or have they fixed that. I currently have over 400 mf and i have done about 200 runs and havn;t found an occy, soj, bkring, hoz, or shako. nothing even worth over pul. does anyone know if they got rid of some of his drops. or toned him down a lot?
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I was sure I had read they toned him down with 1.10 two years ago (if not sooner).

If you are getting crappy uniques, lousy rares and lots of useless magic items then MF is doing it's job.

The game was written by Blizzard employees who believe the game should be played a certain way. Every patch since then has been an effort to get people to play it that way. (go figure)
 
Another way of looking at it:
I have done 100 summoner hell runs to get the key, and never did get one until today, where he dropped 2 ( yes 2!! ) at the same time.
Unbelievable.

Oh, and I have found 3 herald of Zakarums. None of them came from Mephisto, 2 of them came in the Mausoleum, the other from a Pit run.
2 of the 3 were from "hoarking" ( use of find item skill )

*thynqikan
 
De4dEyE said:
Meph. Did. Not. Get. Nerfed.
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I'm afraid he did! It was in the 1.10 patch as mentioned above. He only drops well the first time you kill him, after that it has been nerfed. But that's going back a year or so...
 
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