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[Korgath]

Making my zealot/smiter - ISO answers for cresent moon r/w

I was thinking of making a cheap zealot to ubers. I've always gone the CB way with a VERY cheap lightsabre sword. Gets the job done.

My questions would be,

1. is it worthwhile to make a crescent moon phase blade instead of going lightsabre?

2. Would static field cast while smiting, say end bosses/ubers?

3. Would CB and static field not be like doing the same job? Or it makes sense to have both? (Taking off a % of enemy life?)

 

[kardinaal]

Re: Making my zealot/smiter - ISO answers for cresent moon r/w

1. Don't know really, never used lightsaber

2. Ctc works with smite

3. Both static and CB can go off at the same time afaik.

Static field will only work for the top half of (hell) monsters though, so once the boss/uber is down to half life, it might be interesting to weapon switch for more crushing blow. OTOH, CB does 25% of enemy life, just as static field. So you might be better off with higher CB than with low chance to cast either. But if you have high CB from your other gear allready, it might be worth it...

 

[krischan]

Re: Making my zealot/smiter - ISO answers for cresent moon r/w

Static will have no effect on monsters which have less than 50% life in hell mode (or down to 1/3 life in nightmare) while CB will still work normally, so it makes sense to have both. The good thing about static is that it is an area spell, so after a few attacks, all enemies around you are down to 50% life in hell mode... except lightning immunes, of course.

Stormlash is better than Crescent Moon, of course, but it also has a higher level req, so Crescent Moon is still a useful leveling weapon.

 

[Korgath]

Re: Making my zealot/smiter - ISO answers for cresent moon r/w

Well, if you have CB from guillaumes+gores, a storm lash is kinda expensive . The only mod of interest is the extra speeding factor of static.
So, if it works on smite, I definetely think that a crescent moon will be better than a lightsabre (though more expensive) but not as pricey as stormlash!
@Krischan: thanks for pointing out the area effect of static. I didnot know this.

 

[kardinaal]

Re: Making my zealot/smiter - ISO answers for cresent moon r/w

Well, actually, since last wish gives you 60~70% CB, and guillaumes gives you 35%, you're allready around 100%, which frees up your boots slot. War Travellers come to mind, CK boots, or boots with extra lightning resist

 

[KillaMike]

Re: Making my zealot/smiter - ISO answers for cresent moon r/w

Last wish is overpriced and over rated runeword. only person who could use it: Kicksin, but even they prefer stormlash.

 

[krischan]

Re: Making my zealot/smiter - ISO answers for cresent moon r/w

LW needs 6 HRs which is probably way out of reach, else asking about Crescent Moon would make no sense.

I don't think that the extra CB from Stormlash is overkill if you have Gores nad Guillaume's. 50% is enough for a weapon like Grief, but the damage of Stormlash is very variable, with very little minimum damage, so more risk is involved. A few unlucky damage rolls in a row while smiting Lilith or Ãœber Meph and you might not lifetap back enough to survive, so the quicker you can kill them, the better.

 

[helvete1]

Re: Making my zealot/smiter - ISO answers for cresent moon r/w

Stick THUL+IO in a flail and never think of spending another pgem for a ubersmiters weapon

 

[Korgath]

Re: Making my zealot/smiter - ISO answers for cresent moon r/w

Another question about crescent moon r/w..
-35% To Enemy Lightning Resistance
Will the above stat break lightning immunity making static more effective?

 

[frums]

Re: Making my zealot/smiter - ISO answers for cresent moon r/w

no,only curses and conviction are able to break immunities

 

[helvete1]

Re: Making my zealot/smiter - ISO answers for cresent moon r/w

However, if immunity IS broken, it will make static more effective. If you LR a monster which already is at 0%, it will make static less effective.... Static works weird with -LR

 

[Korgath]

Re: Making my zealot/smiter - ISO answers for cresent moon r/w

Will -35% Lightning resistance BREAK lightning immunity of some monsters?

 

[terpfan]

Re: Making my zealot/smiter - ISO answers for cresent moon r/w

Stick THUL+IO in a flail and never think of spending another pgem for a ubersmiters weapon

But what good is a weapon that has some vit and cold dmg?

 

[Korgath]

Re: Making my zealot/smiter - ISO answers for cresent moon r/w

It will kill the monster with "crushing blow" Crushing blow takes a % life off an enemy if Im right irrespective of the damage of your weapon. I dont know the exact maths but its a huge bit of damage. More knowledgeable members can surely clarify this for you.

 

[terpfan]

Re: Making my zealot/smiter - ISO answers for cresent moon r/w

It will kill the monster with "crushing blow" Crushing blow takes a % life off an enemy if Im right irrespective of the damage of your weapon. I dont know the exact maths but its a huge bit of damage. More knowledgeable members can surely clarify this for you.

er..It was a bit of playful sarcasm as evidenced by the wink - since he had forgotten the Nef involved in the runeword, the result would have been a weapon with only the properties of the runes mentioned..

 

[Aldeth the Foppish Idiot]

Re: Making my zealot/smiter - ISO answers for cresent moon r/w

Will -35% Lightning resistance BREAK lightning immunity of some monsters?

I am unsure if -XX% resistance on weapons works the same way as it does for spells, like Conviction, Lower Resistance, and Cold Mastery.

For spells, -% resistance works as follows:

For monsters with less than 100% resistance, -XX% resistance works exactly as you would think. If something is 50% lightning resistant, it would be 15% resistant.

For monsters with over 100+% lightning resistance (i.e., lightning immune), the lowered resistance works at 1/5 the stated level. So if you had an enemy that was 107% or more resistant to lightning (and many lightning immunes are), you would not break the immunity.

So assuming it works with weapons the same way it works with spells, I would not count on the -35%LR to break any immunities on hell difficulty.

 

[helvete1]

Re: Making my zealot/smiter - ISO answers for cresent moon r/w

But what good is a weapon that has some vit and cold dmg?

LOL, forgot about the NEF

THUL IO NEF

Must not post when drinking

 

[helvete1]

Re: Making my zealot/smiter - ISO answers for cresent moon r/w

I am unsure if -XX% resistance on weapons works the same way as it does for spells, like Conviction, Lower Resistance, and Cold Mastery.

For spells, -% resistance works as follows:

For monsters with less than 100% resistance, -XX% resistance works exactly as you would think. If something is 50% lightning resistant, it would be 15% resistant.

For monsters with over 100+% lightning resistance (i.e., lightning immune), the lowered resistance works at 1/5 the stated level. So if you had an enemy that was 107% or more resistant to lightning (and many lightning immunes are), you would not break the immunity.

So assuming it works with weapons the same way it works with spells, I would not count on the -35%LR to break any immunities on hell difficulty.

Conviction and LR works the way you describe (since they are indeed spells cast on monsters). However, -res from weapons AND cold mastery are concidered masteries, and cannot touch immune monsters, unless conviction and/or lower resist has already broken the immunity. Cold mastery, facets, etc. doesn't work at all on immune monsters (since patch 1.10 at least) and works at full power on anything non immune right down to the hard cap at -100%